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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 23 @ 11:18 PM ET
actually it was a good game and we played pretty well
one disallowed goal and one post in OT stopped us from 2 pts

- bulet13

Sounds like typical Flyers this season. Ugh.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 23 @ 11:19 PM ET
Lavi's suit tho.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 23 @ 11:47 PM ET
I missed the game but I assume it was usual meh brand of Flyers hockey?

We're really the New York Mets of the NHL.

- hereticpride


Flyers played a good game..
Had no issues with effort or pace tonight.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 23 @ 11:47 PM ET
Lol.

Zak Rinaldo is gonna Rinaldo..
Anyone see what he did tonight?
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 23 @ 11:52 PM ET
Lol.

Zak Rinaldo is gonna Rinaldo..
Anyone see what he did tonight?

- opeth_pa


hes still in the league?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 24 @ 12:00 AM ET
hes still in the league?
- bulet13


I swear he wears an A for Phoenix
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 24 @ 12:35 AM ET
another day another strong showing from elliot
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 24 @ 12:52 AM ET
Lol.

Zak Rinaldo is gonna Rinaldo..
Anyone see what he did tonight?

- opeth_pa

What'd he do
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 24 @ 12:58 AM ET
What'd he do
- Giroux_Is_God

pooppost on the ice
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 24 @ 1:08 AM ET
i think we actually played pretty well today
- bulet13

And we still lost
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 24 @ 1:09 AM ET
What'd he do
- Giroux_Is_God

2nd this
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 24 @ 6:53 AM ET
2nd this
- 2Real




http://www.sportingnews.c...4inbeqlvscd21lmrhp1wu7b20
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 24 @ 8:00 AM ET
I have to admit, Brian Elliott has been really good for us. I can't imagine where we'd be right now if this team was subjected to Mason's constant up and down play again this year.
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Dec 24 @ 8:04 AM ET
I have to admit, Brian Elliott has been really good for us. I can't imagine where we'd be right now if this team was subjected to Mason's constant up and down play again this year.
- hereticpride

Um, I don't know....missing the playoffs? All kidding aside, Elliott has been solid. It's a shame he has to be saddled with some of these losses. A little more skill up front would go a long way. There's better days ahead for us...just not this year

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 24 @ 8:05 AM ET
It's almost like Ghost CAN be a top pair d-man alongside Provorov and wreck poop and help Provy out too, who looked way more confident and active.

Maybe someone can dredge up a year old quote saying the same thing to leave me in shambles.

- Mononoke



You did that yourself with the Provorov looked way more confident and active comment. That statement should be on a bill board for confirmation bias.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 24 @ 8:26 AM ET
http://www.sportingnews.c...4inbeqlvscd21lmrhp1wu7b20
- MBFlyerfan


Once a douchebag, always a douchebag.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 24 @ 8:30 AM ET
Really liked the Ghost/Provorov pair last night, the Hagg/AMac not so much. Perhaps they should try putting Sanheim with AMac and Hagg with Gudas. Sanheim can do most of the puck handling on a pair with AMac and Hagg can move to his natural side while playing with Gudas.

I liked the changes in the forward lines too, now they just need to get Lindblom up so that we can get Lehtera off the ice.

Overall I thought they played pretty well, just ran into a very good goalie who was on top of his game. Oh well, perhaps they should have tried to convince Bob that it was a playoff game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 24 @ 8:36 AM ET
Really liked the Ghost/Provorov pair last night, the Hagg/AMac not so much. Perhaps they should try putting Sanheim with AMac and Hagg with Gudas. Sanheim can do most of the puck handling on a pair with AMac and Hagg can move to his natural side while playing with Gudas.

I liked the changes in the forward lines too, now they just need to get Lindblom up so that we can get Lehtera off the ice.

Overall I thought they played pretty well, just ran into a very good goalie who was on top of his game. Oh well, perhaps they should have tried to convince Bob that it was a playoff game.

- BiggE



I like the Gostisbehere-Provorov pairing but not sure about it long term. I don't see as a pairing that should be used in all game situations. I completely don't like the MacDonald-Hagg pairing. Too similar of players and don't compliment each other well.
I think the Flyers were more aggressive and up on their skates last night than the Buffalo game but they were too much of a one line team last night. Weal was a healthy scratch so if he could get his act together, he could get Lehtera out of the lineup.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 24 @ 8:51 AM ET
I like the Gostisbehere-Provorov pairing but not sure about it long term. I don't see as a pairing that should be used in all game situations. I completely don't like the MacDonald-Hagg pairing. Too similar of players and don't compliment each other well.
I think the Flyers were more aggressive and up on their skates last night than the Buffalo game but they were too much of a one line team last night. Weal was a healthy scratch so if he could get his act together, he could get Lehtera out of the lineup.

- MJL


I think the Provy/Ghost pair is fine long term, obviously you break them up for PK and when protecting a lead in the last couple minutes of the game, but other than that, I really like it. Re Weal: I'd rather have a struggling Weal in the lineup over Lehtera. Lehtera's skating is just awful and he does little, if anything, productive while on the ice. I knew he was on the decline, but to have all 0 goals and 2 assists after 20 games while also being -5 is just pathetic. While he and Weal both have so-so possession stats, at least Weal can skate and he has 3 goals and 9 points in 30 games while only being -3.

At this point, Lindblom, Read, and when he's healthy, Vecchione should be playing before Lehtera.

Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Dec 24 @ 8:52 AM ET
I have to admit, Brian Elliott has been really good for us. I can't imagine where we'd be right now if this team was subjected to Mason's constant up and down play again this year.
- hereticpride

landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 24 @ 8:55 AM ET
Really liked the Ghost/Provorov pair last night, the Hagg/AMac not so much. Perhaps they should try putting Sanheim with AMac and Hagg with Gudas. Sanheim can do most of the puck handling on a pair with AMac and Hagg can move to his natural side while playing with Gudas.

I liked the changes in the forward lines too, now they just need to get Lindblom up so that we can get Lehtera off the ice.

Overall I thought they played pretty well, just ran into a very good goalie who was on top of his game. Oh well, perhaps they should have tried to convince Bob that it was a playoff game.

- BiggE


I liked Konecny up on first line.....thought he played well. The ghost /‘provy pairing really could be dynamic....the nice thing is they are both still young and should be in the Flyer plans for years to come. I thought they complemented each other nicely. Hopefully Lindblom is close, god knows they could use more skill....there was a Weise sighting on the second pp unit last night. That shouldn’t happen....ever....like ever.
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Dec 24 @ 8:59 AM ET

- Landsbergfan

so who do you like after the obvious 4 or 5 picks?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 24 @ 9:01 AM ET
Amac and Hägg were horrendous.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 24 @ 9:04 AM ET
I liked Konecny up on first line.....thought he played well. The ghost /‘provy pairing really could be dynamic....the nice thing is they are both still young and should be in the Flyer plans for years to come. I thought they complemented each other nicely. Hopefully Lindblom is close, god knows they could use more skill....there was a Weise sighting on the second pp unit last night. That shouldn’t happen....ever....like ever.
- landros 2


The Provy/Ghost pair has potential to be a lot like the Howe/McCrimmon pair was in the mid 80's. While I don't think that Ghost will ever be as complete a player as Mark Howe was, I do think that Provorov can be a more dynamic and better all around player than McCrimmon was to balance it out.

I'd replace Ghost on the PK, but other than that, I'd roll with this pair for a while and let them build some chemistry together.

Lindblom has been playing very well of late, if it keeps up, I think he's up soon. At that point, I'm hoping to see:

G-Coots-TK
Raffl-Patrick-Voracek
Lindblom-Filppula-Simmonds
Leier-Laughton-Weise or Weal

And, I'd still look to see if Weal can be dealt for a bigger, grittier player that can penalties and be a better fit on the 4th line.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 24 @ 9:04 AM ET
Amac and Hägg were horrendous.
- Just5


Both have subpar puck skills. I think they'd be much better off putting Sanheim with AMac and letting Hagg play his natural side paired with Gudas.
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