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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 23 @ 3:23 PM ET
Barzal hat trick.... what do our first rounders do?
- DaveofYork


Uummmmm eeeerr. Ours are too good for WJC! Boooooyaahhhh!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 23 @ 3:25 PM ET
That’s my question to you!

I would think that he’d excel at some type of area in the NHL if your suggesting he can “play”

It’s obvious, much like vinny showed years ago, he cannot “play” at this level.

Now if he’s a living and breathing organism skating around in an orange flyers jersey with the other players maybe he can “play”. If that’s your definition

- Just5



He is a 13th forward on this team. If you expect him to excel in any area than the expectations are the issue. I have no issue with the Flyers using veteran players as stopgaps while they try and develop and upgrade the teams talent. Far too much is made of that. It's temporary.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 23 @ 3:28 PM ET
I'm getting real drunk and poop posting tonight.

Hope you guys are ready.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 23 @ 3:28 PM ET
filpulla played well st the beginning of thr srsosn, but the last handful of gamrs have been downright awful for him

weise has been better than last year, but thats such a low bar. still pretty bad

lehtera has been a nightmare. what happened to him?

weal has lookes much better of lste i think hr was just really struggling through his injuries. same with patrick

and unpopular opinion but i truly dont think Hagg has played well at all. Hes a younger MacDaddy with worse possesion stats
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Dec 23 @ 3:30 PM ET
I'm getting real drunk and poop posting tonight.

Hope you guys are ready.

- Mordecai


ok...we'll answer between the multitude of icings and dumpouts
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 23 @ 3:31 PM ET
but seriously guys 4/6 of our most played dmen have been in the league 3 years or less. all y'all clamored for the rooks to play and they are. what do you expect??
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 23 @ 3:33 PM ET
but seriously guys 4/6 of our most played dmen have been in the league 3 years or less. all y'all clamored for the rooks to play and they are. what do you expect??
- bulet13

Most people's gripes aren't with the rookies though...
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Dec 23 @ 3:36 PM ET
Most people's gripes aren't with the rookies though...
- hereticpride

I agree... it's with all the forwards that lack the S factors. Speed, size and skill.
The young d-men? Let 'em learn
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 23 @ 3:50 PM ET
Most people's gripes aren't with the rookies though...
- hereticpride


yeah but its a contrubuting factor to why we lose games. giveaways by hagg and sanheim, out of position, chasing thr puck...those breakdowns lead to goals and losses but im okay with that

in regards to the forwards, the only ones playing worse than i expected are flip and simmer...the others we're getting what we signed up for
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 23 @ 3:53 PM ET
we were expected to be a playoff bubble team and thats what we are. i see no surprises
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 23 @ 3:55 PM ET
I'm getting real drunk and poop posting tonight.

Hope you guys are ready.

- Mordecai


Welcome to the dark side!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 23 @ 3:56 PM ET
we were expected to be a playoff bubble team and thats what we are. i see no surprises
- bulet13





I'm okay with them being that team but I can't stand performances like last night.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 23 @ 3:58 PM ET
we were expected to be a playoff bubble team and thats what we are. i see no surprises
- bulet13


What were the Devils and Knights expected to be? Were they expected to be leading their Divisions? It's ok to exceed expectations.

The 10 game losing streak wasn't a surprise? Going through the motions and getting embarrassed by the two worst teams in the NHL isn't a surprise?
Lip_Out
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kalamazoo, NT
Joined: 11.03.2017

Dec 23 @ 3:59 PM ET
Welcome to the dark side!
- BiggE

Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Dec 23 @ 3:59 PM ET


I'm okay with them being that team but I can't stand performances like last night.

- MJL


And it's usually games like last night that'll have that bubble burst.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 23 @ 4:04 PM ET
The Flyers are still just lacking the overall skill to be a top team right now, is what it is.

Their 2C would be a 4C on a Cup squad and the guy they pair with Provorov on the top pair would be a 4/5 guy. They only have 2 wingers, G & Jake that belong in a contenders top 6 too and their #1 goalie lets in too many bad angle goals to backstop a contender.

On the bright side, guys like Patrick, Sanheim and Konecny are only going to get better and a lot of very good talent is in the system. And 2 more 1st round picks are coming this Spring

Just gotta hang in there. I still think this team is only going to get better and better over the next few years.

The next big question is: Is Hak the guy who should be coaching that team? Personally, I'm not sold, but I'm willing to give him a little more time.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 23 @ 4:07 PM ET
Barzal hat trick.... what do our first rounders do?
- DaveofYork


Giroux is 6th in points as top line LW, Couturier is 33rd in points and is out top line C, Provorov is anchoring our top D pair and Ghost another quarterbacks the PP and is 3rd among scoring dmen. Hagg is having a great year and Sanheim is doing well as well on the 3rd pair.

Patrick and Konecny are guys who need time to adjust to NHL play. It took Couturier 8 years to break out.

Voracek is a 1st round pick by CBJ and leads the team in points for 5th in the NHL.

So yea I guess the first round picks on this team are doing nothing....

It really annoys me how stupid this fan base can be......
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Dec 23 @ 4:08 PM ET
The Flyers are still just lacking the overall skill to be a top team right now, is what it is.

Their 2C would be a 4C on a Cup squad and the guy they pair with Provorov on the top pair would be a 4/5 guy. They only have 2 wingers, G & Jake that belong in a contenders top 6 too and their #1 goalie lets in too many bad angle goals to backstop a contender.

On the bright side, guys like Patrick, Sanheim and Konecny are only going to get better and a lot of very good talent is in the system. And 2 more 1st round picks are coming this Spring

Just gotta hang in there. I still think this team is only going to get better and better over the next few years.

The next big question is: Is Hak the guy who should be coaching that team? Personally, I'm not sold, but I'm willing to give him a little more time.

- BiggE


Well said!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 23 @ 4:09 PM ET
The Flyers are still just lacking the overall skill to be a top team right now, is what it is.

Their 2C would be a 4C on a Cup squad and the guy they pair with Provorov on the top pair would be a 4/5 guy. They only have 2 wingers, G & Jake that belong in a contenders top 6 too and their #1 goalie lets in too many bad angle goals to backstop a contender.

On the bright side, guys like Patrick, Sanheim and Konecny are only going to get better and a lot of very good talent is in the system. And 2 more 1st round picks are coming this Spring

Just gotta hang in there. I still think this team is only going to get better and better over the next few years.

The next big question is: Is Hak the guy who should be coaching that team? Personally, I'm not sold, but I'm willing to give him a little more time.

- BiggE



coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Dec 23 @ 4:10 PM ET
I'm getting real drunk and poop posting tonight.

Hope you guys are ready.

- Mordecai

Is that different from other nights 😜
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 23 @ 4:11 PM ET
Well said!
- coffee junkie


No it isnt. Fillpula is a 3rd line Center. That is what he was in Tampa. That being said he wasnt added to be a #2 C. He was here so we could get a draft pick for the future and he will not be resigned. He is just the best available option at the moment. Patrick is not ready.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 23 @ 4:13 PM ET
Is that different from other nights 😜
- coffee junkie

i don't drink very much tbh
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 23 @ 4:18 PM ET
No it isnt. Fillpula is a 3rd line Center. That is what he was in Tampa. That being said he wasnt added to be a #2 C. He was here so we could get a draft pick for the future and he will not be resigned. He is just the best available option at the moment. Patrick is not ready.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Tampa was a year ago and he was a borderline 3C then. It's a young man's league and he's aging fast. Yeah, on most teams he's a 3C, but on the very best, he's centering the 4th line.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 23 @ 4:19 PM ET
Barzal hat trick.... what do our first rounders do?
- DaveofYork



Play 25 minutes a night on our first defense pair?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 23 @ 4:24 PM ET
Play 25 minutes a night on our first defense pair?
- MBFlyerfan

Exactly
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