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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 14 @ 11:31 AM ET
The problem is Carter is not going to net them a decent return compared to what they gave up. They are taking a net loss on that one no matter what.
- Gunner Staal


definitely. the effort was there on that one, but that was trouble from the start. being from philadelphia, i cannot understand other people's infatuation with carter. i understand the numbers may appear there, but he is simply not a player you win with.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Feb 14 @ 11:31 AM ET
In other news I watched the Denver vs Minnesota game and didn't see Bennett on the ice??? Thought he was back?
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 14 @ 11:32 AM ET
In other news I watched the Denver vs Minnesota game and didn't see Bennett on the ice??? Thought he was back?
- dbell646


He is out, I checked www.collegehockeystats.net and he was not in the previous game either.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Feb 14 @ 11:33 AM ET
definitely. the effort was there on that one, but that was trouble from the start. being from philadelphia, i cannot understand other people's infatuation with carter. i understand the numbers may appear there, but he is simply not a player you win with.
- stayinthefnnet

He scored 50 goals in a season. Low cap hit for a young player who hit 50 but problem is the contract was for 10 years and he gets injured often and sucks. Now no one will take that contract on
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 14 @ 11:34 AM ET
Colombus is just a poorly run team. They've made the playoffs once in their existence and got swept. 11 or 12 years in and they're still a last place team and not alot to show for all their sucking. Johanssen looks like a good one but how is that all you end up with after losing so much? Brassard, Zherdev and Mason set them back big time. If I'm Nash you couldn't get me to the airport fast enough if a deal was made in principle to go anywhere, except Long Island.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Feb 14 @ 11:35 AM ET
He is out, I checked www.collegehockeystats.net and he was not in the previous game either.
- Gunner Staal

This kid has bad luck. I was hoping he would go crazy in Denver this year and be in WB next year.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 14 @ 11:36 AM ET
He scored 50 goals in a season. Low cap hit for a young player who hit 50 but problem is the contract was for 10 years and he gets injured often and sucks. Now no one will take that contract on
- dbell646


i think the highest he ever got was 46. although im sure he tried very hard to get those last 4 with utter disregard for everything else going on around him on the ice. he is fairly young, and yes the cap hit is low but the sheer length of that contract makes it a bad one. i do admit he was kind of hosed by the flyers, as at the time that deal was slightly discounted. i know this horse has been beaten to death, and i know numbers are what they are, but they simply did not reflect him as a player
ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Feb 14 @ 11:37 AM ET
How about Edmonton for Nash, you would think they have stock piled enough pieces to make that work. They need to make the playoffs soon with that talent
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 14 @ 11:39 AM ET
How about Edmonton for Nash, you would think they have stock piled enough pieces to make that work. They need to make the playoffs soon with that talent
- ryman1566


Nash can veto anything.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 14 @ 11:39 AM ET
He scored 50 goals in a season. Low cap hit for a young player who hit 50 but problem is the contract was for 10 years and he gets injured often and sucks. Now no one will take that contract on
- dbell646


similar to how goligoski could put up a few points in a game or two and still just have such a negative impact on the game for the penguins. thats really the best way i could put it... yeah he had a goal but he forced 9 shots to have it happen, and yeah he has the size to be a physical defender, but only using it when you feel like it is insulting to the players such as vitale who are half his size going 100 mliles per hour
ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Feb 14 @ 11:40 AM ET
Nash can veto anything.
- Gunner Staal



But would he? Play with Hall and company? certainly more to work/build with, than in C-bus
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 14 @ 11:40 AM ET
sorry for the rant on this by the way. the trade of those 2 was the cause of such drama this passed summer, and caused a great deal of bleating from the uninformed masses
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 14 @ 11:45 AM ET
But would he? Play with Hall and company? certainly more to work/build with, than in C-bus
- ryman1566


Well, the Oilers are gonna have to pony up to get him, who is going the other way?
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Feb 14 @ 11:47 AM ET
Well, the Oilers are gonna have to pony up to get him, who is going the other way?
- Gunner Staal

Hemsky sounds fair
ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Feb 14 @ 11:49 AM ET
Well, the Oilers are gonna have to pony up to get him, who is going the other way?
- Gunner Staal


Hemsky/Paajarvi/Smid and pick or prospect? Maybe Barker instead of Smid? Omark still with Edmonton?
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Feb 14 @ 11:51 AM ET
Hemsky/Paajarvi/Smid and pick or prospect? Maybe Barker instead of Smid? Omark still with Edmonton?
- ryman1566

New blog up and it's a doozy
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