Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Phantoms Avoid Elimination, Therien, Flyers Daily

They were 2 for 2 on the PP? Who is their coach? Bring him up!!

They were 2 for 2 on the PP? Who is their coach? Bring him up!!
- Phillywhiteout

rockhead coached from the pressbox - sharpy and johnny vermont were there as well

https://nypost.com/2024/0...mpment-move-into-shelter/

pure comedy.

Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Phantoms Avoid Elimination, Therien, Flyers Daily
- bmeltzer

You have to make moves at the draft. Simple as that. The Flyers have the 12th overall pick and whatever Florida lands on when all the smoke is clear. They have to do more. I know the easy answer is to get another first for this year or next year. Personally I like a move more so what Mike Richards alone brought. A very young roster player and a prospect that might be ready to make the leap the the NHL. Does this Travis Konency hold this type of value? Probably not but first round picks aren’t the end all. Get young. Bring in youth. [/img]

You have to make moves at the draft. Simple as that. The Flyers have the 12th overall pick and whatever Florida lands on when all the smoke is clear. They have to do more. I know the easy answer is to get another first for this year or next year. Personally I like a move more so what Mike Richards alone brought. A very young roster player and a prospect that might be ready to make the leap the the NHL. Does this Travis Konency hold this type of value? Probably not but first round picks aren’t the end all. Get young. Bring in youth.
- roenick97[/img]

Yup. They really need to make a major move somehow. 12 and a late 1st isn’t going to cut it. They really need to move TK and get some young centers in here and start concerning themselves with building around Michkov. Nothing against TK at all but this team badly needs centers with high upside right now.

Unless they magically can move up from 12 I don’t see think they’re getting that center in this draft class.

You have to make moves at the draft. Simple as that. The Flyers have the 12th overall pick and whatever Florida lands on when all the smoke is clear. They have to do more. I know the easy answer is to get another first for this year or next year. Personally I like a move more so what Mike Richards alone brought. A very young roster player and a prospect that might be ready to make the leap the the NHL. Does this Travis Konency hold this type of value? Probably not but first round picks aren’t the end all. Get young. Bring in youth.
- roenick97[/img]

There's a very good chance of getting one of Helenius, Catton, Eiserman or Yakemchuk at the 12th pick.

Konecny likely wouldn't bring back a comparable return to what Richards brought back from MA -- Schenn, Simmonds and the 2nd round pick traded before the 2012 deadline for Nick Grossmann --in part because he's a UFA at the end of next year while Richards had just signed a long-term deal. A comparable trade would also have to be with a team that sees itself in contender position that also has a top-end prospect, a rising young NHL roster player and a 2nd round pick it would part with.

Thanks for bringing up Bundys work with rehab and mental health.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/09/us-news/denver-migrants-sent-mayor-mike-johnston-list-of-13-demands-as-they-refused-to-clear-encampment-move-into-shelter/

pure comedy.
- hello it's me 2050

Why are you posting your MAGAt Facebook crap on a hockey forum? Are you so old you forgot which website you were logged into?

Could the Frost trade for Frost?

https://www.espn.com/nhl/...ncluding-frost-hive-venom

The options to choose from are Frost, Ice, Powder, Mountaineers, Freeze, Mammoth, Black Diamonds, Blast, Caribou, Blizzard, Swarm, Hive, Outlaws, Yeti, Squall, Fury, Glaciers, Canyons, Venom and HC, which stands for Hockey Club.

There's a very good chance of getting one of Helenius, Catton, Eiserman or Yakemchuk at the 12th pick.

Konecny likely wouldn't bring back a comparable return to what Richards brought back from MA -- Schenn, Simmonds and the 2nd round pick traded before the 2012 deadline for Nick Grossmann --in part because he's a UFA at the end of next year while Richards had just signed a long-term deal. A comparable trade would also have to be with a team that sees itself in contender position that also has a top-end prospect, a rising young NHL roster player and a 2nd round pick it would part with.
- bmeltzer

Bill, any idea the perception of Trevor Connelly. Bob McKenzie in his pre draft lottery rankings speaking with 10 scouts had Connelly in his top 15 rankings. Do you believe he gets picked in the 1st rd?

The Marner talk yesterday got me thinking. How about this hypothetical 3 team trade idea?

Toronto gets:
Chychrun
Konecny - 50% ret
Anton Forsberg
CLB 2nd (from PHI)

Ottawa gets:
Marner - 20% ret
Ristolainen - 50% ret
Brink
Laughton
ANA 2nd (from PHI)

Flyers get:
2024 OTT 1st (7th ovr)
2025 OTT 1st
2026 TOR 1st
Reaves (from Toronto)
Kampf (from Toronto)
Joseph (from Ottawa) all 3 players are salary dumps)

I checked cap friendly and all the salary would work and each team would even have some space left to sign players. Toronto would even be able to still keep guys like Bertuzzi and Domi etc if they wanted.

There's a very good chance of getting one of Helenius, Catton, Eiserman or Yakemchuk at the 12th pick.

Konecny likely wouldn't bring back a comparable return to what Richards brought back from MA -- Schenn, Simmonds and the 2nd round pick traded before the 2012 deadline for Nick Grossmann --in part because he's a UFA at the end of next year while Richards had just signed a long-term deal. A comparable trade would also have to be with a team that sees itself in contender position that also has a top-end prospect, a rising young NHL roster player and a 2nd round pick it would part with.
- bmeltzer

There is no reason TK couldn't return a 1st and prospect, they may not be high value ones, but I expect nothing less.

Now if the Flyers are bringing back a roster player with cap/term to make the deal work then those asset values better be good ones. I'm tired of seeing other GMs getting these deals done, but the Flyers always have excuses why they can't. A 1st and prospect/young roster player is very reasonable.

Not a big fan of either Helenius or Yakemchuk at #12, depending who were selected before....so that means the Flyers will probably take one of them or take someone lower in the draft who is a "riser".

Could the Frost trade for Frost?

https://www.espn.com/nhl/...ncluding-frost-hive-venom

The options to choose from are Frost, Ice, Powder, Mountaineers, Freeze, Mammoth, Black Diamonds, Blast, Caribou, Blizzard, Swarm, Hive, Outlaws, Yeti, Squall, Fury, Glaciers, Canyons, Venom and HC, which stands for Hockey Club.
- Feanor

Was really hoping for either the Utah Magic Undies or the Utah Bigamists.

Why are you posting your MAGAt Facebook crap on a hockey forum? Are you so old you forgot which website you were logged into?
- Feanor

the Donald in 2024.

Just curious how is that "MAGA facebook crap"? what does that article have to do with Trump?

There's a very good chance of getting one of Helenius, Catton, Eiserman or Yakemchuk at the 12th pick.

Konecny likely wouldn't bring back a comparable return to what Richards brought back from MA -- Schenn, Simmonds and the 2nd round pick traded before the 2012 deadline for Nick Grossmann --in part because he's a UFA at the end of next year while Richards had just signed a long-term deal. A comparable trade would also have to be with a team that sees itself in contender position that also has a top-end prospect, a rising young NHL roster player and a 2nd round pick it would part with.
- bmeltzer

Bill most know they will not trade TK. It would be stunning if they did on their own.

The Marner talk yesterday got me thinking. How about this hypothetical 3 team trade idea?

Toronto gets:
Chychrun
Konecny - 50% ret
Anton Forsberg
CLB 2nd (from PHI)

Ottawa gets:
Marner - 20% ret
Ristolainen - 50% ret
Brink
Laughton
ANA 2nd (from PHI)

Flyers get:
2024 OTT 1st (7th ovr)
2025 OTT 1st
2026 TOR 1st
Reaves (from Toronto)
Kampf (from Toronto)
Joseph (from Ottawa) all 3 players are salary dumps)

I checked cap friendly and all the salary would work and each team would even have some space left to sign players. Toronto would even be able to still keep guys like Bertuzzi and Domi etc if they wanted.
- Schmojo

Personally I like the concept, but I don't see Briere being that bold to make a deal like that. Also I feel like Ottawa gets the short end here, they are giving up a lot of value compared to what they are actually getting.

Was really hoping for either the Utah Magic Undies or the Utah Bigamists.
- BiggE

I wanted the Utah Honey Badgers.

The Marner talk yesterday got me thinking. How about this hypothetical 3 team trade idea?

Toronto gets:
Chychrun
Konecny - 50% ret
Anton Forsberg
CLB 2nd (from PHI)

Ottawa gets:
Marner - 20% ret
Ristolainen - 50% ret
Brink
Laughton
ANA 2nd (from PHI)

Flyers get:
2024 OTT 1st (7th ovr)
2025 OTT 1st
2026 TOR 1st
Reaves (from Toronto)
Kampf (from Toronto)
Joseph (from Ottawa) all 3 players are salary dumps)

I checked cap friendly and all the salary would work and each team would even have some space left to sign players. Toronto would even be able to still keep guys like Bertuzzi and Domi etc if they wanted.
- Schmojo

how is joseph a salary dump?

why to many moving pieces.

the Donald in 2024.

Just curious how is that "MAGA facebook crap"? what does that article have to do with Trump?
- hello it's me 2050

Everything is MAGA if it doesn't line up with the sheep script. It's how you can separate the weak minds.

They aren’t trading TK. Save your brain cells and yourselves some stress and know that this team is always going to get it wrong.

The team is built for the Winstons of the fan base. “He loved Big Brother.”

Keefe out in TOR- wonder if they run it back with another HC?

Everything is MAGA if it doesn't line up with the sheep script. It's how you can separate the weak minds.
- Glak18

cracks me up. how anyone can be ok with what those illegals are demanding is beyond me

Briere can’t take a piss without asking Tortorella. Not a drop unless he asks. He won’t make any bold moves unless it is directed by Tortorella.

So, who is on the coach’s list? Is it Frost? Farabee? Atkinson?

Briere will only work off of that list.

cracks me up. how anyone can be ok with what those illegals are demanding is beyond me
- hello it's me 2050

No, the more comical thing is how China...yes China, is trying to fight the TikTok ban by using the Constitution and the 1st amendment.