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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 24 @ 6:59 PM ET
A groin pull and a broken hand with a pin in it is what I heard.
- Baxter27



that would explain a lot.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 24 @ 7:02 PM ET
A groin pull and a broken hand with a pin in it is what I heard.
- Baxter27

when the heck did he break his hand?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 24 @ 7:02 PM ET
that would explain a lot.
- opeth_pa

certainly does

shame too. They're a different team if he's on, especially against the Pens
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 24 @ 7:05 PM ET
that would explain a lot.
- opeth_pa

Yup.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 24 @ 7:17 PM ET
Should have moved Simmonds last summer or even earlier
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 24 @ 7:17 PM ET
that would explain a lot.
- opeth_pa


That his trade value should go up next year?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 24 @ 7:19 PM ET
If the Flyers bring back Filppula, I may lose my mind. He was abysmal. Glad Hexy acquired him and helped Yzerman out of cap hell though. I look forward to the Lightning returning the favor soon.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Apr 24 @ 7:19 PM ET
when the heck did he break his hand?
- Giroux_Is_God


In the fight against De Angelo.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 24 @ 7:34 PM ET
I expect Simmonds to be moved and his health really don't have a lot to do with it.

Hextall has to know that he isn't re-signing him. And Imo he also has a pretty good idea that this team won't likely be in sell mode at the next deadline. Now is the time to get something of value for him. Or you hang on to him next year when you're still at the very least a goalie away from seriously competing.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 24 @ 7:36 PM ET
If the Flyers bring back Filppula, I may lose my mind. He was abysmal. Glad Hexy acquired him and helped Yzerman out of cap hell though. I look forward to the Lightning returning the favor soon.
- PhillySportsGuy

When do we get Brayden Point
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 24 @ 7:38 PM ET
When do we get Brayden Point
- Giroux_Is_God


WhEn We TrAdE kNoWn BuSt, NoLaN PaTrIcIa
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 24 @ 7:50 PM ET
WhEn We TrAdE kNoWn BuSt, NoLaN PaTrIcIa
- PhillySportsGuy

InjURY pROnE?!!!!?!!!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 24 @ 7:50 PM ET
Should have moved Simmonds last summer or even earlier
- PhillySportsGuy


Last summer was the time to do it.

Now I hold onto him for next year, don’t resign him until we get another full year of evaluation on our big forward prospects. We have quite a few
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 24 @ 7:52 PM ET
If the Flyers bring back Filppula, I may lose my mind. He was abysmal. Glad Hexy acquired him and helped Yzerman out of cap hell though. I look forward to the Lightning returning the favor soon.
- PhillySportsGuy


He wasn’t great but there were just no other options to throw at 3C this year if they insisted on giroux on the wing
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 24 @ 8:00 PM ET
He wasn’t great but there were just no other options to throw at 3C this year if they insisted on giroux on the wing
- Just5

Pretty much. 3C needs to be addressed this offseason as does starting goalie. Guys like Couturier and Provorov deserve better than what we had at those spots this season.

I agree with Hextall’s overall philosophy of draft and develop but if you don’t want to risk your good players getting frustrated you need to also make some other moves.

This team isn’t that far from being one that can win a couple rounds, provided a couple of smart moves can be made. The GM needs to make them.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 8:24 PM ET
agree right now manning is better than Gudas, dont want either, while Manning is a good 6-7, Hak will use him as a 4-5
- wcorvette


Hakstol won't if the young defenseman play to a higher level.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 24 @ 8:28 PM ET
A groin pull and a broken hand with a pin in it is what I heard.
- Baxter27


Also 4 hours of dental surgery and then extractions after teeth died.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Apr 24 @ 8:29 PM ET
Pretty much. 3C needs to be addressed this offseason as does starting goalie. Guys like Couturier and Provorov deserve better than what we had at those spots this season.

I agree with Hextall’s overall philosophy of draft and develop but if you don’t want to risk your good players getting frustrated you need to also make some other moves.

This team isn’t that far from being one that can win a couple rounds, provided a couple of smart moves can be made. The GM needs to make them.

- BiggE

Pretty much exactly how I feel. However, I don't see Hextall doing anything with the goaltending. I don't see how he doesn't address 3C.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 8:29 PM ET
If the Flyers bring back Filppula, I may lose my mind. He was abysmal. Glad Hexy acquired him and helped Yzerman out of cap hell though. I look forward to the Lightning returning the favor soon.
- PhillySportsGuy


Solid acquistion by Hextall. Filppula filled and role and helped the team greatly. Unfortunately he declined as a player faster than hoped. He took on a lot of heavy lifting for the team and helped them bring along Patrick slower. Without Filppula and the effect it had on the team, I doubt the Flyers make the playoffs this season.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Apr 24 @ 8:30 PM ET
Also 4 hours of dental surgery and then extractions after teeth died.
- bmeltzer

So you're confirming the broken hand and groin pull?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 24 @ 8:32 PM ET
For ufas I like Riley Nash, folin, and a 4th liner like fehr or chimera
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 8:33 PM ET
I expect Simmonds to be moved and his health really don't have a lot to do with it.

Hextall has to know that he isn't re-signing him. And Imo he also has a pretty good idea that this team won't likely be in sell mode at the next deadline. Now is the time to get something of value for him. Or you hang on to him next year when you're still at the very least a goalie away from seriously competing.

- hereticpride


Hard to understand the thought that Hextall has to know he isn't re-signing him. What is that based on?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 24 @ 8:42 PM ET
Pretty much. 3C needs to be addressed this offseason as does starting goalie. Guys like Couturier and Provorov deserve better than what we had at those spots this season.

I agree with Hextall’s overall philosophy of draft and develop but if you don’t want to risk your good players getting frustrated you need to also make some other moves.

This team isn’t that far from being one that can win a couple rounds, provided a couple of smart moves can be made. The GM needs to make them.

- BiggE


3C has to be addressed. It’s going to be a multi year deal. There are no in house options
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Apr 24 @ 8:58 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Musings: Clean Out Day, Phantoms, and More
- bmeltzer

Great blog Bill. Thanks for your quality work.

I think Hexy is doing it right. Building through the draft and clearing up cap space is where we are now. The fact that we are able to compete in the playoffs is a bonus. As the young core matures and our older core still can play important roles then you start to acquire talent through the market and trading some assets.

Us fans are just to impaitiant and this train of thought can strap a team down.

I think management has made many good calls so far (and a few bad ones I can admit) but I can see the build coming. Hexy will pull the trigger when we get in shot range of a cup run.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Apr 24 @ 9:04 PM ET
Solid acquistion by Hextall. Filppula filled and role and helped the team greatly. Unfortunately he declined as a player faster than hoped. He took on a lot of heavy lifting for the team and helped them bring along Patrick slower. Without Filppula and the effect it had on the team, I doubt the Flyers make the playoffs this season.
- MJL


Agreed. Flip played an important role at the time. He was expensive but we are looking in better cap space moving forward. Hey may not have a role moving forward at his price. He will stay in the NHL but will take a salary hit for sure.
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