What would it take to get Meyers from WPG?

Bozak + prospect?
JVR + pick?

or just straight up?

Hard to tell because he's been injured so much lately but I'd like him on the Leafs

To much at this point! he'd be our highest paid dman! I don't see it happening! Imho
- MR.Hunter

Didn't even think about that....good point.

But, top pairing guys get paid, especially by other GMs. Not sure we can set the salary bar at Rielly money. If we can fill that hole, the chances are the players salary is going to be set by the other team's GM already, not ours.

maybe at the 2019 trade deadline the price will be that. i think it costs more this year.

they also have other guys carter, muzzin, etc. that they should be moving out ahead of doughty imo.
- Tumbleweed

Agreed! They'll have to pay a huge price for a salery dump!And brown could go to Vegas for a 1st and other picks /prospects? And maybe another player? ..Muzzin ?

Would be kinda cool if they do get Vats..

Rielly - CAN
Gards - USA
Zaits - RUS
Vats - FIN
Liljegren - SWE

A melting pot on d.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

need a czech or slovak for #6

need a czech or slovak for #6
- BestRapperAlive

Don't you (frank)in dare suggest polak

To much at this point! he'd be our highest paid dman! I don't see it happening! Imho
- MR.Hunter

(frank) him then.

Didn't even think about that....good point.

But, top pairing guys get paid, especially by other GMs. Not sure we can set the salary bar at Rielly money. If we can fill that hole, the chances are the players salary is going to be set by the other team's GM already, not ours.
- underhill14

Ya he's not the guy unless Gardner goes the other way! Their looking for a LH dman and for the leafs it would be a bit of a sideways move?

Agreed! They'll have to pay a huge price for a salery dump!And brown could go to Vegas for a 1st and other picks /prospects? And maybe another player? ..Muzzin ?
- MR.Hunter

seems like this is what they're kicking the tires on. friedman was talking about gaborik for phanuef

(frank) him then.
- Tumbleweed

Ya frank him! ..

seems like this is what they're kicking the tires on. friedman was talking about gaborik for phanuef
- Tumbleweed

huh but how much does it really help the kings? ..well mine you they get some relief but ottawa would have to retain and LA might add a 2nd? Prospect? ..idk but that's a odd trade to say the least! Phaneuf would love it! And the senator's would be screwed for dman pretty much!

huh but how much does it really help the kings? ..well mine you they get some relief but ottawa would have to retain and LA might add a 2nd? Prospect? ..idk but that's a odd trade to say the least! Phaneuf would love it! And the senator's would be screwed for dman pretty much!
- MR.Hunter

once old man melnyk starts pushing for cost cutting, stupid trades will start happening again this year in ottawa.

What would it take to get Meyers from WPG?

Bozak + prospect?
JVR + pick?

or just straight up?

Hard to tell because he's been injured so much lately but I'd like him on the Leafs
- cracka

Alcohol and lots of blow!

Don't you (frank)in dare suggest polak
- Arctic_AARDVARK

marincin for 3rd pairing!...on the Marlies

I just don’t see the kings moving doughty. But sure, if he’s available, you make a strong offer. Liljegren, 1st, kapanen plus.

I think it’s more likely we can acquire a 2-4 year RHD stop gap until liljegren is ready.

Demers, barrie, vatanen, braun, Martinez, myers.
- Tumbleweed

I agree with most of what you are saying, except - the bolded. At this point one of the big considerations is contract situation. I think there's a strong chance that Doughty gets moved, but the Leafs should stay clear and this is why. He is only a rental for this year and next. If the deal is based on him signing I still don't think its a good move. It will be his second long term deal. If you look at NHL players that signed two long term deals in their careers, usually the second one sucks large (even more than Lums). When you are talking $10 or $11 million which he surely gets - he will be getting that through ages 35,36,37 and 38 and while its possible he will outperfom the contract the odds are stacked against it. It addition, Liljegren at years 24 to 27 will be in his prime, under control and cheaper. And there is a possibility that he will be better than Doughty at that point.

once old man Smell Sh!t starts pushing for cost cutting, stupid trades will start happening again this year in ottawa.
- Tumbleweed

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Wait till Karlsson wants to get paid. He'll sh!t the bed.

I agree with most of what you are saying, except - the bolded. At this point one of the big considerations is contract situation. I think there's a strong chance that Doughty gets moved, but the Leafs should stay clear and this is why. He is only a rental for this year and next. If the deal is based on him signing is still don't think its a good move. It will be his second long term deal. If you look at NHL players that signed two long term deals in their careers, usually the second one sucks large (even more than Lums). When you are talking $10 or $11 million which he surely gets - he will be getting that through ages 35,36,37 and 38 and while its possible he will outperfom the contract the odds are stacked against it. It addition, Liljegren at years 24 to 27 will be in his prime, under control and cheaper. And there is a possibility that he will be better than Doughty at that point.
- winsix

i hear ya.

i keep going back to jvr for vatanen mid-season as the move we make. liljegren takes vatanen's spot in a few years.

in the meantime, we just look to put up a 5 spot every night.

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Wait till Karlsson wants to get paid. He'll sh!t the bed.

- winsix

(frank) the sens

So, the Leafs shouldn't target Doughty, but they should try to get a guy who is far less proven and probably harder to get?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Doughty available?

Larsson cost Hall

Doughty cost Nylander & Marner or something crazy.

I agree with most of what you are saying, except - the bolded. At this point one of the big considerations is contract situation. I think there's a strong chance that Doughty gets moved, but the Leafs should stay clear and this is why. He is only a rental for this year and next. If the deal is based on him signing is still don't think its a good move. It will be his second long term deal. If you look at NHL players that signed two long term deals in their careers, usually the second one sucks large (even more than Lums). When you are talking $10 or $11 million which he surely gets - he will be getting that through ages 35,36,37 and 38 and while its possible he will outperfom the contract the odds are stacked against it. It addition, Liljegren at years 24 to 27 will be in his prime, under control and cheaper. And there is a possibility that he will be better than Doughty at that point.
- winsix

Yes exactly! ..except maybe the last part about him being better than? But I told my son's and a few friends before last summer that I wanted the leafs to hopefully finish last or second too! (Tank)if you will, one more year so they could draft Liljegren! When we got him at 17 I couldn't believe it!

Doughty available?

Larsson cost Hall

Doughty cost Nylander & Marner or something crazy.
- annoyed

no! Not that crazy! but ya it's just not worth the cost for two years of doughty! He's 2to4th best defenseman in the league but it's the money aspect of it mostly! 10mil×7 ! One trade that could maybe do is doughty for Draisaitl?

I would normally agree... but I do worry that we're gonna just lose JVR for nothing if we don't move him before the season starts.

I think he will become valuable for us as the season progresses and we won't want to move him at the deadline... and he will cost us too much to keep in the offseason.

He's a good movable asset that will be good where ever he goes even if he stays with us that would be great, but we might end up just losing him straight up.
- Bleedz_Blue

I agree not the best asset management, to lose any good players for nothing! But if the leafs are cruising at all gears and their looking amazing? ,and theirs a chance to do some playoff damage? Then go for it!

I agree not the best asset management, to lose any good players for nothing! But if the leafs are cruising at all gears and their looking amazing? ,and theirs a chance to do some playoff damage? Then go for it!
- MR.Hunter

agreed.

not selling jvr and bozak for futures and letting them potentially walk is going balls out for this year.

no! Not that crazy! but ya it's just not worth the cost for two years of doughty! He's 2to4th best defenseman in the league but it's the money aspect of it mostly! 10mil×7 ! One trade that could maybe do is doughty for Draisaitl?
- MR.Hunter

A new contract would obviously be included.

Regardless, Doughty would cost us our 2 years of stocking up on assets

agree, D trade market is poop, develop our own for now, gain more playoff experience next spring, sign FA next summer then make a serious run in 2019
- BestRapperAlive

Deal

no! Not that crazy! but ya it's just not worth the cost for two years of doughty! He's 2to4th best defenseman in the league but it's the money aspect of it mostly! 10mil×7 ! One trade that could maybe do is doughty for Draisaitl?
- MR.Hunter

That would be a good deal for both teams if RNH, Strome and Punjabi can take some next steps.