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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Jun 24 @ 12:08 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Reaction to Dual Blockbuster Deals
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:12 AM ET
trade schenn
flyfan1212
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I am the god of tits and wine.
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:12 AM ET
trade schenn
- FlyerMike18

canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:16 AM ET
Nice blog Bill
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:16 AM ET
some serious crapolli must have been going on in that lockeroom
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:18 AM ET
Once again another beauty Bill. I do not think they're done at all, and I hope they trade ersteeg to Florida to get that 3rd overall pick.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:18 AM ET
First. CRAZINESS Flyers!
- noondog


FOHWTS
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:18 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Reaction to Dual Blockbuster Deals
- bmeltzer


Stunning day, seeing both Carter and Richards traded. I think that all factors were considered in making these deals, both on ice and off, and that both deals, in strictly hockey terms, were fair.

I do feel that short term, at least on paper, the Flyers aren't as good. However, guys like Schenn and Simmonds have reps as being hard to play against. With the number of guys trying to prove themselves the team is almost sure to be hard to play against, if not as talented overall.
Sniper7
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 01.24.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:19 AM ET
The Kings 2nd is for next years draft not this years.
Kinglove1
Los Angeles Kings
Location: still working and hiring in, CA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:20 AM ET
Simmonds might get 20 goals 15 average
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:21 AM ET
Stunning day, seeing both Carter and Richards traded. I think that all factors were considered in making these deals, both on ice and off, and that both deals, in strictly hockey terms, were fair.

I do feel that short term, at least on paper, the Flyers aren't as good. However, guys like Schenn and Simmonds have reps as being hard to play against. With the number of guys trying to prove themselves the team is almost sure to be hard to play against, if not as talented overall.

- Jsaquella


would you have said the bruins were as good at the start of the season? and with everyone thinking thomas was an albatross with this hips, age, and salary, not to mention he wasn't even the starter....and look at them now. lunch pail crew that played hard every night and never gave up on their system, and a goalie that clawed his way to a cup. we just don't know how it will all shake out.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:22 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Reaction to Dual Blockbuster Deals
- bmeltzer


right-handed defenseman? surely, you jest?
RedwingsAreKHL
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 12.14.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:22 AM ET
You guys are going to love Schenn, but more importantly, Simmonds. I was bummed when I found out the Kings traded Simmonds. He's an ultimate team player who ALWAYS comes to the aid of his teammates. He plays hard every shift, finishes his checks, gets into his opponents' face, solid skater, has good hands, and plays an honest game. I have no doubt that he will end up as one of the premiere true power forwards in the game. He will score 20+ goals next season along with 5-10 fighting majors.

Schenn plays with heart, grit, toughness, and excellent hands for a young dude. He'll even drop his gloves occasionally. I was hoping the Kings would dump some of their European prospects, but then I realized this is the Flyers we're talking about. You guys love freaking grit and toughness, as I do.

At the end of the day, the Flyers got the better of the trade, since I have no doubt both Simmonds and Schenn will be the heart and soul of the Flyers for many years to come

With that said, Richards does immediately give the Kings a lethal 1-2 punch down the middle behind Kopitar. I'm going to miss my man Simmonds. Honest, gritty, heart and soul player
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:24 AM ET
this thread is already f'ed up.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:24 AM ET
You guys are going to love Schenn, but more importantly, Simmonds. I was bummed when I found out the Kings traded Simmonds. He's an ultimate team player who ALWAYS comes to the aid of his teammates. He plays hard every shift, finishes his checks, gets into his opponents' face, solid skater, has good hands, and plays an honest game. I have no doubt that he will end up as one of the premiere true power forwards in the game. He will score 20+ goals next season along with 5-10 fighting majors.

Schenn plays with heart, grit, toughness, and excellent hands for a young dude. He'll even drop his gloves occasionally. I was hoping the Kings would dump some of their European prospects, but then I realized this is the Flyers we're talking about. You guys love freaking grit and toughness, as I do.

At the end of the day, the Flyers got the better of the trade, since I have no doubt both Simmonds and Schenn will be the heart and soul of the Flyers for many years to come

With that said, Richards does immediately give the Kings a lethal 1-2 punch down the middle behind Kopitar. I'm going to miss my man Simmonds. Honest, gritty, heart and soul player

- RedwingsAreKHL

If Richie can stay healthy, you'll love him.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:24 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Reaction to Dual Blockbuster Deals
- bmeltzer


I thought I read where the second round pick from LA was to come in 2012?

Mistaken?
LeachHextall27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moorestown, NJ
Joined: 06.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:24 AM ET
You guys are going to love Schenn, but more importantly, Simmonds. I was bummed when I found out the Kings traded Simmonds. He's an ultimate team player who ALWAYS comes to the aid of his teammates. He plays hard every shift, finishes his checks, gets into his opponents' face, solid skater, has good hands, and plays an honest game. I have no doubt that he will end up as one of the premiere true power forwards in the game. He will score 20+ goals next season along with 5-10 fighting majors.

Schenn plays with heart, grit, toughness, and excellent hands for a young dude. He'll even drop his gloves occasionally. I was hoping the Kings would dump some of their European prospects, but then I realized this is the Flyers we're talking about. You guys love freaking grit and toughness, as I do.

At the end of the day, the Flyers got the better of the trade, since I have no doubt both Simmonds and Schenn will be the heart and soul of the Flyers for many years to come

With that said, Richards does immediately give the Kings a lethal 1-2 punch down the middle behind Kopitar. I'm going to miss my man Simmonds. Honest, gritty, heart and soul player

- RedwingsAreKHL


You're the first non-Flyers fan on the internet who I've seen say the Kings didn't get the better end of the deal.

Obviously it's too early to fully judge, but I think both teams got what they wanted.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:24 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Reaction to Dual Blockbuster Deals
- bmeltzer

honestly might be the best blog i've read on this site.. and its basically a breaking news piece, being the same day and all. covers every possible angle of a truly crazy day. well done sir.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:24 AM ET
this thread is already f'ed up.
- hammarby31

I knows.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:24 AM ET
would you have said the bruins were as good at the start of the season? and with everyone thinking thomas was an albatross with this hips, age, and salary, not to mention he wasn't even the starter....and look at them now. lunch pail crew that played hard every night and never gave up on their system, and a goalie that clawed his way to a cup. we just don't know how it will all shake out.
- hammarby31


That's why I say on paper. I think that the Flyers will be tough to play against and that they will win a lot more games where they only manage one goal
RedwingsAreKHL
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 12.14.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:25 AM ET
Simmonds might get 20 goals 15 average
- Kinglove1


The Kings should sign him to an offer sheet
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:25 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Reaction to Dual Blockbuster Deals
- bmeltzer


CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Ville Leino ($3.500m)

James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($2.000m)

Kris Versteeg ($3.083m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.850m)

Darroll Powe ($0.900m)
/ Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Andreas Nodl ($1.000m)

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Matt Carle ($3.437m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / Sean O'Donnell ($1.300m)
Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)

GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.666m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,456,428; BONUSES: $3,815,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $843,572
LeachHextall27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moorestown, NJ
Joined: 06.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:25 AM ET
If Richie can stay healthy, you'll love him.
- bodiva88


Absolutely they will.

I'll miss Richie, but I'm excited about the talent we already added. And to think that we could add Dougie or Landeskog tomorrow has me salivating.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:26 AM ET
You guys are going to love Schenn, but more importantly, Simmonds. I was bummed when I found out the Kings traded Simmonds. He's an ultimate team player who ALWAYS comes to the aid of his teammates. He plays hard every shift, finishes his checks, gets into his opponents' face, solid skater, has good hands, and plays an honest game. I have no doubt that he will end up as one of the premiere true power forwards in the game. He will score 20+ goals next season along with 5-10 fighting majors.

Schenn plays with heart, grit, toughness, and excellent hands for a young dude. He'll even drop his gloves occasionally. I was hoping the Kings would dump some of their European prospects, but then I realized this is the Flyers we're talking about. You guys love freaking grit and toughness, as I do.

At the end of the day, the Flyers got the better of the trade, since I have no doubt both Simmonds and Schenn will be the heart and soul of the Flyers for many years to come

With that said, Richards does immediately give the Kings a lethal 1-2 punch down the middle behind Kopitar. I'm going to miss my man Simmonds. Honest, gritty, heart and soul player

- RedwingsAreKHL

I like you. Richards is a very good player when his mind is focused on hockey. He will be good for you, and i'm happy that he got traded there, because I really like the Kings!
LeachHextall27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moorestown, NJ
Joined: 06.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:26 AM ET
If Richie can stay healthy, you'll love him.
- bodiva88


Absolutely they will.

I'll miss Richie, but I'm excited about the talent that we've already added. And to think that we could add Dougie or Landeskog tomorrow has me salivating.

I'd really like to add Cole via FA too. He's the "character" guy this team could use. Imagine him on a line with Simmonds and Schenn.
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