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DrRecchi
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Currently being entertained by the asian lady mowing 8 inch grass with an electric mower
Joined: 06.29.2011

Apr 18 @ 9:56 AM ET
I think Galchenyuk ends up in Toronto. Yakupov to EDM, Forsberg to CBJ, Grigorenko to MTL, Murray to NYI, Galchenyuk to TOR.
- isles10289


MTL will pick Galchenyuk, thank you for trying.
Oil Tycoon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Parts unknown, AB
Joined: 09.08.2009

Apr 18 @ 9:57 AM ET
MTL will pick Galchenyuk, thank you for trying.
- DrRecchi

And the Leafs will draft Forsberg.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 18 @ 9:58 AM ET
One thing is for sure, someone drafting around 8th or 9th is going to end up getting a player that is ranked very high on someone's list. This year there seems to be a lot of different opinions. Some how Central has Dumba at 11th, but then on McKenzie's list he has him at 5. And Mckenzie uses Central scouts. Just leads me to believe that he can go just about anywhere. Then you have Galenchuk 1st on yours, but 14th ISS.

Going to be an interesting one this year.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:01 AM ET
I've never argued he wasn't the consensus number one. I've just replied that I don't think the dropoff is as monumental as they would like to think. There was speculation that he could be passed this year by a few players, most notably Grigorenko, so I doubt its as big a drop as they're suggesting (I.e. It would take the Habs Subban to trade up). ISS even had Grigorenko ranked first half the season.

I know he's number one. I just don't see the drop as big as they like to think it is.

- prock

Who exactly is running around saying this? Cloutier? What we've been told is that 9 of 10 scouts have Yakupov at 1. That he has potentially to be some sort of Bure/Ovi lite. I don't see many suggesting that this is the difference between Kane and Turris.
Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:02 AM ET
Who exactly is running around saying this? Cloutier? What we've been told is that 9 of 10 scouts have Yakupov at 1. That he has potentially to be some sort of Bure/Ovi lite. I don't see many suggesting that this is the difference between Kane and Turris.
- Lahey


Do remember that year that CSS had Turris at 1. Kane was 1 on all lists but theirs.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Apr 18 @ 10:02 AM ET
Lets see Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos,Hall, RNH, and Eberle
- Oil Tycoon

Tavares? Missing a big one
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:03 AM ET
Do remember that year that CSS had Turris at 1. Kane was 1 on all lists but theirs.
- Brian Huddle

So you prefer the ISS list then? I mean after yours that is
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 18 @ 10:09 AM ET
Argh I've wanted Galchenyuk for months now. Why is his ranking going up after not playing a whole season and only playing 4 playoff games... It's hard to judge that. I thought it was gonna be like this

Yakupov - CLB
Murray - EDM
Gigo - MTL
Forsberg-NYI
Galch - TOR

I might be wrong on the NYI

EDIT: Disregard this I forgot EDM won the lottery lol Changes everything.
Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:09 AM ET
So you prefer the ISS list then? I mean after yours that is
- Lahey


ISS is pretty good. Ross MacLean is a smart guy.

Then you have the other services like HockeyProspect.com, Future Considerations (whom I work for), McKeen's Hockey, who also do full indepth stuff, but on a "pay for it" basis.
Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:10 AM ET
Argh I've wanted Galchenyuk for months now. Why is his ranking going up after not playing a whole season and only playing 4 playoff games... It's hard to judge that. I thought it was gonna be like this

Yakupov - CLB
Murray - EDM
Gigo - MTL
Forsberg-NYI
Galch - TOR

I might be wrong on the NYI

- wolfos412


Basically, people wanted to see if the knee injury affected his skating, and it didn't. With that, he went back up to where he originally was in most rankings.
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 18 @ 10:13 AM ET
Basically, people wanted to see if the knee injury affected his skating, and it didn't. With that, he went back up to where he originally was in most rankings.
- Brian Huddle


So with that being said I think the draft will be

EDM - Yakupov
CLB - Galch
MTL- Grig
NYI - Murray
TOR - Forsberg?

Is that a fair assumption?
Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:17 AM ET
So with that being said I think the draft will be

EDM - Yakupov
CLB - Galch
MTL- Grig
NYI - Murray
TOR - Forsberg?

Is that a fair assumption?

- wolfos412


Likely yes.

Keep in mind, Dave Morrison (Leafs' head scout) has missed only ONE Kitchener Ranger home game over the past two months. He even skipped going to the U18's, and stayed in Ontario for the Plymouth/Kitchener series. (His European guys like Tommie Bergmann were at the U18's) Makes me wonder if he's as high on Faksa as I am.

For comparison, Montreal's Trevor Timmins was at every U18 game from day one.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:20 AM ET
ISS is pretty good. Ross MacLean is a smart guy.

Then you have the other services like HockeyProspect.com, Future Considerations (whom I work for), McKeen's Hockey, who also do full indepth stuff, but on a "pay for it" basis.

- Brian Huddle

I check out ISS as the main for me. Well your's too, then CSS and some of the guys on NHL.com with mocks.
DrRecchi
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Currently being entertained by the asian lady mowing 8 inch grass with an electric mower
Joined: 06.29.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:23 AM ET
Likely yes.

Keep in mind, Dave Morrison (Leafs' head scout) has missed only ONE Kitchener Ranger home game over the past two months. He even skipped going to the U18's, and stayed in Ontario for the Plymouth/Kitchener series. (His European guys like Tommie Bergmann were at the U18's) Makes me wonder if he's as high on Faksa as I am.

For comparison, Montreal's Trevor Timmins was at every U18 game from day one.

- Brian Huddle


You should do a "where is the scout" blog.
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 18 @ 10:23 AM ET
Likely yes.

Keep in mind, Dave Morrison (Leafs' head scout) has missed only ONE Kitchener Ranger home game over the past two months. He even skipped going to the U18's, and stayed in Ontario for the Plymouth/Kitchener series. (His European guys like Tommie Bergmann were at the U18's) Makes me wonder if he's as high on Faksa as I am.

For comparison, Montreal's Trevor Timmins was at every U18 game from day one.

- Brian Huddle




I don't dislike Faksa... It's just Forsberg a bit more.
Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:24 AM ET
You should do a "where is the scout" blog.
- DrRecchi


Hah! I just find that stuff interesting. Gives a little bit of insight, every so often.
DrRecchi
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Currently being entertained by the asian lady mowing 8 inch grass with an electric mower
Joined: 06.29.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:24 AM ET
Hah! I just find that stuff interesting. Gives a little bit of insight, every so often.
- Brian Huddle


I wasn't kidding.
Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:25 AM ET
I wasn't kidding.
- DrRecchi


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 18 @ 10:44 AM ET
Brian Huddle: 2012 NHL Draft Rankings: April 18 Top 30 + Thoughts
- Brian Huddle

"8 - Filip Forsberg, "

I think he goes top 5
Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:45 AM ET
"8 - Filip Forsberg, "

I think he goes top 5

- homiedclown


Likely, yea. Not trying to predict, but give my opinions

Was pretty down on Forsberg most of the year.
Lohaus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.04.2006

Apr 18 @ 10:49 AM ET
You putting Galchenyuk ahead of Yakupov reminded me of the year Tavares was drafted. People watch Tavares come into the league and dominate. Scouts crown in the first overall pick 2 years before hand, the clear cut first pick, and they continue to watch him.

Game in and game out they watch him, one game they notice something, the next they notice something else. Pretty soon, they start to wander and see a kid in Brampton playing who is faster. Hmm, maybe he's better? So they watch him with the same eye they watched Tavares 2 years before. Not the one that breaks down weaknesses, but the one that looks at positives.

So they watch him, and watch him and pretty sure they've convinced themselves that this can be a discussion. Never mind the fact that this kid is a second line center and always has been and neve rmind the fact that Tavares just keeps pumping in numbers.

Eventually the draft comes along and enough people are saying that you could legitimately say that Duchene is better than Tavares because one is being scrutinized constantly and the other is being pumped up to make a discussion. Without discussion, the draft is boring because we all know who is going first. End result... they were right, were always right.
End result?
Yakupov is the first pick. Discuss the rest.
DrRecchi
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Currently being entertained by the asian lady mowing 8 inch grass with an electric mower
Joined: 06.29.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:53 AM ET
You putting Galchenyuk ahead of Yakupov reminded me of the year Tavares was drafted. People watch Tavares come into the league and dominate. Scouts crown in the first overall pick 2 years before hand, the clear cut first pick, and they continue to watch him.

Game in and game out they watch him, one game they notice something, the next they notice something else. Pretty soon, they start to wander and see a kid in Brampton playing who is faster. Hmm, maybe he's better? So they watch him with the same eye they watched Tavares 2 years before. Not the one that breaks down weaknesses, but the one that looks at positives.

So they watch him, and watch him and pretty sure they've convinced themselves that this can be a discussion. Never mind the fact that this kid is a second line center and always has been and neve rmind the fact that Tavares just keeps pumping in numbers.

Eventually the draft comes along and enough people are saying that you could legitimately say that Duchene is better than Tavares because one is being scrutinized constantly and the other is being pumped up to make a discussion. Without discussion, the draft is boring because we all know who is going first. End result... they were right, were always right.
End result?
Yakupov is the first pick. Discuss the rest.

- Lohaus


Yakupov will go first, regardless.
Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:53 AM ET
You putting Galchenyuk ahead of Yakupov reminded me of the year Tavares was drafted. People watch Tavares come into the league and dominate. Scouts crown in the first overall pick 2 years before hand, the clear cut first pick, and they continue to watch him.

Game in and game out they watch him, one game they notice something, the next they notice something else. Pretty soon, they start to wander and see a kid in Brampton playing who is faster. Hmm, maybe he's better? So they watch him with the same eye they watched Tavares 2 years before. Not the one that breaks down weaknesses, but the one that looks at positives.

So they watch him, and watch him and pretty sure they've convinced themselves that this can be a discussion. Never mind the fact that this kid is a second line center and always has been and neve rmind the fact that Tavares just keeps pumping in numbers.

Eventually the draft comes along and enough people are saying that you could legitimately say that Duchene is better than Tavares because one is being scrutinized constantly and the other is being pumped up to make a discussion. Without discussion, the draft is boring because we all know who is going first. End result... they were right, were always right.
End result?
Yakupov is the first pick. Discuss the rest.

- Lohaus


Shush you. Hah. I'm positive Yakupov will go first, but I think I'm just thinking more long term and think Gally will have the better career. I worry about how many games Yakupov will play and how effective he'll be as his body breaks down.

I could be wrong. Maybe I shouldn't be concerned. Who knows.

dangerdale
Ottawa Senators
Location: London, ON
Joined: 07.19.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:56 AM ET
B-Hud, give me 5 players that will be available between 15-20 that could be absolute game-changers for a team that takes them.
dangerdale
Ottawa Senators
Location: London, ON
Joined: 07.19.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:56 AM ET
B-Hud, give me 5 players that will be available between 15-20 that could be absolute game-changers for a team that takes them.
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