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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:07 PM ET
Definitley nice to have that depth but is it worth it @ a position where only one guy can be in net at once???
- flyguy12



Why not? With all the RFA's signed and all the waivers/LTIR stuff squared away, they still have a ton of cap space. More than enough to re-sign Leino and carry Bob's bonuses this year until the bonus cushion is back next year.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:07 PM ET
In both cases, liver > heart.


- Flyskippy


I'm pretty sure both of mine are enlarged... case a beer a week and 3 lbs or ground beef will do that to you.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
Versteeg would help them now. FLA needs to add salary. Dale Tallon, FLA GM, brought versteeg to CHI when he was GM there, so he is familiar with him. Will that get the flyers the #3 pick? I dont know. But i bet Versteeg goes to FLA.
- BradTardforGM


I dont know that Versteeg is traded now that we have the cap to keep him. The only reason he was on the block before was because we had no space and needed to sign Bryz.

Either way, theres no way JUST Versteeg moves us up 5 spots into the top 3. Need another asset.

Tallon can just draft Landeskog and his salary will count on their cap.
thejet
Ottawa Senators
Location: Kawasaki, Kanagawa, Japan. Fr, MB
Joined: 07.02.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
Versteeg would help them now. FLA needs to add salary. Dale Tallon, FLA GM, brought versteeg to CHI when he was GM there, so he is familiar with him. Will that get the flyers the #3 pick? I dont know. But i bet Versteeg goes to FLA.
- BradTardforGM

Wouldnt be surprise if he did, but i would be if that package worked out. Keep in mind other teams want to trade up too including Ottawa who would deal the 6th. That being the case I have a feeling that draft picks will stay relatively put tomorrow.
BradTardforGM
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Its flippin switch time!, PA
Joined: 05.12.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
Carter could be reunited with Umberger (on the LW), no?
- Flyskippy


I thought Umberger was playing center for them. He could certainly move to wing.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
Schenn is actually bigger than Richards and Carter was playing the wing. We're technically bigger today down the middle than we were a week ago...
- Tomahawk


By 1 inch while giving up 2 pounds, per hockeydb.com. I'd call it a wash.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
In both cases, liver > heart.


- Flyskippy


There he is!
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 24 @ 12:09 PM ET
I thought Umberger was playing center for them. He could certainly move to wing.
- BradTardforGM


That is correct. I was just pointing out that they'd played on a line together before and Umberger was on the LW.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:09 PM ET


He's a good player, but he's worth nowhere near what he's going to command as the top-UFA-by-default. He's had a couple of solid seasons in Dallas, but before that, he was one of the biggest salary-cap albatrosses out there.

Giroux -> Briere -> Schenn is a pretty good mix at center, IMO.

- Tomahawk


Agreed.

With Betts and Giroux as the PK centermen, and Giroux and Briere as PP centermen.

Really kinda hoping they hang on to Versteeg. His versatility could be needed. If one of the top 3 centers go down, they don't have an adequate replacement (currently), and Versteeg could slide over temporarily.
Ferrarimn7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 12.09.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:09 PM ET
I dislocated my hip in 2008. I couldnt walk without crutches let alone play... i was still able to have a life. I was still able to go to parties and what not.

Carter has a ton of heart.

- jak521

Did you go to these parties when your contractually obligated team was playing in the playoffs? Probably Not. You were more than likely able to maintain the status quo of your life because you're not a pro athlete. He should have been taking in games and staying in the proper mindset.

He underperformed in the playoffs year after year after year, he coasted by on raw talent for too long, at what point will people realize that translates pretty directly to a lack of heart? How many times did you hear a story about 'How hard Carter's rehabbing' or 'Carter pressing to get back'? Once? Maybe?

I'm glad you recovered from your hip surgery well, but to draw a parrallel between the two is quite ridiculous, really. Guy was on the clock, and at McFaddens, and he wasn't tending bar.

He'll fit right in in Columbus.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:09 PM ET
What would Bieska cost in your opinions, just curious......and how bout Mike Ryder? both in the 4 range?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 24 @ 12:09 PM ET
There he is!
- funmaster18


These trades are killing my job hunting today. I have 47 tabs open.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 24 @ 12:10 PM ET
Did you go to these parties when your contractually obligated team was playing in the playoffs? Probably Not. You were more than likely able to maintain the status quo of your life because you're not a pro athlete. He should have been taking in games and staying in the proper mindset.

He underperformed in the playoffs year after year after year, he coasted by on raw talent for too long, at what point will people realize that translates pretty directly to a lack of heart? How many times did you hear a story about 'How hard Carter's rehabbing' or 'Carter pressing to get back'? Once? Maybe?

I'm glad you recovered from your hip surgery well, but to draw a parrallel between the two is quite ridiculous, really. Guy was on the clock, and at McFaddens, and he wasn't tending bar.

He'll fit right in in Columbus.

- Ferrarimn7


Not really. Theo Fleury's not allowed in that city anymore.
AdamBlakeDers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: let's keep that between me, an, PA
Joined: 05.07.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:10 PM ET
Wouldnt be surprise if he did, but i would be if that package worked out. Keep in mind other teams want to trade up too including Ottawa who would deal the 6th. That being the case I have a feeling that draft picks will stay relatively put tomorrow.
- thejet


the first round is tonight, bro
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:11 PM ET
These trades are killing my job hunting today. I have 47 tabs open.
- Flyskippy


I've been useless since yesterday afternoon
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 24 @ 12:11 PM ET
I'm pretty sure both of mine are enlarged... case a beer a week and 3 lbs or ground beef will do that to you.
- flyguy12


vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:12 PM ET
as per the Miami Herald, the panthers are looking at Huberdeau at the third pick, also rumored the panthers are dealing the third pick to another team for a signed player and a lower pick
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:12 PM ET
Flyers should be happy with Larsson. Just as good.
- BradTardforGM



Landeskog is kind of like Voracek in his draft year... the allure of him being able to step in right away probably overrated him a bit, not to mention that both are EU's that played junior hockey and are advertised as playing a more North American style.

Larsson should go at #2, but Colorado loves the idea of Landeskog after they gave up Stewart. If by some miracle, the Flyers actually move up to #3, Larsson would be a huge coup. By the time Timo's contract is up, Larsson would probably be already able to step up and replace his minutes.
thejet
Ottawa Senators
Location: Kawasaki, Kanagawa, Japan. Fr, MB
Joined: 07.02.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:12 PM ET
the first round is tonight, bro
- AdamBlakeDers

Sorry im in Japan.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:13 PM ET
Not really. Theo Fleury's not allowed in that city anymore.
- Flyskippy



Skip,

What is your take on the deals yesterday?

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 24 @ 12:13 PM ET
I've been useless since yesterday afternoon
- funmaster18


I have been mostly offline the last few days running errands, helping my wife (a teacher) put away her school materials, and playing with my son while doing the occasional resume email/online application. I received the Flyers emails on my phone at 11 last night (though they were received hours earlier). Crazy.
Ferrarimn7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 12.09.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:13 PM ET
Not really. Theo Fleury's not allowed in that city anymore.
- Flyskippy

Woah, just got real in here.
BradTardforGM
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Its flippin switch time!, PA
Joined: 05.12.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:13 PM ET
as per the Miami Herald, the panthers are looking at Huberdeau at the third pick, also rumored the panthers are dealing the third pick to another team for a signed player and a lower pick
- vejim


ya dont say
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:13 PM ET
the first round is tonight, bro
- AdamBlakeDers



ya the ones tomorrow will stay put... tonight might be crazy
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:13 PM ET
as per the Miami Herald, the panthers are looking at Huberdeau at the third pick, also rumored the panthers are dealing the third pick to another team for a signed player and a lower pick
- vejim


it's all up in the air. supposedly Colorado wants Huberdeau at #2 also.
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