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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 6:29 PM ET
July 1st
Flyers have all there picks 2012

- Scottie Upshall


No they don't they don't have their own 2nd or 3rd rounders

http://www.prosportstrans...tTrades/Future/Flyers.htm
Scottie Upshall
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Mike Richards snorted coke off
Joined: 07.30.2009

Jun 24 @ 6:30 PM ET
No they don't they don't have their own 2nd or 3rd rounders

http://www.prosportstrans...tTrades/Future/Flyers.htm

- ob18

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FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 24 @ 6:30 PM ET
If this is true. Carter has to be scathing right about now.

http://www.philly.com/phi...-agent-Holmgren-lied.html

- PLindbergh31

the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 24 @ 6:31 PM ET
If this is true. Carter has to be scathing right about now.

http://www.philly.com/phi...-agent-Holmgren-lied.html

- PLindbergh31


here's what i get from that:

CARTER: Are you going to trade me?
Homer: No. I'm not shopping you.
CARTER: So you are not going to trade me?
Homer: No. People are calling me about you though.

It probably was true when he talked to carter, but things change.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 6:32 PM ET
here's what i get from that:

CARTER: Are you shopping me?
Homer: No. I'm not shopping you.
CARTER: So you are not going to trade me?
Homer: No. People are calling me about you though.

It probably was true when he talked to carter, but things change.

- the deaninator


amazing what one phone call can do with a good enough offer.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 6:32 PM ET
If this is true. Carter has to be scathing right about now.

http://www.philly.com/phi...-agent-Holmgren-lied.html

- PLindbergh31

Carter has only himself to blame
he was wasn't to busy partying it up rather than coming to play with a serious attitude him and richie would still be here

rather both of them just screw around
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 24 @ 6:32 PM ET
He isn't just going to be handed a spot. I'd want him to have the mindset to come him and put his best foot forward.

I don't doubt he won't make it but I wouldn't also just say here don't worry about anything no matter what you are on the club.

- ob18


Precisely. He SHOULD make the team. But nothing is a guarantee. He is a kid. Barely older then me. Every player is unique as an individual.

Given his play, he sure as hell looks ready. But should he faulter, let him play in the AHL. It wont kill him. He'll learn and develop from it.

Is Landeskog NHL ready?
- Scottie Upshall


Yes
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 6:32 PM ET
Not only am I expecting him to make the team, I'm expecting minimum 40-45 points.
- PLindbergh31


I hope your right. How does Seguin and Hall compare to Schenn? Seguin had 11 and 11 for 22. Hall 22 and 20 for 42.

I would expect the normal struggles.
Scottie Upshall
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Mike Richards snorted coke off
Joined: 07.30.2009

Jun 24 @ 6:32 PM ET
Know I want Landeskog
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 6:33 PM ET
here's what i get from that:

CARTER: Are you going to trade me?
Homer: No. I'm not shopping you.
CARTER: So you are not going to trade me?
Homer: No. People are calling me about you though.

It probably was true when he talked to carter, but things change.

- the deaninator


From what I've read, this all happened pretty quickly. Although the rumors of that Columbus deal were out there for a while.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 6:33 PM ET
Know I want Landeskog
- Scottie Upshall


Said that in October, plenty of room on the wagon.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 24 @ 6:33 PM ET
Mike Richards... on NHLtv.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 24 @ 6:34 PM ET
Let's be honest.... I understand this is a business and the goal is to win and improve the team, but Holmgren did Carter dirty.

1. Carter signs a cap friendly deal most likely taking less money to stay in Philly
2. He trades him a year before his NTC kicks in
3. He allegedly lies to Carters agent
4. He allegdly lies to Carters face
5. He ships him to Columbus

Carter really got screwed if you look at it objectively.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 24 @ 6:34 PM ET
Said that in October, plenty of room on the wagon.
- ob18

I'll be smiling from end to end if they end up with either Gabe or Larsson.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 6:34 PM ET
Let's be honest.... I understand this is a business and the goal is to win and improve the team, but Holmgren did Carter dirty.

1. Carter signs a cap friendly deal most likely taking less money to stay in Philly
2. He trades him a year before his NTC kicks in
3. He allegedly lies to Carters agent
4. He allegdly lies to Carters face
5. He ships him to Columbus

Carter really got screwed if you look at it objectively.

- PLindbergh31


I would feel that way if I was Richards and Carter.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 6:34 PM ET
Mike Richards... on NHLtv.
- Yosimar89


Here is his interview on WMMR this morning.

http://www.wmmr.com/shows...aspx?BlogEntryID=10254390
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 6:35 PM ET
I'll be smiling from end to end if they end up with either Gabe or Larsson.
- Yosimar89



Well like Schenn he's been compared to Mike Richards
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 24 @ 6:36 PM ET
Carter has only himself to blame
he was wasn't to busy partying it up rather than coming to play with a serious attitude him and richie would still be here

rather both of them just screw around

- 2Real

This is Giroux's and JVR team now... Funny thing is a couple of yearss back i thought (wouldn't it be something if it went from Carts and Richie to Klode and JVR) and we've got it now.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 24 @ 6:37 PM ET
Let's be honest.... I understand this is a business and the goal is to win and improve the team, but Holmgren did Carter dirty.

1. Carter signs a cap friendly deal most likely taking less money to stay in Philly
2. He trades him a year before his NTC kicks in
3. He allegedly lies to Carters agent
4. He allegdly lies to Carters face
5. He ships him to Columbus

Carter really got screwed if you look at it objectively.

- PLindbergh31

True, but we have no idea what the actual language of the conversations homer had with carter and his agent. If he was saying things like, "absolutely not there's no way I trade a guy like you not even if it was for stamkos" then I would totally understand it.
If homer just said something non committal like "no we're not looking to trade you right now", then thats different.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 6:37 PM ET
Let's be honest.... I understand this is a business and the goal is to win and improve the team, but Holmgren did Carter dirty.

1. Carter signs a cap friendly deal most likely taking less money to stay in Philly
2. He trades him a year before his NTC kicks in
3. He allegedly lies to Carters agent
4. He allegdly lies to Carters face
5. He ships him to Columbus

Carter really got screwed if you look at it objectively.

- PLindbergh31

he got fired for not producing at work

he only has himself to blame

homer is not to blame at all
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 24 @ 6:38 PM ET
Well like Schenn he's been compared to Mike Richards
- ob18

So if they do end up with Landeskog, the Flyers would have to guys who've been compared to Richards?

We just can't get away from that cancer can we
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 24 @ 6:38 PM ET
I would feel that way if I was Richards and Carter.
- MJL


I think they understand it's a business, but those guys laid it all out there for this franchise on the ice. They played hurt, and played very well majority of the time.

I'm not going to buy into any of the off ice or locker room stuff, because I don't know what the deal is with that, and no one outside of the Flyers locker does either.

I'm not condemning the trades I have an open mind about how they can improve the team, that being said I'm not thrilled with the way these guys were treated. I think they deserved a little more respect from the front office for their service.

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 24 @ 6:39 PM ET
If this is true. Carter has to be scathing right about now.

http://www.philly.com/phi...-agent-Holmgren-lied.html

- PLindbergh31

This is a business. Business is based on lies and broken promises sometimes. Maybe if Carter didn't stroll into holmers office in sandals with booze on his breath. He would still be here
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 6:40 PM ET
This is a business. Business is based on lies and broken promises sometimes. Maybe if Carter didn't stroll into holmers office in sandals with booze on his breath. He would still be here
- Just5

exactly
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 6:40 PM ET
I would feel that way if I was Richards and Carter.
- MJL


To me, that is the worst part of this. Those guys were not treated that well in this whole thing.
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