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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 25 @ 9:30 PM ET
That's not accurate. Retained Salary can include bonuses.
- Lunaion


Ok, I wasn't totally sure. I thought I remember reading about it, but couldn't remember which way it was.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 25 @ 9:30 PM ET
He just refuses to acknowledge that
- jdfitz77

I really think the trade rumours and knowing he is getting moved has slowed his roll in games . Can't trade an injured player.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 25 @ 9:30 PM ET
Kessel's a 3rd line winger(wingers inherently make less money than centers) making $8M.
- Wetbandit1


And haven’t we been saying we wanna “build down the middle” for a while now?

That’s gonna cost

And for us, bc we have stunk for so long,
it means we likely overpay by a mil
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 25 @ 9:31 PM ET
I really think the trade rumours and knowing he is getting moved has slowed his roll in games . Can't trade an injured player.
- cabin


Certainly a possibility
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 25 @ 9:31 PM ET
The thing is once/if you have teams bidding against each other his last 15 games are largely irrelevant unless there was a catastrophic injury. His "value" is what another team is willing to pay, so his value could be inflated because there are multiple teams increasing their offer.

We know who Kane is at this point. He's in his 9th year. There are no more surprises in his game. He's going through an uncharacteristically bad stretch on a bad team. Is it "raising" his value, I doubt it, but it's also not taking the hit you seem to believe it is either, and the kicker is we'll never know.

- Wetbandit1



I mostly agree

If teams come out to see something special in kane and then he doesn't do anything special (like the last 15 games) might there be less teams interested in trading for him?

And wouldn't that lower his value, the whole supply and demand thing?

Aside from wanting a hot player to put them over the hump?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 25 @ 9:32 PM ET
Certainly a possibility
- jdfitz77

When was his last fight ?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 9:32 PM ET
McDavid and Draisaitl eat up over 20 million and the oilers suck. Should they trade them?
- jcragcrumple

1. they made the playoffs last year, we did not

2. that 20 million cap starts next year


http://www.hockeybuzz.com...central/team.php?team=EDM
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 25 @ 9:34 PM ET
To answer your question directly:


I could probably be less vague.

- Boss34



That’s fine...
revert to trolling

It’s obviously all u have at this point
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 9:35 PM ET
Kessel's a 3rd line winger(wingers inherently make less money than centers) making $8M.
- Wetbandit1

cap hit is under 7 for the pens


7th in scoring in entire nhl


won cups


Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 25 @ 9:35 PM ET
It was written as a buyout-proof contract. Why even worry about that now though? He's producing like a 2C.

There are many problems on this team - secondary scoring is a big one. Why pick problems with productive players?

- jcragcrumple



I'm not, just something I thought of when his name was getting thrown around.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 25 @ 9:36 PM ET
1. they made the playoffs last year, we did not

2. that 20 million cap starts next year


http://www.hockeybuzz.com...central/team.php?team=EDM

- homiedclown


So does our 17.5mil cap hit

Regardless...
Jack & ROR are NOT the problem

The crap around them,
which i listed in detail for u earlier,
is what needs fixin
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 25 @ 9:36 PM ET
cap hit is under 7 for the pens


7th in scoring in entire nhl


won cups

- homiedclown


I was being half sarcastic
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 9:36 PM ET
my biggest concern for ror, is he doesn't have the wheels for what botts wants

you can obviously work around it by moving him to wing or give him 2 speedy wingers but


he is not a botts guy, and with 7.5 per year there is no wiggle room for bogo/moulson deals moving forward


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 9:37 PM ET
So does our 17.5mil cap hit

Regardless...
Jack & ROR are NOT the problem

The crap around them,
which i listed in detail for u earlier,
is what needs fixin

- jdfitz77

but with eichel and ror, there should at least be a few 3 game winning streaks


that is the flip side to the coin
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 25 @ 9:38 PM ET
I mostly agree

If teams come out to see something special in kane and then he doesn't do anything special (like the last 15 games) might there be less teams interested in trading for him?

And wouldn't that lower his value, the whole supply and demand thing?

Aside from wanting a hot player to put them over the hump?

- Boss34



Sure!

But...
Botts raised his price

Based on that,
it’s safe to assume that demand is still high & that teams are not dropping out
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 9:38 PM ET
I was being half sarcastic
- Wetbandit1

O qua tangin wann
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 25 @ 9:38 PM ET
my biggest concern for ror, is he doesn't have the wheels for what botts wants

you can obviously work around it by moving him to wing or give him 2 speedy wingers but


he is not a botts guy, and with 7.5 per year there is no wiggle room for bogo/moulson deals moving forward

- homiedclown


Don’t hassle my jimmies
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 25 @ 9:39 PM ET
Specially now with the mcdonadls bacon mcdouble for 2 bucks . mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
- cabin



More importantly, is the hotdog guy still right outside the doors of the arena near the Sabres store?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 9:39 PM ET
Don’t hassle my jimmies
- Der Kaiser

AKEEM AHLAGEEWANN
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 25 @ 9:40 PM ET
To answer your question directly:




I could probably be less vague.

- Boss34



TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 25 @ 9:40 PM ET
Yep, and when your excuse is "that's not who he meant" like we could possibly know that. You're either A) just trolling, in which case, great job, or B) A moron. Take your pick.
- Wetbandit1

Here we go again. Same old dog and pony show. Fifth grade level name calling and deflection. Whats next? An invitation to fight?
When someone quotes a post YOU posted on YOUR OWN accord after hitting the "submit" button, it IS something YOU said. Check the archive. Either you or it is lying. and deflecting. and name calling. like a child. Id bet even a moron could figure that one out.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 9:40 PM ET
http://fantasy.hockeybuzz.com/hbsl/boxscore/4143

evander kane will probably determine my outcome


Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 25 @ 9:40 PM ET
AKEEM AHLAGEEWANN
- homiedclown



Barooooooo
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 25 @ 9:41 PM ET
but with eichel and ror, there should at least be a few 3 game winning streaks


that is the flip side to the coin

- homiedclown


Blame Lehner
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 9:42 PM ET
Barooooooo
- Der Kaiser

Uhhhhhhhhh, huh
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