If we were confident Sheary could continue his scoring pace, stay healthy, and the playoffs were a fluke, 4.1M for 6 would be a huge bargain. But who's confident in that?
- Tojo.

I agree, but just based off of what I've seen, I don't think that sheary has the skills to put up numbers away from high caliber players. Who knows. This season should be a real teller for him

I agree, but just based off of what I've seen, I don't think that sheary has the skills to put up numbers away from high caliber players. Who knows. This season should be a real teller for him
- rbaurle51

My guess on Sheary is $3.25M for one or two years if it gets really, really close to arbitration (doubt it goes all the way). If he signs soon, it might be a higher amount and possibly a longer term the way things are going.

Agreed. You don't get through 4 rounds on luck. Lucky moments sure. Both superstar centers played like superstars. Goal tending was incredible. Some of the kids had really big moments. They won the previous year in dominating fashion. This year was a mixed bag of star power, grit, guile and experience. Anybody who wonders how the Pens won it this year needs to focus on Cullen in game 6 against Nashville.

All that being said, I wouldn't like our chances without Letang next year.
- madmike71

Yeah man, I've mentioned Cullen in game 6 as well. It's why I really hope he goes for the 3peat. It's a chance do something extremely fn special and he still has game to give. Sure, the odds are not in favour of a 3peat but if they can head into post season relatively healthy they have just as good a chance as anyone IMO and they are all, besides the few new additions, proven big time. They are two time battle tested. They have it in them.

Hornqvist wouldn't mean much to flames only one year of control. And our picks are not high enough. You would need them interested in sprong or sheary to get it going.

Hornqvist sprong plus first could be reasonable.

Why does everyone rag on Maatta. You win two Cups with the guy in the lineup at a reasonable price and WAH WAH WAH That is all I hear Button it and move on. What a bunch of spoiled brats. Yikes
- holeinone

You whined all the time about Fleury and he helped to bring 3 cups. Shut yet yap geezer.

Hornqvist wouldn't mean much to flames only one year of control. And our picks are not high enough. You would need them interested in sprong or sheary to get it going.

Hornqvist sprong plus first could be reasonable.
- sditulli

Hornqvist (a fringe top 6 UFA), Sprong (Pen's top offensive prospect on an ELC) + a first could be reasonable for a guy with a career high 36 points, who didn't break 30 points last year and is a RFA? Hard pass, thank you. You way overvalue Bennett.

Hornqvist (a fringe top 6 UFA), Sprong (Pen's top offensive prospect on an ELC) + a first could be reasonable for a guy with a career high 36 points, who didn't break 30 points last year and is a RFA? Hard pass, thank you. You way overvalue Bennett.
- mw630

The guy just became legal to drink about a month ago. Most guys his age aren't setting the league on fire just yet.

The guy just became legal to drink about a month ago. Most guys his age aren't setting the league on fire just yet.
- T-Train

And Daniel Sprong is even younger, will be more affordable for the next few years, and has just a high of a ceiling. Bennett has the Yakupov value of being drafted really high. He hasn't lived up to that top 5 pick status. Why trade Sprong, a first, and Horny for a guy you're going to have to pay right away and hope he lives up to his potential? At least with Sprong, he's on an ECL if he doesn't live up to the potential.

And Daniel Sprong is even younger, will be more affordable for the next few years, and has just a high of a ceiling. Bennett has the Yakupov value of being drafted really high. He hasn't lived up to that top 5 pick status. Why trade Sprong, a first, and Horny for a guy you're going to have to pay right away and hope he lives up to his potential? At least with Sprong, he's on an ECL if he doesn't live up to the potential.
- mw630

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What does CGY need at the moment? D? Wingers? G Prospect? Picks?

Hornquest does nothing for them. Maata, DP, Jarry, Picks, Kessel, Sprong, are about all the Pens. Maybe they want Hags as part of a deal?

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What does CGY need at the moment? D? Wingers? G Prospect? Picks?

Hornquest does nothing for them. Maata, DP, Jarry, Picks, Kessel, Sprong, are about all the Pens. Maybe they want Hags as part of a deal?
- sammy87

Calgary's best RW is Frolik. They're good at C, good at LW, and fantastic on D. If they make any trades, its for a RW. We have those in spades. Hornqivst might actually pique their interest. He is a legit top 6 scoring winger who'd compliment Johnny Hockey and Monahan really well on the top line.

And Daniel Sprong is even younger, will be more affordable for the next few years, and has just a high of a ceiling. Bennett has the Yakupov value of being drafted really high. He hasn't lived up to that top 5 pick status. Why trade Sprong, a first, and Horny for a guy you're going to have to pay right away and hope he lives up to his potential? At least with Sprong, he's on an ECL if he doesn't live up to the potential.
- mw630

amen, we dont need to take a flyer on someone still hoping to pan out because of a draft position. Wouldnt include Sprong in any realistic trade proposal thats out there. i would still look to acquire Bennett possibly but not at said value.

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What does CGY need at the moment? D? Wingers? G Prospect? Picks?

Hornquest does nothing for them. Maata, DP, Jarry, Picks, Kessel, Sprong, are about all the Pens. Maybe they want Hags as part of a deal?
- sammy87

I just don't see a trade fit between the teams, unless they want to do a Maatta swap. No reason for the Pens to give up Sprong, ZAR, Jarry or Kessel. DP + or Maatta is about all I'd want the Pens to do.

Calgary's best RW is Frolik. They're good at C, good at LW, and fantastic on D. If they make any trades, its for a RW. We have those in spades. Hornqivst might actually pique their interest. He is a legit top 6 scoring winger who'd compliment Johnny Hockey and Monahan really well on the top line.
- Victoro311

Yes but hornqvist has one year of control.

The question is what else would they want that is a longer term assets

Doesn't sprong come off elc after this season? I forgot what carrying him on the big team that first year costs us....at least 1 year of elc. I don't know the current opinion of bennetts upside but he is producing in the NHL even if it's not the elite level a team would want.

I would assume flames would want a package of current contribution + close to NHL ready + pick.

Unless sheary has high enough trade value to a the big piece.

I just don't see a trade fit between the teams, unless they want to do a Maatta swap. No reason for the Pens to give up Sprong, ZAR, Jarry or Kessel. DP + or Maatta is about all I'd want the Pens to do.
- mw630

Calgary is stacked at D. Bennett is already a proven 3c with some potential upside of I'm guessing a 2c. I don't think he's a guy you can get for spare parts.

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What does CGY need at the moment? D? Wingers? G Prospect? Picks?

Hornquest does nothing for them. Maata, DP, Jarry, Picks, Kessel, Sprong, are about all the Pens. Maybe they want Hags as part of a deal?
- sammy87

Nothing for them!? He would be 100% there top RW from day 1.... So that's something. Frolik is looked at around the league as a skilled good 3rd line winger/ average 2nd line winger and that's from the flames fans and writers themselves.

As for Hornqvists 1 year left they are allowed to let flames and his agent discuss a deal before the trade happens now that's he's elidgible to re sign right now.

Bennett is apparently looking for 3 years @ 3 million same as what Tatar, galchenyuk, niederriter, lindholm. VERY comparable age stats and upside.

Ya I'd say there is a deal to be made there. Keep up

Calgary is stacked at D. Bennett is already a proven 3c with some potential upside of I'm guessing a 2c. I don't think he's a guy you can get for spare parts.
- sditulli

I don't see maatta as spare parts and Bennet, while having talent, hasn't proven all that much in the NHL. I agree he can't be had for spare parts, which is a reason I don't think it's a good fit. Spong doesn't hit RFA until 2018-2019. Pens shouldn't be giving up proven players, highend prospects and a 1st for a player that is over valued because of his draft position. He has talent, but that's just too much to get rid of on a gamble.

This just in:

Sheary will get the dollar amount he want some or else he will post nudes of mike Sullivan's niece.

Bennettbuzzzzzzzzzz.

Ok I'm in (on the buzz that is).

If JR is looking at Bennett which it appears he is, he was also rumoured to have wanted him for Flower as well didn't he?

Seems realistic, & with the Flames wanting the now, they may have lost patience with young Sammy B. Let's hope so, although it's probably no guarantee he will pan out as much as I hate to say.

Maybe he really needs some Sid & Geno Magic on his arse.

Bennett is apparently looking for 3 years @ 3 million same as what Tatar, galchenyuk, niederriter, lindholm. VERY comparable age stats and upside.

Ya I'd say there is a deal to be made there. Keep up
- pens4life-66

If the Pens can sign Sheary and land Bennett for what they have left under the cap ($6.7 mil.) for three year deals, I'd be ok with that. If they have to give up Sprong to get him - as much as I'd hate to see Sprong go elsewhere and become the great scoring winger I think he'll be - I'd be ok with that too, simply because the Pens have enough depth at wing to absorb this loss, only if it means getting a young 3rd line center with tremendous upside in return.

I wouldn't give up Horny simply because that creates another void with a type of player the Pens don't have in the system (You can't just plug Sprong into Hornqvists role), so they will have to go find his replacement outside, and they might not be able to. Everyone thinks Horny is an easy replacement. He's not. Plus; JR wants to add more physical players, getting Bennett helps that, getting rid of Hornqvist does not.

They do have a little depth at center in Rowney and McKegg, and can be ok if one of those are the future 4th line center if Cullen retires (Rowney preferably), but neither compares with Bennett as far a centering a 3rd line that can be a serious threat to score and adds a physical edge to the team.

I don't see maatta as spare parts and Bennet, while having talent, hasn't proven all that much in the NHL. I agree he can't be had for spare parts, which is a reason I don't think it's a good fit. Spong doesn't hit RFA until 2018-2019. Pens shouldn't be giving up proven players, highend prospects and a 1st for a player that is over valued because of his draft position. He has talent, but that's just too much to get rid of on a gamble.
- mw630

Calgary is pretty stacked at defense. Maatta isn't a piece they would likely want.

Mark Giordano, brodie, hamilton, harmonic is a fantastic top 4 (With a lot of money invested) and the 3rd pairing is fine with bartkowksi and michael stone. I don't think maatta is a spare part but he's 3rd pairing at best for them.

Calgary is pretty stacked at defense. Maatta isn't a piece they would likely want.

Mark Giordano, brodie, hamilton, harmonic is a fantastic top 4 (With a lot of money invested) and the 3rd pairing is fine with bartkowksi and michael stone. I don't think maatta is a spare part but he's 3rd pairing at best for them.
- sditulli

Agreed they likely wouldn't want maatta, which is why I don't think they're good trading partners.

Agreed they likely wouldn't want maatta, which is why I don't think they're good trading partners.
- mw630

Why? Their need is RW. That's literally our deepest position.

Again, let me reiterate that if Maatta is traded, Hunwick becomes a top 4 defenseman. Maatta isn't expendable unless there's a top 4 defenseman coming back. We are stupid shallow on D.

Dumo played with a broken hand that he kept re-breaking in the playoffs.

http://www.tsn.ca/pens-du...imes-in-playoffs-1.812956

Why? Their need is RW. That's literally our deepest position.

Again, let me reiterate that if Maatta is traded, Hunwick becomes a top 4 defenseman. Maatta isn't expendable unless there's a top 4 defenseman coming back. We are stupid shallow on D.
- Victoro311

Yes trade match is present. Just when I throw out things like sprong or a 1st round pick people yelled at me. 1 year of control on hornqvist isn't enough to land a 21 year old former top 4 pick whose shown something at the NHL level (Even if its not potential to be elite).

Maybe a match could be made on Sheary.

They will either want an equivalent young rw with potential or a package of a right wing now and someone for later (which is basically sprong in our case).