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cousjoe
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: North Wales, PA
Joined: 10.07.2015

Apr 6 @ 11:02 AM ET
I was at the game last night & made a point to watch the Gudas/Manning duo. It was god awful. Manning looks lost, head constantly on a swivel. Gudas let guys skate wide on him, control the puck & never won a one on one battle for puck. Gudas tried 2 of those open ice lower the hip check which I feel is a dirty/cheap move. Hagg has to replace one of theses bozos.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 6 @ 11:04 AM ET
I was at the game last night & made a point to watch the Gudas/Manning duo. It was god awful. Manning looks lost, head constantly on a swivel. Gudas let guys skate wide on him, control the puck & never won a one on one battle for puck. Gudas tried 2 of those open ice lower the hip check which I feel is a dirty/cheap move. Hagg has to replace one of theses bozos.
- cousjoe


veteran mystique and aura.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 6 @ 11:06 AM ET
Konecny has been the most explosive player on the team. With him, I can live with the mistakes. I fully understand why Haks limits his ice time after mistakes, but I don’t like it. As a fan I want to see him play more minutes. The coach has to win now.

I really hope that he can develop the D side of his game . With his speed he would be killer playing on the PK. Their short handed goals would double. That is hopefully in the future.
Also developing his two way game is the key to him getting the ice time.

I think Patrick is already there with reliable 2 way play and I hope if/when they make the playoffs Haks leans on Patrick to play the key minutes over Filp. NP wasn’t ready for it to start the year, but I believe he is now.
cousjoe
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: North Wales, PA
Joined: 10.07.2015

Apr 6 @ 11:07 AM ET
veteran mystique and aura.
- PLindbergh31

Veteran mistake not mystique
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 6 @ 11:08 AM ET
He must have lost the ability to even be a third pairing dman after being used on the second pairing for 70 games.
- Feanor

I hope Hak sees this and gets Hägg back in, starting Saturday. No excuse not to if the guy isn’t injured.

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 6 @ 11:13 AM ET
I don't really have a cause.


- JFlyers00




This leads to anything you say being taken at a discount.


- JFlyers00


Your primary cause is having your thoughts taken at full value. Personal attacks do not help this cause.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 6 @ 11:14 AM ET
I was at the game last night & made a point to watch the Gudas/Manning duo. It was god awful. Manning looks lost, head constantly on a swivel. Gudas let guys skate wide on him, control the puck & never won a one on one battle for puck. Gudas tried 2 of those open ice lower the hip check which I feel is a dirty/cheap move. Hagg has to replace one of theses bozos.
- cousjoe



Manning hasn't been bad. He's been reasonable 6/7 defender. He is an easy scapegoat. I think Gudas has been the most disappointing of the defenders. I would replace him with Hagg as I think Hagg can bring about the same in physicality but has a more skill with the puck.

Just my opinion
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 6 @ 11:14 AM ET
Read deserves some props, since coming up he has been solid, can't score to save his life but an improvement over Leir and some of the other fringe players. Read did a nice job with Coots on the PK and at the end last night in the neutral zone.
- wcorvette


absolutely. I thought he was cooked...done. But he is providing a legitimate 4th line contribution
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 6 @ 11:16 AM ET
I was at the game last night & made a point to watch the Gudas/Manning duo. It was god awful. Manning looks lost, head constantly on a swivel. Gudas let guys skate wide on him, control the puck & never won a one on one battle for puck. Gudas tried 2 of those open ice lower the hip check which I feel is a dirty/cheap move. Hagg has to replace one of theses bozos.
- cousjoe


They are atrocious...and Hagg should get in over one of them. I love when Gudas ices the puck when hes clearly not even being pressured
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 6 @ 11:16 AM ET
Giroux credited with an assist on Raffl goal. Now at 99 points. What a season.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 6 @ 11:18 AM ET
Manning hasn't been bad. He's been reasonable 6/7 defender. He is an easy scapegoat. I think Gudas has been the most disappointing of the defenders. I would replace him with Hagg as I think Hagg can bring about the same in physicality but has a more skill with the puck.

Just my opinion

- J35Bacher


I agree with you, I believe Gudas gets lots of leeway because he is a RH dman. He s Provy partner on PK 1 and end of game also. This has remained consistent throughout the year. I wonder if they try to sign a RH dman in the off-season to move on from Gudas and not put pressure on Myers to be ready for the pros out of training camp.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Apr 6 @ 11:19 AM ET
yes?

I thought the game was pretty clearly won by a few of the guys doing their best Greg Jennings impression and putting the team on their back

- YuenglingJagr

Are you referencing my favorite YouTube video
Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Apr 6 @ 11:19 AM ET
absolutely. I thought he was cooked...done. But he is providing a legitimate 4th line contribution
- Just5

He is and I am happy but feel sorry for him that he can't buy a goal, he has had some serious chances to score too!
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Apr 6 @ 11:19 AM ET
Your primary cause is having your thoughts taken at full value. Personal attacks do not help this cause.
- Scoob


I see. Thanks.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Apr 6 @ 11:21 AM ET
Giroux credited with an assist on Raffl goal. Now at 99 points. What a season.
- PLindbergh31


It clearly touched justin williams stick
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 6 @ 11:21 AM ET
I agree with you, I believe Gudas gets lots of leeway because he is a RH dman. He s Provy partner on PK 1 and end of game also. This has remained consistent throughout the year. I wonder if they try to sign a RH dman in the off-season to move on from Gudas and not put pressure on Myers to be ready for the pros out of training camp.
- ravishingone



I don't know.

I wonder about a guy like Reece Wilcox in Lehigh. i have watched some games and he is a pretty solid defender. not going to put up points but a solid stay at home type. He isn't a mean nasty guy like Morin but is 6'3 and skates pretty well. Also a right hand shot
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 6 @ 11:21 AM ET
It clearly touched justin williams stick
- Streit2ThePoint

Williams gets an assist?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 6 @ 11:22 AM ET
I see. Thanks.
- JFlyers00


You're welcome.
I hope you have a nice day.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 6 @ 11:22 AM ET
absolutely. I thought he was cooked...done. But he is providing a legitimate 4th line contribution
- Just5

I was the only one who believed
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 6 @ 11:23 AM ET
It clearly touched justin williams stick
- Streit2ThePoint


I think possession is/was the issue.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 6 @ 11:23 AM ET
Are you referencing my favorite YouTube video
- TobyFlenderson

I'm not not referencing it
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 6 @ 11:26 AM ET
You're welcome.
I hope you have a nice day.

- Scoob



can't we all just get along
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 11:30 AM ET
Konecny has been the most explosive player on the team. With him, I can live with the mistakes. I fully understand why Haks limits his ice time after mistakes, but I don’t like it. As a fan I want to see him play more minutes. The coach has to win now.

I really hope that he can develop the D side of his game . With his speed he would be killer playing on the PK. Their short handed goals would double. That is hopefully in the future.
Also developing his two way game is the key to him getting the ice time.

I think Patrick is already there with reliable 2 way play and I hope if/when they make the playoffs Haks leans on Patrick to play the key minutes over Filp. NP wasn’t ready for it to start the year, but I believe he is now.

- Marc D


Well said.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 6 @ 11:30 AM ET
I don't know.

I wonder about a guy like Reece Wilcox in Lehigh. i have watched some games and he is a pretty solid defender. not going to put up points but a solid stay at home type. He isn't a mean nasty guy like Morin but is 6'3 and skates pretty well. Also a right hand shot

- J35Bacher


I just wonder with Hexys conservative approach to developing his prospects, if bringing up a RH Dman to replace Gudas is the answer next season with his responsibilities. Also, my concern keeping Gudas and chalking it up to a bad season is he was never fast, appears slower and has had knee issues. I dont consider him in the same light as Pronger whose hockey intelligence makes up for his physical decline. I think he addresses the 3rd pairing in the offseason, curious to see how.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 6 @ 11:31 AM ET
can't we all just get along
- wcorvette


I think we can. Folks just have to drop the attitudes.
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