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Jul 10 @ 12:51 PM ET
I think that teams really should be taking media skills into account now before bringing kids into the NHL. Especially in the pressure cookers of the larger markets. Hearing that Sanheim has improved in that respect is a good sign.
I think that teams really should be taking media skills into account now before bringing kids into the NHL. Especially in the pressure cookers of the larger markets. Hearing that Sanheim has improved in that respect is a good sign. - dragonoffrost
So I just rewatched the Hextall-Nilsson slash for about the 8000th time, and I never realized that, a split second before the slash, you can almost actually see Hextall saying, "Okay," to the ref with his quick little head nod.
A local newspaper column this weekend erroneously stated that Flyers Development camp undrafted invitee Ivan Kosorenkov is an "overaged" junior in the Quebec League. The article added that a "rap against him" was that his stats were inflated by playing against younger players. This premise is incorrect.
Last season, Kosorenkov was of what would be considered traditional "draft +1" age for a player selected in the 2017 NHL Draft. He was 18 at the start of the season and turned 19 on January 22. This is NOT how an overager is classified. Few players are pro-ready in their draft-plus-one year, so Kosoronkov played with and against many players his age and older.
As a matter of fact, Kosorenkov would not even be considered an overager for the 2017-18 season. Although he will turn 20 midseason, he remains eligible to represent Russia at the 2017-18 World Junior Championships and, if the Flyers or another NHL team were to sign him to an entry-level contract, he would be slide-rule eligible next season (meaning that the first season of his pro contract would kick in for 2018-19 and would not count against the 50-contract limit per NHL team next season).
Lastly, draft-plus-two aged players are far from uncommon in any of the CHL leagues. It would be come 2018-19 in his case that the overager factor of inflated numbers due to playing against teenagers would be factored in taking scoring production with a grain of salt.
The Flyers 2016 3rd round pick Twarynski is an example of a CHL overager, since he turns 20 in November. But 17-18 will only be his draft + 2 season. I don't know how the Flyers view him currently, but I think he could be the next Dove-McFalls and go unsigned if he doesn't have a big season.
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Jul 10 @ 1:38 PM ET
The Flyers 2016 3rd round pick Twarynski is an example of a CHL overager, since he turns 20 in November. But 17-18 will only be his draft + 2 season. I don't know how the Flyers view him currently, but I think he could be the next Dove-McFalls and go unsigned if he doesn't have a big season.
I think they sign him to save face, and it's not like he couldn't be a cheap 4th liner/AHL player still, with good skating and G.R.I.T. After not signing the #98 pick, not signing the #82 pick probably isn't a good look. Twarynski is still probably better than DMF, and he'll have this year to show it on a good Kelowna team.
They were iffy low ceiling picks at the time at still quality draft spots, and it says something when literally every single pick after, whatever the round, looked better immediately and proved it the following year. They always stood out instantly as big, lower skilled, future 4th line picks without much room to grow, so no surprise. Curiously, I don't think they took a single one of those this year with 9 picks. In those spots they took a high upside, sleeper goalie.......a terrible skater with excellent IQ and good hands and scoring ability......and a player buried on a deep team, again believing in upside. They didn't do it in 2014 either, but they only had 6 picks. But they'll sign him still; I'd bet on it.
I think that teams really should be taking media skills into account now before bringing kids into the NHL. Especially in the pressure cookers of the larger markets. Hearing that Sanheim has improved in that respect is a good sign. - dragonoffrost
All prospects should be required to attend the Chris Pronger School for Media Relations. Courses include:
Staring the Morons Down
Eye Rolling 101
Snarkiness as an Art Form
How to Nicely Tell One to go (frank) Themselves
Calling an Idiot an Idiot
I think they sign him to save face, and it's not like he couldn't be a cheap 4th liner/AHL player still, with good skating and G.R.I.T. After not signing the #98 pick, not signing the #82 pick probably isn't a good look. Twarynski is still probably better than DMF, and he'll have this year to show it on a good Kelowna team.
They were iffy low ceiling picks at the time at still quality draft spots, and it says something when literally every single pick after, whatever the round, looked better immediately and proved it the following year. They always stood out instantly as big, lower skilled, future 4th line picks without much room to grow, so no surprise. Curiously, I don't think they took a single one of those this year with 9 picks. In those spots they took a high upside, sleeper goalie.......a terrible skater with excellent IQ and good hands and scoring ability......and a player buried on a deep team, again believing in upside. They didn't do it in 2014 either, but they only had 6 picks. But they'll sign him still; I'd bet on it. - Mononoke
I think they sign him to save face, and it's not like he couldn't be a cheap 4th liner/AHL player still, with good skating and G.R.I.T. After not signing the #98 pick, not signing the #82 pick probably isn't a good look. Twarynski is still probably better than DMF, and he'll have this year to show it on a good Kelowna team.
They were iffy low ceiling picks at the time at still quality draft spots, and it says something when literally every single pick after, whatever the round, looked better immediately and proved it the following year. They always stood out instantly as big, lower skilled, future 4th line picks without much room to grow, so no surprise. Curiously, I don't think they took a single one of those this year with 9 picks. In those spots they took a high upside, sleeper goalie.......a terrible skater with excellent IQ and good hands and scoring ability......and a player buried on a deep team, again believing in upside. They didn't do it in 2014 either, but they only had 6 picks. But they'll sign him still; I'd bet on it. - Mononoke
Hextall and the Flyers aren't going to make any player decisions to save face or due to any optics They don't give a rat's hoot about any of that.
I think they sign him to save face, and it's not like he couldn't be a cheap 4th liner/AHL player still, with good skating and G.R.I.T. After not signing the #98 pick, not signing the #82 pick probably isn't a good look. Twarynski is still probably better than DMF, and he'll have this year to show it on a good Kelowna team.
They were iffy low ceiling picks at the time at still quality draft spots, and it says something when literally every single pick after, whatever the round, looked better immediately and proved it the following year. They always stood out instantly as big, lower skilled, future 4th line picks without much room to grow, so no surprise. Curiously, I don't think they took a single one of those this year with 9 picks. In those spots they took a high upside, sleeper goalie.......a terrible skater with excellent IQ and good hands and scoring ability......and a player buried on a deep team, again believing in upside. They didn't do it in 2014 either, but they only had 6 picks. But they'll sign him still; I'd bet on it. - Mononoke
I don't know if they need to save face. If they find a guy like Korsorekov as a camp invite why do they need to save face. things happen. Kids don't pan out. it happens. Your trying to project 16-17-18-19 year olds.