Based on what has been said and read on this board over the summer
I believe they tried to move Crawford at the draft last spring to Calgary and he nixed the deal. So we'll see what happens this time around.
- DK002

Crawford is likely to go....you trade from strength. They have a NHL caliber #1 goalie waiting in Darling. They don't have a top 4 D man who can do what Seabrook does for those who want to banish him off the island.

The net savings in what you get from Crawford vs Darling and a 1st round pick and announce the signing of Darling at the draft would ease the fall out.......especially announced on a weekend, where you figure the Cubs will story have the top lead for paper and TV.

Love the rumor updates JJ. Keep it up!!!!!

Wow. Hard to figure Stan stopping all chats regarding Duchene with the mention of Hartman. Personally, Hartman alone, Hartman and a 2nd or 3rd, Hartman and a lower end prospect. I would probably do. Duchene would be such an addition, a real GAME CHANGER.

It must be that Sakic wanted several other picks and parts in ADDITION to Hartman. If not, I just don't get it. Hartman has been impressive...Hartman MAY turn out to be a nice player in the long term. BUT....in NO WAY is Hartman the better player in your lineup for the next 2 months+

If Stan shut it down at the mere mention of Hartman......I am not happy....


- hawk35

I could see Sakic wanting something like Hartman, Forsling, Kempny and a 2018 1st round pick for Duchene. Can't do it. This team would get old real quick. If I'm Stan, I try to get Eaves and/or Boyle without overpaying. The D is fine, Q just needs to settle on the right pairings (2 and 7 to start with).

I agree, I cannot see Hjlamarsson ever being traded. A professional advanced analytics guy that i was talking to a little while ago had him listed as a huge outlier (on the good side) in his stats. Basically saying that his defensive capabilities are insanely good. His offensive capabilities are on the much lower end of the spectrum.
- TheCyto

Always close to or at the top of the league in blocked shots...Hammer's not going anywhere.

I like the idea of Eaves/Oduya...


Be interesting also if you get JO back here that would really give the Hawks the extra defensive depth they need. You could play soupy at #6 with TVR or Kempny...Oduya fits the system like a glove. I still think if they had him last spring they make a real run.

Wonder what Nill will want this time...? And what Stan would be willing to offer?

Crawford is likely to go....you trade from strength. They have a NHL caliber #1 goalie waiting in Darling. They don't have a top 4 D man who can do what Seabrook does for those who want to banish him off the island.

The net savings in what you get from Crawford vs Darling and a 1st round pick and announce the signing of Darling at the draft would ease the fall out.......especially announced on a weekend, where you figure the Cubs will story have the top lead for paper and TV.
- SteveRain

The goalie situation will have to be figured out before the expansion draft, or else Darling could be nabbed by Vegas...

UPDATE:

Hawks and Dallas did talk this AM. Eaves, Oduya. Not sure if that's "and" or "or." No Sharp as of yet.

More coming.
- John Jaeckel

Yeah buddy!!!!

Crawford is likely to go....you trade from strength. They have a NHL caliber #1 goalie waiting in Darling. They don't have a top 4 D man who can do what Seabrook does for those who want to banish him off the island.

The net savings in what you get from Crawford vs Darling and a 1st round pick and announce the signing of Darling at the draft would ease the fall out.......especially announced on a weekend, where you figure the Cubs will story have the top lead for paper and TV.
- SteveRain

Hey Rainman...completely agree...Darling will be your starter - will take a bit less to stay home. We've seen Sharp, Shaw and Saad moved. This is just another deal that has to be made because of the cap. Question will be who takes him.

The goalie situation will have to be figured out before the expansion draft, or else Darling could be nabbed by Vegas...
- ToewsdNKanefusd

EDIT: Nevermind, he isn't resigned yet, but if they do resign Darling, then look for Crawford to be traded right before the expansion draft.

I could see Sakic wanting something like Hartman, Forsling, Kempny and a 2018 1st round pick for Duchene. Can't do it. This team would get old real quick. If I'm Stan, I try to get Eaves and/or Boyle without overpaying. The D is fine, Q just needs to settle on the right pairings (2 and 7 to start with).
- hawks2010

Agreed on the pairings. And with Dutch, it's all about money and how long he will stick around. Definitely complicates things financially... but seems like it's plausible. I'm a big proponent of #38 and think he can score 20 goals going forward in his career. I thought JJ said it best a few blogs ago. A "Marchand-lite" is someone you don't just ship off. Considering he can be cost controlled for at least 3-4 years.

Always close to or at the top of the league in blocked shots...Hammer's not going anywhere.

I like the idea of Eaves/Oduya...


Be interesting also if you get JO back here that would really give the Hawks the extra defensive depth they need. You could play soupy at #6 with TVR or Kempny...Oduya fits the system like a glove. I still think if they had him last spring they make a real run.

Wonder what Nill will want this time...? And what Stan would be willing to offer?
- DK002

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Agreed on the pairings. And with Dutch, it's all about money and how long he will stick around. Definitely complicates things financially... but seems like it's plausible. I'm a big proponent of #38 and think he can score 20 goals going forward in his career. I thought JJ said it best a few blogs ago. A "Marchand-lite" is someone you don't just ship off. Considering he can be cost controlled for at least 3-4 years.
- 93Joe

The new Bettman league, ("this is a WAY BETTER NHL now", just ask me he says) is so different for so many reasons but the #1 has to be the fact that talent alone isn't enough anymore, you have to put the financial jigsaw puzzle together. Good players on their ELC are "worth" more than their talent and guys with talent but lousy contracts are "worth" less in this new era. Harder for GM's for sure.

Agreed on the pairings. And with Dutch, it's all about money and how long he will stick around. Definitely complicates things financially... but seems like it's plausible. I'm a big proponent of #38 and think he can score 20 goals going forward in his career. I thought JJ said it best a few blogs ago. A "Marchand-lite" is someone you don't just ship off. Considering he can be cost controlled for at least 3-4 years.
- 93Joe

I believe it was SimpleJack who talked about the bottom-6 needing guys who can net 20 goals and 30-40 points a year to help the team achieve depth scoring. Hartman and Panik are on good trajectories to fit the bill. Then players like Hinostroza and Kero have the potential to get 15 goals apiece and around 30 points (not this season but next year possibly). If this all plays out, that's pretty good bottom-6 offense. Add a guy like Boyle and/or Eaves and that's a definite plus.

Did Hanzal and depth defenseman deal fall through?
- 93Joe

Have not heard. Would think those are still viable.

I believe it was SimpleJack who talked about the bottom-6 needing guys who can net 20 goals and 30-40 points a year to help the team achieve depth scoring. Hartman and Panik are on good trajectories to fit the bill. Then players like Hinostroza and Kero have the potential to get 15 goals apiece and around 30 points (not this season but next year possibly). If this all plays out, that's pretty good bottom-6 offense. Add a guy like Boyle and/or Eaves and that's a definite plus.
- AEL_Fox

Hard to argue with the sentiment but last year exactly 100 forwards scored 20 goals or 3.3 per team. I would say with about 90% certainty that any team considers a forward who scores 20 goals a top 6 guy, not a bottom 6 one. Of course, if a bottom 6 guy was scoring that well, he'd most likely be moved to a top 6 line anyway.

Eaves is not going to come "cheap".

Remember the price tag that the 'Hawks paid for Weiss and Fleischmann? They gave up Danault and a 2nd round pick for two players who had <30 points at the TDL. One of whom was having a career season as a career 3rd liner and the other barely making the team as a training camp body.

Eaves too is having a career season but he's shown the ability to skate in the top-six as he's playing on Benn's line.

An incredibly cheap, expiring contract, coupled with the fact that there will be plenty of suitors for Eaves for teams not wanting to blow up their farm for a bigger name. Not to mention, Dallas is a rival so they won't be doing the 'Hawks any favors in any trades. All that equates to the 'Hawks needing to overpay and give up a young kid that they wouldn't want to otherwise.

JJ,

Think they would entertain Roussel in any trades with Dallas?
He's a LW and brings a lot of sandpaper.

JJ,

Think they would entertain Roussel in any trades with Dallas?
He's a LW and brings a lot of sandpaper.
- Hawkster

I would . If nothing better is panning out

Eaves is not going to come "cheap".

Remember the price tag that the 'Hawks paid for Weiss and Fleischmann? They gave up Danault and a 2nd round pick for two players who had <30 points at the TDL. One of whom was having a career season as a career 3rd liner and the other barely making the team as a training camp body.

Eaves too is having a career season but he's shown the ability to skate in the top-six as he's playing on Benn's line.

An incredibly cheap, expiring contract, coupled with the fact that there will be plenty of suitors for Eaves for teams not wanting to blow up their farm for a bigger name. Not to mention, Dallas is a rival so they won't be doing the 'Hawks any favors in any trades. All that equates to the 'Hawks needing to overpay and give up a young kid that they wouldn't want to otherwise.
- TommyHawk

I'll say it again...when looking for depth rental, Boyle should be the #1 target.

Not bad in terms of lines today.

Schmaltz-Toews-Panik
Panarin-Anisimov-Kane
Hartman-Kero-Hossa
Rasmussen-Kruger-Desjardins

Schmaltz - Toews - Panik have been fairly effective and I do like Hartman-Kero-Hossa from a secondary scoring perspective.

Overall, I like this better than last year where we saw varying degrees of Garbutt, Mashinter, Bickell, Weise, Tikhonov, Sekac...

The Hawks may still need a 2LW but the secondary scoring is stronger on paper right now. I'd argue the need for a top 6 LW isn't as great as it was last year as scoring have been a bit more balanced.

Hammer or even younger Forsling. Hammer is needed for our run THIS year. Moving him would be risky. Forsling would be the one I'd think the Avs would want. We haven nothing else much at Defense in terms of prospects. Pokka is our "#1 D" right now and I'd love to move him in a Duchene deal, but he's not that good and Sakic can't be that dumb.
- kwolf68

Carolina can beat that deal. IF the Avs move Duchene they are going rebuild mode.
Hjalmarsson doesn't fit. He will be/is 29 with a lot of miles on him. Forsling, while a nice prospect, is far from established as a NHL player. Carolina has so much depth on the back end they can dangle Faulk for Duchene. Not to mention they have some nice forward prospects in their system.

Eaves is not going to come "cheap".

Remember the price tag that the 'Hawks paid for Weiss and Fleischmann? They gave up Danault and a 2nd round pick for two players who had <30 points at the TDL. One of whom was having a career season as a career 3rd liner and the other barely making the team as a training camp body.

Eaves too is having a career season but he's shown the ability to skate in the top-six as he's playing on Benn's line.

An incredibly cheap, expiring contract, coupled with the fact that there will be plenty of suitors for Eaves for teams not wanting to blow up their farm for a bigger name. Not to mention, Dallas is a rival so they won't be doing the 'Hawks any favors in any trades. All that equates to the 'Hawks needing to overpay and give up a young kid that they wouldn't want to otherwise.
- TommyHawk

If he ain't gonna come cheap, I'd say don't trade for him. No reason to pay too much for a 3rd liner.

JJ,

Think they would entertain Roussel in any trades with Dallas?
He's a LW and brings a lot of sandpaper.
- Hawkster

He and Burrows are two guys I would not root for, even if they wore the Indianhead. He's a cheap shot artist, not a "sandpaper" guy, IMO.

No thanks on Duchene if it costs Ryan "The Hartman" Kid.

So.....Bowman says and spins for all the grandstanders and all the Hawks media puppets how he won't make a trade.........or won't likely make a trade......yet why oh why is Vinnie and Forsling still down in Rockford? Could it be to bank........gasp.........additional cap space whenever, and wherever they can? And why would THAT be so important for a team up against the cap......I just can't figure it out.........

Truly amazing reading some posts of everyone in such STRONG belief the Hawks aren't making a trade because the John McDonough express told you it won't. Please.....don't buy everything he sells. An organization NOT afraid to pimp some BS Soup n Sandwich satire, yet on a serious note #LetsTalk the marketing machine made ZERO mention of it all day. What a joke.
- SteveRain

With Rozy activated only on of the two can come back up. Either one of them would bring us right up against the cap.

hey we got some cheap d for sale....well...everything is for sale!!!

hey we got some cheap d for sale....well...everything is for sale!!!
- jmdodgeser4

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