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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 10:25 PM ET
btw, hearing hradek and button ? CLB for giving up what amts to 2 high 1sts for Carter made me feel better...but 40 goals is 40 goals. I guess it's up to courts to make this thing look better. it will take yrs to sort it all out, but I'm still concerned that we are built to win a cup now from the blue line back, but w/ the forwards, not so much.
- isaiah520

vorachek and breezy will make up some of the difference and then when couturier steps in you'll be like carter who? guy was a bum
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 24 @ 10:26 PM ET
He's done with Juniors... He played the Monarchs last year just 7 games and had 7 points.

It's Phantoms or Flyers, obviously hoping he earns the Flyers.

MUST...KEEEEEEEP...MIND... IN THE NOW... BUT, look at that goal at 00:27.



- Yosimar89


goal was nice i like the hit better around 35
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 10:26 PM ET
He's done with Juniors... He played the Monarchs last year just 7 games and had 7 points.

It's Phantoms or Flyers, obviously hoping he earns the Flyers.

MUST...KEEEEEEEP...MIND... IN THE NOW... BUT, look at that goal at 00:27.



- Yosimar89


It's either juniors or the flyers he can't go to the AHL till he is 20.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 24 @ 10:26 PM ET
Possibly. He could be a 13th guy and rotate in and out, as well.
- Jsaquella

That's a possibility for sure. I wouldn't mind that. Put Sestito in when we are facing a tougher, meaner team, put Tommy in there.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 24 @ 10:27 PM ET
I think Konopka is over-rated to an extent IMO.

But he is a heart and soul guy that this team could definitely use as a 12-13th forward, but thats all he is.

He is, imo, not better then a healthy Blair Betts.

- mochoson



It's debatable whether or not Konopka is even an NHL-caliber player. Would he crack the lineup on most playoff-bound clubs? I think not.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 24 @ 10:28 PM ET
It's debatable whether or not Konopka is even an NHL-caliber player. Would he crack the lineup on most playoff-bound clubs? I think not.
- Tomahawk

We don't need Konopka. Simmonds can fight, and so can Sestito.
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Jun 24 @ 10:28 PM ET
btw, hearing hradek and button ? CLB for giving up what amts to 2 high 1sts for Carter made me feel better...but 40 goals is 40 goals. I guess it's up to courts to make this thing look better. it will take yrs to sort it all out, but I'm still concerned that we are built to win a cup now from the blue line back, but w/ the forwards, not so much.
- isaiah520



Do you think Carter has the same kind of numbers playing in Columbus. Not with players' wives but on the ice.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 10:28 PM ET
Yeah, I looked at his age wrong, though he still had eligibility left in juniors.
- Jsaquella


let's ask this how is Couturier in shoot outs
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 10:28 PM ET
btw, hearing hradek and button ? CLB for giving up what amts to 2 high 1sts for Carter made me feel better...but 40 goals is 40 goals. I guess it's up to courts to make this thing look better. it will take yrs to sort it all out, but I'm still concerned that we are built to win a cup now from the blue line back, but w/ the forwards, not so much.
- isaiah520


They have the makings of two lines that should score. Whether Leino returns or not, you have Hartnell and Briere, then Giroux and JvR. Voracek might fit in there with G and JvR, or with Hartnell and Briere if they don't keep Ville.

The defensive side is a concern, although Schenn is considered a good two way player. They still have a bit of work to do.
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jun 24 @ 10:29 PM ET
Do you think Carter has the same kind of numbers playing in Columbus. Not with players' wives but on the ice.
- LJF

not with Ohio State sororities so close
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 24 @ 10:30 PM ET
Probably late, but heard on the radio that Carter met with Holmgren Monday or Tuesday to address the rumors and was assured he wouldn't be traded. There was more in a release from his agent but that was the main piece. Holmgren called him in to discuss it with him...........sucks for him I guess.....
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 24 @ 10:31 PM ET
why would the best "pure goalscorer" go 24th
- 2Real


Sleeper pick, but a stretch for sure to call him the best pure goal scorer.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 10:31 PM ET
Probably late, but heard on the radio that Carter met with Holmgren Monday or Tuesday to address the rumors and was assured he wouldn't be traded. There was more in a release from his agent but that was the main piece. Holmgren called him in to discuss it with him...........sucks for him I guess.....
- aosplayo


That's the rumor.
Number23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I get that a lot.
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jun 24 @ 10:31 PM ET
We don't need Konopka. Simmonds can fight, and so can Sestito.
- FLYERSROCK!


Another guy I'd look at as an upgrade in 4th line center is Scott Nichol. Better on draws than Konopka last season, and tough as hell to play against.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 24 @ 10:31 PM ET
It's either juniors or the flyers he can't go to the AHL till he is 20.
- ob18

Schenn or Couturier?

I was talking about Schenn...

*edit* chit, i thought schenn was 20, he's still a teen
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 24 @ 10:31 PM ET
Im tippin my hat to homer on a job well done
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 24 @ 10:32 PM ET
Do you think Carter has the same kind of numbers playing in Columbus. Not with players' wives but on the ice.
- LJF

Nash is a heck of a passer, so carts will get chances.
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 24 @ 10:32 PM ET
Probably late, but heard on the radio that Carter met with Holmgren Monday or Tuesday to address the rumors and was assured he wouldn't be traded. There was more in a release from his agent but that was the main piece. Holmgren called him in to discuss it with him...........sucks for him I guess.....
- aosplayo

Karma
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 24 @ 10:32 PM ET
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($2.000m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Brooks Laich ($4.000m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m)
Wayne Simmonds ($2.000m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Darroll Powe ($0.775m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Andreas Nodl ($0.900m) Tom Sestito ($0.600m)

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Matt Carle ($3.437m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)
Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)

GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.666m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,081,428; BONUSES: $3,815,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $218,572

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 10:32 PM ET
Schenn or Couturier?

I was talking about Schenn...

- Yosimar89


Schenn turns 20 soon he could go to the AHL. Couturier is only 18 and has junior eligibility left.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 24 @ 10:32 PM ET
Sleeper pick, but a stretch for sure to call him the best pure goal scorer.
- bmeltzer




I thought it was weird to see him compared to Thomas Vanek.......would've figured that type of talent would be a little higher.....
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 10:33 PM ET
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($2.000m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Brooks Laich ($4.000m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m)
Wayne Simmonds ($2.000m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Darroll Powe ($0.775m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Andreas Nodl ($0.900m) Tom Sestito ($0.600m)

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Matt Carle ($3.437m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)
Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)

GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.666m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,081,428; BONUSES: $3,815,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $218,572


- FLYERSROCK!


Can you give these a rest please.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 24 @ 10:33 PM ET
Im tippin my hat to homer on a job well done
- bigmookalookie





Here here AND we have a goalie
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 24 @ 10:34 PM ET
Can you give these a rest please.
- ob18

I haven't done one since yesterday! Im excited. Sue me.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 10:34 PM ET
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
CHI's Brian Campbell has agreed to waive his no trade to go to the Florida Panthers. Details to follow.
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