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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:23 PM ET
No, because Larsson is the guy the Flyers would get out of it. Something else to keep in mind -- a hypothetic deal that would get Versteeg's money off the cap and also send the 8th pick elsewhere suddenly puts the Flyers in cap range to afford Brad Richards and also resign Leino while also moving up in the draft.
- bmeltzer



Why would you move Richie + Carter under the assumption that Giroux's ready to run with the limelight and Briere's got his game going and.... then... sign Brad Richards?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 24 @ 12:24 PM ET
I hear there's an opening in Megaton as a field researcher
- BulliesPhan87


That's great. I just relocated to Novac.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:24 PM ET
so you are saying the Flyers may get Landeskog/Larsson, Brad Richards and Ville Leino?

My mind has officially been blown.

- tjp2033





Homer will be walking by Vancouvers GM with a little smirk on his face tonight, "Youve got something that belongs to me"
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:24 PM ET
Well, that would be contingent on 1) moving out about another $3 M of salary AND 2) moving up into the top 3 (no lower than top 4) of the draft but if they do that, then yes, it's quite plausible.
- bmeltzer

shut the front door
tjp2033
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Crazy off-season brewing, NJ
Joined: 06.18.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:24 PM ET
Well, that would be contingent on 1) moving out about another $3 M of salary AND 2) moving up into the top 3 (no lower than top 4) of the draft but if they do that, then yes, it's quite plausible.
- bmeltzer


say they do all that and they move Versteeg, who do you think Richards would center?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:24 PM ET

- Flyskippy

heavens to murgatroid... is that you again spaghetti?!?!?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 24 @ 12:24 PM ET
Woah, just got real in here.
- Ferrarimn7


I wasn't sure if anyone would get that.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:25 PM ET
Why would you move Richie + Carter under the assumption that Giroux's ready to run with the limelight and Briere's got his game going and.... then... sign Brad Richards?
- Tomahawk




I think Giroux would still be in the limelight......Richards to me would just be a hired gun.............
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:25 PM ET
Bill, is there ANY potential to see Gagne back in O&B?
- jak521


Yes, especially if Leino isn't resigned (which still isn't a lock).

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 24 @ 12:26 PM ET
it's all up in the air. supposedly Colorado wants Huberdeau at #2 also.
- bradleyc4


My wife's HUT team has Huberdeau. After that and watching him in the Memorial Cup, I would not mind seeing him in orange and black.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:26 PM ET
Why would you move Richie + Carter under the assumption that Giroux's ready to run with the limelight and Briere's got his game going and.... then... sign Brad Richards?
- Tomahawk



we went from being stacked at center to me being already scared of having one injury to a center
i wouldn't mind having one more
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:27 PM ET
Why would you move Richie + Carter under the assumption that Giroux's ready to run with the limelight and Briere's got his game going and.... then... sign Brad Richards?
- Tomahawk

because you can.

By adding guys like JV, Schenn, and Simmonds, and having JvR and Giroux you dont have to worry about bigger contracts for a few years...


I am with you in skepticism. I dont see it happening, but again i wouldnt be shocked. Nothing, and i mean that 100% literally, will shock me at this point.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:27 PM ET
Why would you move Richie + Carter under the assumption that Giroux's ready to run with the limelight and Briere's got his game going and.... then... sign Brad Richards?
- Tomahawk


Because the current lineup -- no matter how you spin it -- isn't Cup caliber. Add Brad Richards into the mix and 1) there's much less immediate pressure on Schenn and 2) you replace a bigger chunk of the lost offense.

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 24 @ 12:27 PM ET
Impressive work
- aosplayo


Seconded. Thanks, Jak!
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:27 PM ET
we went from being stacked at center to me being already scared of having one injury to a center
i wouldn't mind having one more

- Don'tForgetTocchet


But not to completely overpay for Brad Richards. That's nonsense.

Plenty of #2 and #3 center types to look at it instead.
Ferrarimn7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 12.09.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:27 PM ET
I wasn't sure if anyone would get that.
- Flyskippy

YEah, a particularly brutal barb.

Right up my alley.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:28 PM ET
So they traded for one of the top if not the top forward prospect in Schenn


If they trade up they could get Larson, a top D prospect


And they can hold on to Bob, a good goalie prospect........I like it.......
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:28 PM ET
I think Giroux would still be in the limelight......Richards to me would just be a hired gun.............
- aosplayo



Brad Richards is going to sign a retirement contract. Don't think temporary is in the cards here.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 24 @ 12:28 PM ET
heavens to murgatroid... is that you again spaghetti?!?!?
- jak521


Neigh. I mean, nay.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:28 PM ET
No, because Larsson is the guy the Flyers would get out of it if Landeskog goes 2nd. Something else to keep in mind -- a hypothetical deal that would get Versteeg's money off the cap and also send the 8th pick elsewhere suddenly puts the Flyers in cap range to afford Brad Richards and also resign Leino while also moving up in the draft.
- bmeltzer


Could you possibly have imagined this scenario yesterday morning?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:29 PM ET
Yes, especially if Leino isn't resigned (which still isn't a lock).
- bmeltzer

I would almost rather see Gagne at say 2.5-3 mill then Leino at 4. What kind of contract do you think Gagne could get? I know its a tough question to answer... sorry lol
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:29 PM ET
Because the current lineup -- no matter how you spin it -- isn't Cup caliber. Add Brad Richards into the mix and 1) there's much less immediate pressure on Schenn and 2) you replace a bigger chunk of the lost offense.
- bmeltzer



as usual i agree with you wholeheartedly
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:29 PM ET
Carter doesnt have to worrry about scoring in the playoffs in Columbus
- Slammed81


Yeah but Richards has to worry about scoring with all the porn stars in LA.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:29 PM ET
well I think all of us here will be excited to see what goes down tonight. I am very excited about all of the trades and now I cant wait to see what we do tonight. I like it alot!
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:30 PM ET
But not to completely overpay for Brad Richards. That's nonsense.

Plenty of #2 and #3 center types to look at it instead.

- bradleyc4



i didn't say i want to overpay for him
but i'm not adverse to getting another center
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