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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 6 @ 3:50 PM ET
I will check with my Bruins stats man and see if I can get the numbers. I really would like to know either way. That is not an easy stat to locate on any site.
- joegreif17


Corsica.com.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 6 @ 3:52 PM ET
I'd bet it isn't.
- MJL


Would you have believed the flyers power play units without Giroux have been outscored this year while on the power play?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 6 @ 3:54 PM ET
Raffl seemed like he had one goal in mind: "Get to the net and let these two get the puck there."

I'm not knocking him, it's not a bad idea. He's very strong, and he can establish position well.

- jmatchett383

Using Raffl on the top line for a few shifts here and there to set a tone is fine. Hell, Shero used to put Schultz with Clarke and Barber once in a while for the same reason. However moving him back to the top line and just leaving him there for any length of time is just asinine.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Apr 6 @ 3:55 PM ET
Corsica.com.
- MJL


Thank you, also emailed Andy Brickley
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 6 @ 3:55 PM ET
Using Raffl on the top line for a few shifts here and there to set a tone is fine. Hell, Shero used to put Schultz with Clarke and Barber once in a while for the same reason. However moving him back to the top line and just leaving him there for any length of time is just asinine.
- BiggE



like the Bully reference.

i do think it is game specific and depending who has the last change
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Apr 6 @ 3:56 PM ET
Using Raffl on the top line for a few shifts here and there to set a tone is fine. Hell, Shero used to put Schultz with Clarke and Barber once in a while for the same reason. However moving him back to the top line and just leaving him there for any length of time is just asinine.
- BiggE


Agreed and Schultz was also a pretty underrated scorer. Also old time hockey existed and who would not have wanted Schultz riding shotgun, lol
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 6 @ 3:58 PM ET
Using Raffl on the top line for a few shifts here and there to set a tone is fine. Hell, Shero used to put Schultz with Clarke and Barber once in a while for the same reason. However moving him back to the top line and just leaving him there for any length of time is just asinine.
- BiggE


I agree. I don’t like these lines
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 6 @ 3:59 PM ET
Agreed and Schultz was also a pretty underrated scorer. Also old time hockey existed and who would not have wanted Schultz riding shotgun, lol
- joegreif17

True that. Clarke knew that was one shift where he wasn’t gonna get touched, lol
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Apr 6 @ 4:00 PM ET
Corsica.com.
- MJL


You could also try Holidayexpress.com
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 6 @ 4:00 PM ET
like the Bully reference.

i do think it is game specific and depending who has the last change

- wcorvette

Yeah, I just don’t want to see it on a consistent basis.
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 6 @ 4:01 PM ET
The greater number of games won, excluding games won in the Shootout (a.k.a ROW - Regulation+Overtime wins). Right now our ROW is tied with the panthers. But should they win their next two games (at least 1 in regulation) they would surpass us on the tiebreaker. It's why we need 1 point to clinch our spot. If we get 1 more point then it won't matter what they do we'd win on points and the tiebreaker won't be needed.

EDIT: After ROW would be the greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. But I doubt we get there.

If they lose in regulation or overtime in their next 2 games we get our 1 point and we go in.

- FlyersGrace


Thanks for the detailed clarification. Much appreciated!!👍
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 6 @ 4:03 PM ET
Thanks for the detailed clarification. Much appreciated!!👍
- Hokeeguy9



they are even in points earned.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Apr 6 @ 4:04 PM ET
True that. Clarke knew that was one shift where he wasn’t gonna get touched, lol
- BiggE


Yep and Gretzky was simply the greatest in his day but without Semenko as his personal body guard Wayne would have been smashed up pretty bad. I used to get a kick out of the other rat, not Brad but Ken Linesman who would stir up the pot and then let the big boys move in and settle the score, haha I liked him because he was a Flyer but he was a piece of poop the way he played, just like Marchand without the skill.
Doctor DOOM
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Where the bad things are
Joined: 12.13.2017

Apr 6 @ 4:07 PM ET
they are even in points earned.
- wcorvette


How so? Flyers are 1-2 vs Florida this year

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 6 @ 4:14 PM ET
Yep and Gretzky was simply the greatest in his day but without Semenko as his personal body guard Wayne would have been smashed up pretty bad. I used to get a kick out of the other rat, not Brad but Ken Linesman who would stir up the pot and then let the big boys move in and settle the score, haha I liked him because he was a Flyer but he was a piece of poop the way he played, just like Marchand without the skill.
- joegreif17

Yeah, I was meh on Linseman mainly because he just took way too many stupid penalties, but no doubt, if not for Paul Holmgren, he would of been dead before his 23rd birthday.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 6 @ 4:20 PM ET
Yep and Gretzky was simply the greatest in his day but without Semenko as his personal body guard Wayne would have been smashed up pretty bad. I used to get a kick out of the other rat, not Brad but Ken Linesman who would stir up the pot and then let the big boys move in and settle the score, haha I liked him because he was a Flyer but he was a piece of poop the way he played, just like Marchand without the skill.
- joegreif17


Didn't like him.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 6 @ 4:34 PM ET
I am here now. What has happened since page 8. Have I been quoted
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 6 @ 4:35 PM ET
I am here now. What has happened since page 8. Have I been quoted
- Giroux_Is_God

now you have been
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 6 @ 4:37 PM ET
I am here now. What has happened since page 8. Have I been quoted
- Giroux_Is_God

Giroux has been god like for sure
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 6 @ 4:39 PM ET
How so? Flyers are 1-2 vs Florida this year
- Doctor DOOM

So this was in Bill's blog a few days ago.

Points earned is based on h2h matchup in an even number of games. Must be an even number. If it is an odd number of games, the first home game for the team with the greater amount of home games is tossed.

So they're 1-2 overall: the Flyers won in phila but lost twice in Florida. But for the tiebreaker, since it's an odd number of games, the first home game for the team with the most home games in the season series gets tossed out to even the field. This helps the flyers obvs since they lost that game. The tiebreaker is even at 1-1. Strange, but justified in taking away what is basically home ice advantage in a tiebreaker.

For clarity's sake, if they flyers and Panthers played 4 times (or 2 or 6...) and played an even split of home/away games (1 and 1, 2 and 2, etc) no game results would be thrown out.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 6 @ 4:39 PM ET
From John Shannon via Down Goes Brown on Twitter

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 6 @ 4:40 PM ET
I am honored gentlemen thank you
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 6 @ 4:41 PM ET
How so? Flyers are 1-2 vs Florida this year
- Doctor DOOM

3. The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 6 @ 4:44 PM ET
3. The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing.
- wcorvette

You're leight meight
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 6 @ 4:47 PM ET
From John Shannon via Down Goes Brown on Twitter


- Scoob


While it would be extremely rare have such a tie, I'm glad they'd settle it with real hockey and not a gimmick.
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