Raven33
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Location: Jenn, stop copying me as I copy Garth myself! - Andrew S. Joined: 11.12.2008
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Well it's good we now know that our new GM is just as unless as BM - Maverick1818
Not sure it's the GM the issue, more cheapo Melnyk!
Would've taken Stempniak at only 2.5M per...
Not saying to sign the super big names to crazy prices but some would be good...And of course, what are they waiting for to re-sign Hoff & Ceci!!?? |
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WillieAA
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Location: Real Cool Breeze Joined: 06.22.2007
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Well, we missed the playoffs, and our goals against went down from 3.05 a whole 0.2 to 2.85 when we got Phaneuf, so clearly no need to improve while the competition does.
Other teams added quality while Cheapo.....added $17M from expansion to his pockets, or divorce fund.
#Sensseasonticketsgoneifnoplayoffsagain |
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WillieAA
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Location: Real Cool Breeze Joined: 06.22.2007
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Oh wait, I didn't notice Mike Kostka and his assist in 15 games is back! All is forgiven.
#tremendousexcitement!!!!! |
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Mr_X
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 05.14.2008
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I like the following pl ayers, some of which I think could benefit the sens...at the right price:
3rd Line Forwards:
- Jiri Hudler (possible 2nd when needed)
- Teddy Purcell (possible 2nd when needed)
- Chris Kelly
- Jared Boll
#5-6 Defense Role
- Seidenberg
- Quincey
- Schenn
I'd also take a flyer on Mikkel Boedker and AVOID Martin/Russel |
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Well it's good we now know that our new GM is just as unless as BM - Maverick1818
Hmm, what's the common denominator between the new GM and old GM?
An owner that is broke and provides them with no room to do anything.
Like I said above, Dorion was give 5 rolls of quarters to work with today. Unfortunately, none of the free agents so far have been interested to come to Ottawa for free. |
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Maverick1818
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Location: PEI Joined: 02.06.2015
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Hmm, what's the common denominator between the new GM and old GM?
An owner that is broke and provides them with no room to do anything.
Like I said above, Dorion was give 5 rolls of quarters to work with today. Unfortunately, none of the free agents so far have been interested to come to Ottawa for free. - punchanello77
While EM is certainly a problem. He isn't the only thing. PD is running this team exactly like BM did. Granted I personally think we are a #1 C and a #2LW away from really giving it a shot. EM has always said if the right deal came along he would be willing to go for it. But even small deals. It was reported a few times the Edmonton wanted Wier and they want to get rid of Yak, why didn't he do a Wier for Yak trade instead of letting him walk.
Reported asking price for Yak is a 3rd rounder or a prospect... not a big cost and could have huge up side.
Kane brings a big contract but he only has 2 years left and right now we could get him for basically nothing because Buffalo wants him gone... although we would have to watch him at all times.
Get Duchene and he would fit perfectly as our #1C and could get Hoffman to 40+ goals.
Brayden Schenn is looking like he is going to need a contract and Philly might not be able to pay
there are lots of options and moves to be made but same as BM he is unwilling to do so. This team has been horrible for the last two years and yet they still keep saying the same crap..... we're in a good place and we have some young guys coming up. We could contend this year or next year.... BS
This team will never get another shot at the cup until we get a GM that is willing to build a team for it |
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Sens weren't going to sign any of the big names out there. No need to get worried about that. Would be nice to get a young player with a little upside for low cost, but really, most of those guys usually flop.
I'm a little concerned with lack of progress with Hoffman and Ceci. Get those deals done and then start to look at reinforcements. Hard to do much when you don't know if a Hoffman will be in the lineup or not. Like if we have to deal out Hoffman, maybe we could have been a bigger player for Okoposo.
There isn't a lot of attractive pieces on the free agent list really. Dorian needs to make a trade in all likelihood to improve this team. We saw what happens when this team doesn't make any moves last summer. I'm a firm believer you need to have a little roster shakeup once in awhile to keep players on their toes. Rejigging the entire coaching staff certainly helps in that regard. Would be nice to add a reinforcement or two for them to work with. |
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While EM is certainly a problem. He isn't the only thing. PD is running this team exactly like BM did. Granted I personally think we are a #1 C and a #2LW away from really giving it a shot. EM has always said if the right deal came along he would be willing to go for it. But even small deals. It was reported a few times the Edmonton wanted Wier and they want to get rid of Yak, why didn't he do a Wier for Yak trade instead of letting him walk.
Reported asking price for Yak is a 3rd rounder or a prospect... not a big cost and could have huge up side.
Kane brings a big contract but he only has 2 years left and right now we could get him for basically nothing because Buffalo wants him gone... although we would have to watch him at all times.
Get Duchene and he would fit perfectly as our #1C and could get Hoffman to 40+ goals.
Brayden Schenn is looking like he is going to need a contract and Philly might not be able to pay
there are lots of options and moves to be made but same as BM he is unwilling to do so. This team has been horrible for the last two years and yet they still keep saying the same crap..... we're in a good place and we have some young guys coming up. We could contend this year or next year.... BS
This team will never get another shot at the cup until we get a GM that is willing to build a team for it - Maverick1818
I'm not sure why you think Kane is moving. Part of the dynamic forward group they are building. I'd love to get Matt Duch but seems more like a dream than reality. I did hear the same rumour for Yak. Not sure why any team wouldn't do that deal. Maybe Edmonton was doing their usual "boy calling wolf" routine.
I'm a little frustrated with the lack of news as well, but there is still a whole summer to go. With that said, if a deal were to go down, it would have made sense for it to have happened already. |
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Maverick1818
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Location: PEI Joined: 02.06.2015
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I'm not sure why you think Kane is moving. Part of the dynamic forward group they are building. I'd love to get Matt Duch but seems more like a dream than reality. I did hear the same rumour for Yak. Not sure why any team wouldn't do that deal. Maybe Edmonton was doing their usual "boy calling wolf" routine.
I'm a little frustrated with the lack of news as well, but there is still a whole summer to go. With that said, if a deal were to go down, it would have made sense for it to have happened already. - Gord_Wilson_2.0
i'm just frustrated because I said this was going to happen when he was announced as GM. He worked with BM so he will GM like BM. We should have gone outside the organization for a new GM.
I 100% agree about signing Hoffman and Ceci and then bring in more. I also 100% agree about the shake up.
Look at all the best teams in the NHL... they usually make moves non stop and tweak their roster non stop.
Kane was reported yesterday and several times again today.
Duchene has been reported over the last week.
and Yak has been reported several times over the last year.
At some point something has to give for us to get a cup and we are not building for that... that is what I am frustrated about. |
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TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 05.07.2014
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I'm actually very happy Ottawa hasn't signed any of the big names.
One thing I've noticed is the increase in terms being given.
Ladd 7-year deal? Neilsen 6-year deal? Backes 5-year deal? Ericsson 6-year deal? Weise 4-year deal? Martin 4-year deal?
Talk about future buy-out candidates. |
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Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: PEI Joined: 02.06.2015
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I'm actually very happy Ottawa hasn't signed any of the big names.
One thing I've noticed is the increase in terms being given.
Ladd 7-year deal? Neilsen 6-year deal? Backes 5-year deal? Ericsson 6-year deal? Weise 4-year deal? Martin 4-year deal?
Talk about future buy-out candidates. - TheCalSen
I would much rather them trade than sign from free agents.... but I wish we would do something positive to get this team in the right direction and show a commitment to winning |
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i have no problem with them not doing anything today. the only guys signed today that i would have wanted them to pursue would be hamhuis and okposo. okposo's deal was fine, but i read that he didn't want to sign in Canada. as for hamhuis, nearly 4 mil is almost double what i feel you should be paying a bottom pairing guy......no no big loss.
i will be disappointed if they do nothing and head into next season with the same roster, but that being said i'm not disappointed that they didn't overpay for anyone today. okposo was BY FAR the best player available, and after him i personally feel it was a decent sized dropoff. anyone we would have signed today....especially considering the deals signed....we would have regretted for years.
can't believe that there were a record amount of $$ paid out today when you consider how weak the UFA class really was......especially seeing that Stamkos was already signed. |
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TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 05.07.2014
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i have no problem with them not doing anything today. the only guys signed today that i would have wanted them to pursue would be hamhuis and okposo. okposo's deal was fine, but i read that he didn't want to sign in Canada. as for hamhuis, nearly 4 mil is almost double what i feel you should be paying a bottom pairing guy......no no big loss.
i will be disappointed if they do nothing and head into next season with the same roster, but that being said i'm not disappointed that they didn't overpay for anyone today. okposo was BY FAR the best player available, and after him i personally feel it was a decent sized dropoff. anyone we would have signed today....especially considering the deals signed....we would have regretted for years.
can't believe that there were a record amount of $$ paid out today when you consider how weak the UFA class really was......especially seeing that Stamkos was already signed. - sensarmy_11
Realistically there's no way we would sign Okposo, unless Hoffman was let go of.
Hamhuis would be a good signing, but a bit pricey to play on our bottom-6.
I think we will sign one of Seidenberg/Russel/Schenn and hopefully but not probably one of Versteeg/Hudler |
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TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 05.07.2014
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I would much rather them trade than sign from free agents.... but I wish we would do something positive to get this team in the right direction and show a commitment to winning - Maverick1818
Yakupov is an interesting option. There is the "Russian-factor" though, which puts us out of contention. If you ask me, that's a very stupid reason not to trade for him. |
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Realistically there's no way we would sign Okposo, unless Hoffman was let go of.
Hamhuis would be a good signing, but a bit pricey to play on our bottom-6.
I think we will sign one of Seidenberg/Russel/Schenn and hopefully but not probably one of Versteeg/Hudler - TheCalSen
if the rumoured asking price for russel is correct, and ottawa signs him to that, it would literally be the worst contract ever given out by this team.
i wouldn't mind schenn and hudler as depth signings for reasonable $$ and even more reasonable term. |
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TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 05.07.2014
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if the rumoured asking price for russel is correct, and ottawa signs him to that, it would literally be the worst contract ever given out by this team.
i wouldn't mind schenn and hudler as depth signings for reasonable $$ and even more reasonable term. - sensarmy_11
Yeah I heard that. I don't think that can be true. He's a top-6 at best. No way he gets more than 4MM aav |
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Yeah I heard that. I don't think that can be true. He's a top-6 at best. No way he gets more than 4MM aav - TheCalSen
i think 2mil for him is an overpayment.....he's a terrible hockey player |
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TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 05.07.2014
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i think 2mil for him is an overpayment.....he's a terrible hockey player - sensarmy_11
Schenn and Hudler would be amazing. But I expect them to get snagged by the top teams. |
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I heard Melnyk had 5 people selling popsicles down on Parliament Hill during the Canada Day festivities.
Apparently sales were good and he has provided Dorion with two more rolls of quarters so that he can try to jump in on some of the remaining free agents still available! |
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Schenn and Hudler would be amazing. But I expect them to get snagged by the teams that have an owner with money. - TheCalSen
Corrected. |
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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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NHL D-men - Cap Hits:
1. Subban - 9.0m
2. Hedman - 7.875m
3. Weber - 7.86m
4. Suter - 7.54m
5. Ekblad - 7.5m
6. Byfuglien - 7.25m
7. Letang - 7.25m
8. Doughty - 7m
9. Phanuef - 7m
10. Chara - 6.92m
11. Seabrook - 6.89m
12. Giordano - 6.75m
13. Karlsson - 6.5m
14. Pietrangelo - 6.5m
15. Yandle - 6.3m
16. Green - 6.0m
Highest paid duos in the NHL (2017-2018):
1. Yandle/Ekblad - 13.85m
2. Phanuef/Karlsson - 13.5m
3. Josi/Subban - 13m |
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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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3 years ago the Sens had 2 young stud D-men: Patrick Wiercioch & Jared Cowen.
3 years later, Wiercioch gets a 1 year 900k deal with the Avs while Cowen just got bought out by the worst team in the NHL in the leafs.
I don't think Thomas Chabot or Andreas Englund will suffer the same fate in 4-6 years... but the truth is that young players need to be brought along the right way. In this respect, I think the handling of Drouin was perfect.
I don't blame the Sens for Cowen or Weircioch necessarily, but they could of traded PW before last season and the same thing with Cowen - although getting Phanuef (along with moving Michalek and Greening contracts) could really benefit the Sens.
IF MacArthur returns to 20G+, 45pts+.... and Ryan hits 27G; I think you can have a really successful year. $ 18.9M is too much to invest in these 3 players NOT to see them play big roles on the team |
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walshyleafsfan
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Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita Joined: 07.14.2011
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I heard Melnyk had 5 people selling popsicles down on Parliament Hill during the Canada Day festivities.
Apparently sales were good and he has provided Dorion with two more rolls of quarters so that he can try to jump in on some of the remaining free agents still available! - punchanello77
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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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I earlier posted about Phanuef and Karlsson.... but looking at Ryan and Phanuef compared to other long term signed forward+D-man combo - it's hard to argue that they have to have star like results or the value isn't there
Stamkos & Hedman = $ 16m
Kane & Keith = $ 15m
Forsberg & Subban = $ 15m
Parise & Suter = $ 15m
Ryan & Phanuef = $ 14.25m
Kessel & Letang = $ 14.05m
Tarasenko & Pietrangelo = $ 14m
Perry & Vatanen = $ 13.5m
O'Reilly & Bogosian = $ 12.6m
Duchene & E.Johnson = $ 12m
Bergeron & Krug = $ 12m |
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