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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 25 @ 9:44 AM ET
Yes trade match is present. Just when I throw out things like sprong or a 1st round pick people yelled at me. 1 year of control on hornqvist isn't enough to land a 21 year old former top 4 pick whose shown something at the NHL level (Even if its not potential to be elite).

Maybe a match could be made on Sheary.

They will either want an equivalent young rw with potential or a package of a right wing now and someone for later (which is basically sprong in our case).

- sditulli


Id move Sheary before Sprong.....Sheary will be overpaid for a playoff healthy scratch.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 25 @ 10:58 AM ET
Dumo played with a broken hand that he kept re-breaking in the playoffs.

http://www.tsn.ca/pens-du...imes-in-playoffs-1.812956

- rocheccw


A real man would have simply glared at his hand and scared the hand into fixing itself.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 25 @ 11:22 AM ET
A real man would have simply glared at his hand and scared the hand into fixing itself.
- jmatchett383


Remember when Kovalev embellished the hand injury in OT vs the Bruins in a playoff game and it directly lead to the Bruins scoring and winning the game? haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuwFAmqVNSQ
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 25 @ 11:32 AM ET
Remember when Kovalev embellished the hand injury in OT vs the Bruins in a playoff game and it directly lead to the Bruins scoring and winning the game? haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuwFAmqVNSQ

- MattStrat


I do. And as much as I hate all Boston area pro sports teams, part of me felt very satisfied.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 25 @ 11:43 AM ET
I do. And as much as I hate all Boston area pro sports teams, part of me felt very satisfied.
- jmatchett383



Well then you must of also been really satisfied with the Bruins losing the next 3 games in a row and series
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jul 25 @ 11:50 AM ET
Agreed they likely wouldn't want maatta, which is why I don't think they're good trading partners.
- mw630


Definitely disagree 100%! If Calgary isn't at least a good trading partner I'd love to hear the list of teams and players that are a better fit that are capable good 3rd line centres...

Reasons for Calgary
1- Calgary clearly needs RWs (Hornqvist would immediately be there #1)
2- Burke and the flames org seem to love players that play exactly the way Hornqvist does.
3- Flames are in a win now mode evidence with the Smith and Hamonic trades for picks and prospects.

Reasons for Pittsburgh
1- Pens need a 3rd line center with skill. Being 21 doesn't hurt either!
2- Pens have there most depth at RW and possibly still to many with even trading 1. How long do you leave Sprong down before giving him a chance? Junior isn't helping his progression much longer. He looks to be a pure scorer with defensive liabilities. He needs top 6 sooner then later.
3- Solves at least the 3rd line center for a long time with clearly potential to jump up to 2nd line for injury.

As for 1 year left for Hornqvist an extension can be worked out before or the minute after a deal was worked out. Just like the pens could talk to Bennett with permission before the trade as well. People seemed to be fine getting bozak with 1 year left but when it's Hornqvist all a sudden it's not good???
We talk about Sprong having so much potential and Bennett losing it but Bennett is only 9 months older and has a 36 point NHL season under his belt. Playing with Brouwer and minimal PP time none the less! Are the pens gonna be able to offer Horny 5 years @ 5 per next offseason? Highly doubt it. Guentzel, rust, cole all gonna want raises to in a year or 2. Why would Hornqvist take a pay cut when he's won his rings and probably his last big contract.

I'd say Hornqvist, Pouliot or ZAR, 1st for Bennett and that's a win for both sides.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 25 @ 11:55 AM ET
Definitely disagree 100%! If Calgary isn't at least a good trading partner I'd love to hear the list of teams and players that are a better fit that are capable good 3rd line centres...

Reasons for Calgary
1- Calgary clearly needs RWs (Hornqvist would immediately be there #1)
2- Burke and the flames org seem to love players that play exactly the way Hornqvist does.
3- Flames are in a win now mode evidence with the Smith and Hamonic trades for picks and prospects.

Reasons for Pittsburgh
1- Pens need a 3rd line center with skill. Being 21 doesn't hurt either!
2- Pens have there most depth at RW and possibly still to many with even trading 1. How long do you leave Sprong down before giving him a chance? Junior isn't helping his progression much longer. He looks to be a pure scorer with defensive liabilities. He needs top 6 sooner then later.
3- Solves at least the 3rd line center for a long time with clearly potential to jump up to 2nd line for injury.

As for 1 year left for Hornqvist an extension can be worked out before or the minute after a deal was worked out. Just like the pens could talk to Bennett with permission before the trade as well. People seemed to be fine getting bozak with 1 year left but when it's Hornqvist all a sudden it's not good???
We talk about Sprong having so much potential and Bennett losing it but Bennett is only 9 months older and has a 36 point NHL season under his belt. Playing with Brouwer and minimal PP time none the less! Are the pens gonna be able to offer Horny 5 years @ 5 per next offseason? Highly doubt it. Guentzel, rust, cole all gonna want raises to in a year or 2. Why would Hornqvist take a pay cut when he's won his rings and probably his last big contract.

I'd say Hornqvist, Pouliot or ZAR, 1st for Bennett and that's a win for both sides.

- pens4life-66


I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see the Flames giving up on their 2014 4th overall pick yet.
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jul 25 @ 12:18 PM ET
I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see the Flames giving up on their 2014 4th overall pick yet.
- MattStrat


Not saying you are wrong at all but you have to give to get on both sides of the deal. I didn't mention either the Pens were asking about Bennett as early as a year ago and the Flames have been looking for RW options as early as last month. Seems to scream that there is a match. I don't see the the pens being able to extend Hornqvist at all and don't think it's a good idea being he will be 32 the season he signs and with his style of play is a risk to break down by 35. I do like Hornqvist a lot just with our RW depth and hole at center I'd be all over this trade. Like I said you have to give to get and that's from pens and flames sides.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Jul 25 @ 12:33 PM ET
Remember when Kovalev embellished the hand injury in OT vs the Bruins in a playoff game and it directly lead to the Bruins scoring and winning the game? haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuwFAmqVNSQ

- MattStrat


That's what I'll always remember him for, even though he was crazy skilled.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 25 @ 5:03 PM ET
Id move Sheary before Sprong.....Sheary will be overpaid for a playoff healthy scratch.
- sammy87

That's the way I feel too. + Arvidsson's money is the most Hörnqvist would get from us If he were to be re-signed.

I don't think Sheary is worth more than $3M right now.
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