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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

May 9 @ 12:19 PM ET
Jeremy Laura: Nate Danielson and a few more mock drafts
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 9 @ 3:52 PM ET
Yzerman needs to find a way to make Berggren for Rossi happen.
czahaluk
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 10.02.2020

May 9 @ 4:37 PM ET
would not be upset by this
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

May 9 @ 8:11 PM ET
Yzerman needs to find a way to make Berggren for Rossi happen.
- Feds91Stammer


That would be a beauty. MN missing a 3rd rounder. How much would you attach as sweetener? Honest question. Love that drop
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 9 @ 8:58 PM ET
That would be a beauty. MN missing a 3rd rounder. How much would you attach as sweetener? Honest question. Love that drop
- Jeremy Laura

Maybe Berggren and 47OA for Rossi. Idk why they are willing to shop him.
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

May 9 @ 9:06 PM ET
Maybe Berggren and 47OA for Rossi. Idk why they are willing to shop him.
- Feds91Stammer


I think that’s a great package. Berggren’s stock is on the rise in the playoffs. I love the idea. It fills a need for sure. Well done.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

May 9 @ 9:59 PM ET
Maybe Berggren and 47OA for Rossi. Idk why they are willing to shop him.
- Feds91Stammer


Guerin doesn't prefer that type of player; small, not physical, underwhelming physical tools. Doubt Berggren is someone Guerin would prefer either. Rossi had a much improved season this year. Not a great one though. He was awful last season.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 9 @ 10:59 PM ET
Guerin is under pressure to get into contention in the next 1-2 years or he stands to lose Kaprizov. I think he may trade his 1st round pick this year. He should be going after someone like Necas. He’s not trading Rossi for another small forward.

HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

May 10 @ 12:47 AM ET
Guerin is under pressure to get into contention in the next 1-2 years or he stands to lose Kaprizov. I think he may trade his 1st round pick this year. He should be going after someone like Necas. He’s not trading Rossi for another small forward.
- Minnyhock


Bingo. Also, the trade value of a small, unproven winger is not that high. It's not Berggren + a 3rd. To get Rossi they probably ask for Edvinsson.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 10 @ 6:41 AM ET
Bingo. Also, the trade value of a small, unproven winger is not that high. It's not Berggren + a 3rd. To get Rossi they probably ask for Edvinsson.
- HockeyBuzzed

If Berggren is unproven I think that makes Rossi unproven as well.

Also 47OA is a 2nd not a 3rd. I’m sure the almighty Cooleus knows that though.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

May 10 @ 7:22 AM ET
If Berggren is unproven I think that makes Rossi unproven as well.

Also 47OA is a 2nd not a 3rd. I’m sure the almighty Cooleus knows that though.

- Feds91Stammer
I wanted Rossi in the draft, but Raymond was the better choice. I thought of Berggren and a pick for Rossi as well. Maybe Guerin wants a larger player though.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 10 @ 8:01 AM ET
If Berggren is unproven I think that makes Rossi unproven as well.

Also 47OA is a 2nd not a 3rd. I’m sure the almighty Cooleus knows that though.

- Feds91Stammer


Rossi is not unproven. He was the best 5x5 player on the Wild last year. His numbers last year were depressed because his line-mates were trash. Both sides have to like the trade. That’s a no go.

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 10 @ 9:03 AM ET
I wanted Rossi in the draft, but Raymond was the better choice. I thought of Berggren and a pick for Rossi as well. Maybe Guerin wants a larger player though.
- HenryHockey

How big is Holl?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 10 @ 9:06 AM ET
Rossi is not unproven. He was the best 5x5 player on the Wild last year. His numbers last year were depressed because his line-mates were trash. Both sides have to like the trade. That’s a no go.
- Minnyhock

Wasn’t suggesting the trade made sense for the Wild. Not going to pretend like I know what they’re looking to do.

The proven/unproven thing is more so this:

Last 2 seasons:

Berggren 79 games - 1.61 5v5 p60
Rossi 101 games - 1.51 5v5 p60

Not saying Berggren is better either.

And to be clear most of us like Berggren but he’s requested a trade because Yzerman (frank)ed up.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 10 @ 9:27 AM ET
Wasn’t suggesting the trade made sense for the Wild. Not going to pretend like I know what they’re looking to do.

The proven/unproven thing is more so this:

Last 2 seasons:

Berggren 79 games - 1.61 5v5 p60
Rossi 101 games - 1.51 5v5 p60

Not saying Berggren is better either.

And to be clear most of us like Berggren but he’s requested a trade because Yzerman (frank)ed up.

- Feds91Stammer


I’m not demeaning Berggren. He definitely has talent. A trade like that doesn’t move the needle for the Wild. Guerin doesn’t want to trade Rossi but he’s the asset that could get the team closer to competing.

Guerin’s job probably hinges on him being able to keep Kaprizov. He’s watching the teams still playing and he knows his team has to get younger, bigger and faster.

Guerin has screwed up too. He signed 4 almost 30 and beyond bottom 6 players to multi year contracts. He’s tied his hands in signing a big FA as they come out of cap hell.



Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 10 @ 10:03 AM ET
I’m not demeaning Berggren. He definitely has talent. A trade like that doesn’t move the needle for the Wild. Guerin doesn’t want to trade Rossi but he’s the asset that could get the team closer to competing.

Guerin’s job probably hinges on him being able to keep Kaprizov. He’s watching the teams still playing and he knows his team has to get younger, bigger and faster.

Guerin has screwed up too. He signed 4 almost 30 and beyond bottom 6 players to multi year contracts. He’s tied his hands in signing a big FA as they come out of cap hell.

- Minnyhock

I hear you. I like Rossi. Sounds like there’s a good chance the wings just wouldn’t be good trade partners with the wild.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

May 10 @ 12:41 PM ET
I’m not demeaning Berggren. He definitely has talent. A trade like that doesn’t move the needle for the Wild. Guerin doesn’t want to trade Rossi but he’s the asset that could get the team closer to competing.

Guerin’s job probably hinges on him being able to keep Kaprizov. He’s watching the teams still playing and he knows his team has to get younger, bigger and faster.

Guerin has screwed up too. He signed 4 almost 30 and beyond bottom 6 players to multi year contracts. He’s tied his hands in signing a big FA as they come out of cap hell.

- Minnyhock
Then trate Rossi in a package for Zegras!
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

May 10 @ 12:44 PM ET
NJ might trade #10 OA.....
#10 for Berggren and Wings 2nd or a class 2 prospect
A lot of good prospects around #10
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 10 @ 1:15 PM ET
NJ might trade #10 OA.....
#10 for Berggren and Wings 2nd or a class 2 prospect
A lot of good prospects around #10

- HenryHockey

That’s a bit ambitious
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 10 @ 1:16 PM ET
Then trate Rossi in a package for Zegras!

- HenryHockey

Hell let me do 15OA, Berggren, Buium/Wallinder, and Soderblom for Zegras.
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

May 10 @ 1:56 PM ET
Hell let me do 15OA, Berggren, Buium/Wallinder, and Soderblom for Zegras.
- Feds91Stammer


I kinda like that offer/ Is it ambitious? YES. BUT, we're getting a stud that not only moves the needle, but spike the gauge. You were SO correct when you said we had to do something to get after the BEST ceiling...even if it means moving a "big name" prospect.....I say pull the trigger........
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

May 10 @ 3:11 PM ET
I hear you. I like Rossi. Sounds like there’s a good chance the wings just wouldn’t be good trade partners with the wild.
- Feds91Stammer


He had some C-19 issues early on, but he's been a fairly steady player. Would like to see him in red......there were some folks during his draft that said he's a good fit for us, as I recall......Him or Zegras would be great adds. Both have decent defensive capabilities as well.....think that's a big thing for us; gotta have the ability to play both ways......
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 10 @ 3:33 PM ET
Then trate Rossi in a package for Zegras!

- HenryHockey


I don’t see Zegras as a fit with Hynes as coach. Evason had success spreading talent evenly over 3 lines where he could hide weak players. When that no longer worked then Hynes came in with his top heavy lineup. Zegras would have to play on the 2nd line with the pretend wingers that Rossi had. I’d rather make a package for Necas.

Rossi is on an upward trajectory. He did everything Guerin told him he’d have to do when he was bad 2 years ago. Rossi got much stronger, went to the net and battled along the boards. It has to be frustrating that the team wants to trade you when you did everything they asked. It is what it is.

HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

May 11 @ 3:57 AM ET

Raymond will wear a letter for Sweden.

Impressive considering that team will have veterans like Kempe, Eriksson Ek, Olofsson, and Dahlin.

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