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- canadianpenfan

Haha
But seriously, who dresses their avatar like that?

Prenup E5

kid out of wedlock.....more to come
- ryman1566

I got a text late last night from a source in Boston. He said kgr's wife to be might conceive this child with Tyler, kgr's cousin. But don't be surprised if Richie out of Florida and Bruce from Chicago get into the mix. They both have been looking for this type of girl for a long time. I expect something to go down tonight!

more to come e3

Mark Madden investigating this angle....
- akane13

the fact we are nit picking Martin's play is not a bad thing.....

As Gunner said, he has not been terrible, just his contract makes his play look bad. We have a great top 4 and solid bottom 2. A lot of teams would take on that 5M to have Martin in their line up.

I think some expectations on his offensive output have been too high and if you look at the plays where he gets beat clean to the outside, he is flat footed and reaching for the puck with his stick. A sign of a loss of confidence, Bylsma needs to get his confidence back before the playoffs begin, because unfortunately we dont win it if he is playing with no confidence, even with Sid back.

Z is in the same boat, but his confidence has not taken the bashing that Martin's has.
- walshy66

When the Penguins signed Martin, I think their expectations may have been too high. He was expected to play well as a point-man on the power play.

Part of me feels benching Martin could fracture team chemistry a bit. Martin is playing poorly, but the team is winning and that's what it's all about. It is telling that his ice time decreased so much yesterday, though.

I got a text late last night from a source in Boston. He said kgr's wife to be might conceive this child with Tyler, kgr's cousin. But don't be surprised if Richie out of Florida and Bruce from Chicago get into the mix. They both have been looking for this type of girl for a long time. I expect something to go down tonight!

more to come e3
- canadianpenfan

He'll check back after having lunch with the source later today

Scuderi and Gill did a great job against Ovechkin that series. A lot of his points were either 1. On the PP or 2. With other people on the ice. Byslma said its hard to say those two did well with the numbers Ovi put up, but the fact is they did

I got a text late last night from a source in Boston. He said kgr's wife to be might conceive this child with Tyler, kgr's cousin. But don't be surprised if Richie out of Florida and Bruce from Chicago get into the mix. They both have been looking for this type of girl for a long time. I expect something to go down tonight!

more to come e3
- canadianpenfan

dominoes

When the Penguins signed Martin, I think their expectations may have been too high. He was expected to play well as a point-man on the power play.

Part of me feels benching Martin could fracture team chemistry a bit. Martin is playing poorly, but the team is winning and that's what it's all about. It is telling that his ice time decreased so much yesterday, though.
- the-mitch-wilsons

And the D played better.

When the Penguins signed Martin, I think their expectations may have been too high. He was expected to play well as a point-man on the power play.

Part of me feels benching Martin could fracture team chemistry a bit. Martin is playing poorly, but the team is winning and that's what it's all about. It is telling that his ice time decreased so much yesterday, though.
- the-mitch-wilsons

John, please stay on topic.

I don't know, his performance in shutting us down in the Montreal series was legitimately great.
- Gunner Staal

Yeah I was more mesmerized by Halak's play I guess I didn't notice Gills.

This doesn't fit the "OV comes up small in the playoffs/big games" narrative, so many conveniently overlook this sort of stat.
- MadCap2008

He had a 1on1 with Gonchar and took a wrister about 8ft inside teh blueline....I dotn ever remember seeing someone able to get that hard of a shot off so quickly...MAF never saw it. That being said Scuderi sure he was good but he wasn't GREAT like everyone remembers....allowing your man to get 8 in a series is dont doign that well.

Then again there are Pens fans that remember Colby having Hossa like skill levels.

Scuderi and Gill did a great job against Ovechkin that series. A lot of his points were either 1. On the PP or 2. With other people on the ice. Byslma said its hard to say those two did well with the numbers Ovi put up, but the fact is they did
- Deadstar

It's funny how things can be perceived differently -- here's a stat I pulled from that Pens-Caps series :

Crosby finished the series with thirteen points—one fewer than Ovechkin's fourteen points, which was the highest single-series point total since the 1995 Stanley Cup playoffs

I think most Caps fans came away from that series thinking that the Caps defense against Crosby was atrocious for the entire series (everyone was calling for a "shutdown" d-man, and honestly still are), not that anyone contained Crosby in any way. Perhaps someone could go back and research and find that most of Ovechkin's points came against Orpik/Gonchar, etc, rather than Gill/Scuderi, but it's difficult to make the argument that anyone did a great job against a guy who put up that many points in a series (how many points would he have scored if they didn't do a great job ?).

BTW, as an aside, I think Gill is a solid pickup for a team seeking a big guy on the backend, but my memories of him standing out are more from the Habs run in 2010 against the Caps and Pens.

He had a 1on1 with Gonchar and took a wrister about 8ft inside teh blueline....I dotn ever remember seeing someone able to get that hard of a shot off so quickly...MAF never saw it. That being said Scuderi sure he was good but he wasn't GREAT like everyone remembers....allowing your man to get 8 in a series is dont doign that well.

Then again there are Pens fans that remember Colby having Hossa like skill levels.
- sammy87

I thought scuds and gill were very good in that series. And outside of that series how did they do the rest of the cup run? I don't remember anyone saying Armstrong was of Hossa's skill. Armstrong was a fan favorite that's why people didn't want to see him go.

I got a text late last night from a source in Boston. He said kgr's wife to be might conceive this child with Tyler, kgr's cousin. But don't be surprised if Richie out of Florida and Bruce from Chicago get into the mix. They both have been looking for this type of girl for a long time. I expect something to go down tonight!

more to come e3
- canadianpenfan

This seriously just happened. haha

It's funny how things can be perceived differently -- here's a stat I pulled from that Pens-Caps series :

Crosby finished the series with thirteen points—one fewer than Ovechkin's fourteen points, which was the highest single-series point total since the 1995 Stanley Cup playoffs

I think most Caps fans came away from that series thinking that the Caps defense against Crosby was atrocious for the entire series (everyone was calling for a "shutdown" d-man, and honestly still are), not that anyone contained Crosby in any way. Perhaps someone could go back and research and find that most of Ovechkin's points came against Orpik/Gonchar, etc, rather than Gill/Scuderi, but it's difficult to make the argument that anyone did a great job against a guy who put up that many points in a series (how many points would he have scored if they didn't do a great job ?).

BTW, as an aside, I think Gill is a solid pickup for a team seeking a big guy on the backend, but my memories of him standing out are more from the Habs run in 2010 against the Caps and Pens.
- MadCap2008

The only important stat is we won. And I do believe we swept carolina in the next round and may have even posted a shutout or 2. The Detroit series aside from game 4 or 5 I think were all low scoring so I don't think it's fair to judge one playoff performance from 1 series. Even if OV tortured them they played well in 3 others.

The only important stat is we won. And I do believe we swept carolina in the next round and may have even posted a shutout or 2. The Detroit series aside from game 4 or 5 I think were all low scoring so I don't think it's fair to judge one playoff performance from 1 series. Even if OV tortured them they played well in 3 others.
- dbell646

Not relative to what was being discussed, which is Gill and his value to a team which might be interested in making a deal for him for the stretch run.

i love how there are two totally different topics going on right now

geez i cant step out for a couple mins, with out things getting crazy...

* The Ducks trail Phoenix by nine points for the final playoff spot. The Coyotes (27-21-8) face the Canucks (34-15-6) tonight in Vancouver.

* A Coyote loss tonight plus a combination of Colorado/Calgary losses could have the Ducks as close as 5 points by the end of play Wednesday night. But first Anaheim has to take care of business in Minnesota and Pittsburgh. .
- Steve Palumbo

Yup.....They are getting close to making the playoffs! They will come out flying on Wednesday!!!

Not relative to what was being discussed, which is Gill and his value to a team which might be interested in making a deal for him for the stretch run.
- MadCap2008

That was the highest level OV has reached in terms of his play--at anytime. He was electric. He's a generational talent who, along with Crosby, elevated his game to a level that would have embarrassed any defensive corps in the league. OV scored on everyone that series...a couple on the PP (including a 5-3) and one into an empty net after the puck caromed out the corner as MAF was going to play it. Perhaps for us, the lasting impression isn't his offensive heroics for 6 games, it's that he and the team wilted on home ice in game 7 (much like the Pens did against Montreal the next year).

Gill was good, not great, but good--especially after Gonchar went down. He and Scuderi played big minutes.

The feeling here (it seems) is that Gill could come in now and simply improve the top 6. Paired with Z or Martin, they could probably smother some people.

I haven't seen too many games this yr to make an opinion of Martin. The only player I have an opinion on is TK and he terrible shot choices. But I seem to remember everyone hating Hal Gill and how soft and slow he was. Now everyone wants Scuderi back and talks about how he was our best shut down d man. I remember him going againse OV in the playoffs and he still had like 8 goals that series. Pittsburghs fan memories are short and cloudy.
- sammy87

Scud was good that series, OV was out of his mind that series, only reason it got to 7 games and he was the only Cap that showed up in game 7.

Scud was our best shutdown guy and when matched with Gill were aver good compliment to each other.

Scud priced himself out of the market for Shero with his play in the 09 playoffs... He went from 6 digits per, to 3m per I think. No way he fit into our cap calculations.

haha Thats the word I was trying to think of! Thanks walshy.
- kgrpitt

I have to add value sometimes with my ramblings...

I believe all fan bases have short memories. I agree, I don't know where this Hal Gill love fest is coming from.

Grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. We don't have those guys so we want them. Once we get them we will want some other new shiny object.
- kgrpitt

Dude with all this date talk I don't think talking about being replaced by shiny objects is a good idea right now.

Truth be told, it was the best wedding I have attended. Our whole Modern Warfare clan attended, and it was the first time we all met in person. Total sh!t show.
Needless to say, the bride was none too impressed with us. We introduced ourselves and she says "Oh, you are the xbox guys" then turns and walks away and pays us no attention for the rest of the night.
- Rawdog9755

As guests you don't want the bride paying you attention, more chance to play up and cause havoc!

Dude with all this date talk I don't think talking about being replaced by shiny objects is a good idea right now.
- walshy66

I debated putting that up. . . . I'm not surprised by any means that you were the one to say something about it however.

This doesn't fit the "OV comes up small in the playoffs/big games" narrative, so many conveniently overlook this sort of stat.
- MadCap2008

No it doesn't but OV was sensational against us that series, other worldly, however so was Sid and if OV's supporting cast had of turned up in game 7..... You don't need reminding Capper.