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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 9 @ 5:05 PM ET
I will go a step further and say whoever signs him will NEVER get a 50 goal / 90 point player.
- MBFlyerfan


If the Flyers sign him he'll probably get injured in his second game and never play again.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 9 @ 5:05 PM ET
I actually like Utah HC
- MBFlyerfan


I heard the name the Utah YETIs. Love it. Haha. Mascot would be best friends with gritty.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

May 9 @ 5:12 PM ET
The Skinner contract was bad because it was already known he was super inconsistent year to year, but with Reinhart I don't think the team is going to be getting a 50 goal / 90 point player year after year.
- Glak18


I think he will be more consistent, probably 40, as long as he plays with good players. What is he 28?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 9 @ 5:29 PM ET
Should throw his sorry ass in jail is what they should do! He is the one that insighted that whole thing on January 6th! All the dumbass brainwashed turds took the fall for him and doing time. Dude is the biggest fraud to ever walk the face of this earth and yet lemmings that can't think for themselves worship this clown! And no, I'm not a lefty! I'm registered Republican, but consider myself to be independent.
- Phillywhiteout


How I wish I could respond to that nonsense with content, but I won't. What I will say is that you have such a lack of self awareness and common sense that you post this immediately after making a post stating that someone else should take his political nonsense elsewhere and he's a loser for posting political content.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 9 @ 5:34 PM ET
Joseph as a salary dump comes from rumors last summer/fall about the Flyers trying to get Pinto and Ottawa wanting them to take Joseph as a salary dump. Whether those were true or not, who knows, but that’s where that thought came from.

Why so many moving pieces? Why not? All 3 teams get a big shake up which they all need. Toronto gets a top pair defenseman which they desperately need and they get TK which softens the loss of Marner offensively. Ottawa gets an elite forward in Marner. Imagine Tkachuk/Stutzle/Marner as a top line. They get Risto as their 4/5 defenseman, a young winger in Brink and a solid 3rd liner that can slot anywhere in the lineup in a pinch in Laughton. Plus he brings some leadership to help with their young roster. As for Philly, it really positions them to upgrade their prospect pool immediately and down the line. At the 7th pick, they get one of the top defenseman, than still have 12 where they can go anywhere with, like if Eiserman drops, the risk isn’t so bad because they already had the 7th. They’d also then have 3 picks in 2025, and 2 in 2026. Reeves they can move or dump in the AHL. Kampf and Joseph can fill out the roster from the loss of these other guys until some young players can come up. The idea is the Flyers would be much worse next season, therefore hopefully securing a top 5 pick to draft one of the top centers.

- Schmojo


I don't see any team delusionally thinking that Ristolainen is a top 4 defenseman any longer
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

May 9 @ 5:38 PM ET
I get it. I understand the knowing vs the unknown. And i am not saying I want to move farabee. But this team as currently constructed is not going anywhere in my opinion. My goal is to build a team for when Michkov comes over. Put pieces together so that they fit with his arrival. That is why I would not extend konecny. I would look to move Laughton.

But they need to get creative. Farabee I think has value. I think wings are easier to find then centers.

You might lose the value now but in the long run it could help you become a better team if that makes sense.

- J35Bacher


Yes a great example is NSH trading Martin Erat a consistent 50pt guy at the time to WSH for Filip Forsberg. Ended up a steal for NSH. You just gotta hope your scouts know what they’re doing and trust their evaluation. At the end of the day if they move up and get a guy who becomes a true #1D, there’s no way they lose that trade.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 9 @ 5:51 PM ET
Yes a great example is NSH trading Martin Erat a consistent 50pt guy at the time to WSH for Filip Forsberg. Ended up a steal for NSH. You just gotta hope your scouts know what they’re doing and trust their evaluation. At the end of the day if they move up and get a guy who becomes a true #1D, there’s no way they lose that trade.
- Schmojo


That trade was widely panned when it happened and is now considered one of the worst trades in league history.

If a team wants to trade us a Will Smith or Leonard for Farabee I don't think anybody here would object.

WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

May 9 @ 6:23 PM ET
That trade was widely panned when it happened and is now considered one of the worst trades in league history.

If a team wants to trade us a Will Smith or Leonard for Farabee I don't think anybody here would object.


- Tomahawk


Vegas traded away Suzuki before he got a chance to play with them
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

May 9 @ 6:46 PM ET
That trade was widely panned when it happened and is now considered one of the worst trades in league history.

If a team wants to trade us a Will Smith or Leonard for Farabee I don't think anybody here would object.


- Tomahawk


Pretty sure we agree here. Someone was saying they didn’t want to give up Farabee, a 50pt player, because he was a known commodity, plus a late first for a top 10 pick that you don’t know how they will pan out. If Utah or Ottawa wanted that trade you make that trade every day of the week. Especially if your scouts are telling you one of those top defensmen will be a #1.

On a side note, Erat and Farabee actually have a similar rate of production at this point of their careers.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

May 9 @ 6:48 PM ET
I don't see any team delusionally thinking that Ristolainen is a top 4 defenseman any longer
- MJL


There are always delusional management and owners. One team fires an idiot GM while another team hires an idiot. His size will always entice someone.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 9 @ 7:05 PM ET
On a side note, Erat and Farabee actually have a similar rate of production at this point of their careers.
- Schmojo


Of course the main difference is that Erat was 32 at the time of that trade and Joel is 24. I'm sure people imagine Joel may have untapped upside but then again he could also just be a career 40-50 pt guy like Erat was for most of his career.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 9 @ 7:10 PM ET
That trade was widely panned when it happened and is now considered one of the worst trades in league history.

If a team wants to trade us a Will Smith or Leonard for Farabee I don't think anybody here would object.


- Tomahawk



Until Chris Rock clocks Smith and his jaw never heals right. Take Leonard.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 9 @ 7:18 PM ET
Pretty sure we agree here. Someone was saying they didn’t want to give up Farabee, a 50pt player, because he was a known commodity, plus a late first for a top 10 pick that you don’t know how they will pan out. If Utah or Ottawa wanted that trade you make that trade every day of the week. Especially if your scouts are telling you one of those top defensmen will be a #1.

On a side note, Erat and Farabee actually have a similar rate of production at this point of their careers.

- Schmojo


The Flyers need elite players or they're going nowhere. If you think you can draft a player with a pick obtained by trading Farabee, that you think has elite potential. It has to be made.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 9 @ 7:19 PM ET
There are always delusional management and owners. One team fires an idiot GM while another team hires an idiot. His size will always entice someone.
- Schmojo


I here that but I think the ship has sailed on anyone still buying in on it finally clicking in for Ristolainen. He's a buyout waiting to happen.
GPerogie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hightstown, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

May 9 @ 7:36 PM ET
Politics stuff used to be taboo in polite company until everything has completely gone off the rails.
If you don’t think this country is in real trouble I don’t honestly know what you are looking at.
Would Trump magically make things better? Of course not. Have you asked yourself why the federal government is going after him so hard? With all the investigations and shenanigans all they have is invented narratives and weak court cases.
The truth is Trump is an outsider and insiders stand to lose real money if he is relected.
It’s not just a Trump thing. The DNC screwed Bernie Sanders over and are trying to get rid of RFK.
I don’t even know what form of government the USA is anymore. It’s run by public private partnerships and NGO’s .
While it’s great to just talk hockey on a hockey board we are all getting bent over the fence and getting it from behind raw style.
I can talk hockey but also wonder what the new LLC reporting rules are the the regulatory board for the fed are when my CPA can’t explain them.
A bunch of gobbledygook to prevent money laundering. Kind of the same thing the Biden’s did.
This is a in general post and not a personal reply just saying.

- bird_dog_pa


This. 👍
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

May 9 @ 7:39 PM ET
Maybe Bumper Bonk will be the hero the Flyers PP needs. I think by himself he has scored more PP goals then the Flyers team did this year. I could be wrong.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

May 9 @ 7:51 PM ET
I here that but I think the ship has sailed on anyone still buying in on it finally clicking in for Ristolainen. He's a buyout waiting to happen.
- MJL


i think you're a buyout waiting to happen.

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TEAGLE
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 9 @ 8:37 PM ET
Should throw his sorry ass in jail is what they should do! He is the one that insighted that whole thing on January 6th! All the dumbass brainwashed turds took the fall for him and doing time. Dude is the biggest fraud to ever walk the face of this earth and yet lemmings that can't think for themselves worship this clown! And no, I'm not a lefty! I'm registered Republican, but consider myself to be independent.
- Phillywhiteout

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You are the stupidest person on this board. The country is being destroyed by the Democrats and you walk around with your thumb up your azz.
Loser [/img]
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

May 9 @ 9:20 PM ET
I don't see any team delusionally thinking that Ristolainen is a top 4 defenseman any longer
- MJL


wait till chuckles gets re-hired
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

May 9 @ 9:20 PM ET
I wanted the Utah Honey Badgers.
- Glak18


Don’t give a $41T
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

May 9 @ 9:31 PM ET
Brindy will go to Toronto and win up cup.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 9 @ 9:33 PM ET
wait till chuckles gets re-hired
- corduroy


Nope. Cliff has already called in all his favors.

Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

May 9 @ 10:24 PM ET
How I wish I could respond to that nonsense with content, but I won't. What I will say is that you have such a lack of self awareness and common sense that you post this immediately after making a post stating that someone else should take his political nonsense elsewhere and he's a loser for posting political content.


- MJL
Sometimes you are just a total dumbass!! Please stop with your dumbass rhetoric about self awareness and common sense cause I blow you away in both by a long shot! I don't give a $hit what you think about politically or anyone else on here for that matter, but that bozo keeps bringing his Trump (jerkoff) $hit on here and I finally decided to respond. We all are entitled to our political beliefs, but they shouldn't be made here. I only responded in protest to his lack of self awareness. So basically phuck off! Thanks!
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

May 9 @ 10:29 PM ET
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You are the stupidest person on this board. The country is being destroyed by the Democrats and you walk around with your thumb up your azz.
Loser

- TEAGLE[/img]
I'm not a Democrat you stupid $hit! I'm a registered Republican, but I consider myself to be independent cause that's the only thing that's gonna save this country. You don't know me and don't pretend to you flamin a$$hole! I'm not even politically driven, but go ahead and judge you brainwashed dumbass!! Trump is ruining your party and you're too phuckin stupid to know it. I know lots of Republicans and they want nothing to do with your buddy cause they actually have brains. I actually feel sorry for brainwashed lemmings such as yourself. Oh wait, no I don't!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 9 @ 10:33 PM ET
Rod really getting these guys through again 😂
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