Actually I found "Ihateallofu's" (Oiler Fan) 1st post on page 1 to be quite inciteful and intelligent but he/she got carried away a bit later.
- 67hawks

really?

I agree with JJ here regarding McKenzie. I've talked about it over in the Pens blog many times, that McKenzie, Dregger and the other "insiders" arnt the word of God in hockey. They are wrong just as often as they're right. I live in Canada and I see these guys on sport centre and sports net almost daily.

With regards to Malkin though; I think rumours regarding him frustrate Pens fans because this happens every. Single. Summer. Every summer since his first season with the Pens. People who don't follow the Pens closely saying that Malkin wants out or to be "the man". It's simply not true. He dismisses this every year. Genuinely dismisses it. After this cup win he posted a picture on instagram of him and Sid with the Cup with hashtag "best friends". He loves Pittsburgh and playing for the Pens. If he really wanted to be the "the man" would he actually be in Chicago with Toews, Kane or Keith there?.... No, he wouldn't.

Actually I found "Ihateallofu's" (Oiler Fan) 1st post on page 1 to be quite inciteful and intelligent but he/she got carried away a bit later.
- 67hawks

I was a little surprised at the response actually


Not from JJ readers. You gotta expect posters not liking what they see as some sort of outsider attack on home town/team/writer. Typical hb mentality. No stress there

But I thought JJ would respond with something concrete.
Really didn't try and and ruffle feathers too much.
Till the end...

The thing that is killing the hawks is the depth and cost of the core.

The hawks have 6 players over $5m (and an 7th on the way in Breadman next year). Those 7 currently cost $50m.

I'm not going to go through all the teams to research this, but I'll bet there's not another team close to that cost tied up in so few players. Just look at Pens, for instance. Their top 7 add to about $46m. The difference between $46 and $50m is approximately LADD (replacing a $1m Rockford roster filler with a $5m Ladd costs $4m in cap space).

This heavy commitment to such a large and expensive top end is killing us.

And we're discussing making that worse???

Even Malkin for Seabrook would make our core cost $2m worse than it is today!

All fan bases have idiots. They are usually the most active and the loudest.
- cap1681

Mr. funfacts support's this message!

Aside from a post that really adds nothing, it is one of the most attractive and cleanest cities in the United States FWIW.
- 93Joe

Not to mention the 300 murders and gun free zone that it is People must be falling from the rooftops instead of being shot

Wake up numbnuts It is the truth not fiction 300 murders in Chi year to date
- holeinone

So this means malkin won't want to go there ?


You connect the dots to your hearts desire bobo. I'm not interested in making this about towns or guns or whatever nonsense you're trying to sell

Wake up numbnuts It is the truth not fiction 300 murders in Chi year to date
- holeinone

Lol have you ever been to Chicago?

Guys, gotta get some other stuff done. Everybody play nice. Great dialogue so far esp. with most Pens fans.

As far as more "realistic" activity, I heard today could be a big day on several fronts for the Hawks because they now have a solid cap number to plan around.

I would def watch the Shaw situation. I think the two camps are far apart and Hawks can't budge so a rights swap could happen sooner rather than later.

Will check in later.
- John Jaeckel

Wonder if Shaw would get sent to a team like Anaheim for Manson and a pick or the canucks for A. Pedan and a pick. Figure Shaw plays the same aggressive style as both of these teams.

Not to mention the 300 murders and gun free zone that it is People must be falling from the rooftops instead of being shot
- holeinone

lol

Lol have you ever been to Chicago?
- Mr.FunFacts

he would be dead if he had been there (by his own logic)

anyway..........

Back to discussing Shaw, Ladd, and Crawford.

All fan bases have idiots. They are usually the most active and the loudest.
- cap1681

Every fan base has them - you are certainly correct. The great blog JJ wrote provides interesting discussion. Congrats on the cup win.

he would be dead if he was probably (by his own logic)
- martox

Please man, i just woke up.

To this day Malkin still can't speak proper English. His agent can't speak Russian. I don't even know how he could ever request a trade out. lol

really?
- DeflatedPucks

Which part didn't you agree with ?

Feel free to add something rational here...

Wonder if Shaw would get sent to a team like Anaheim for Manson and a pick or the canucks for A. Pedan and a pick. Figure Shaw plays the same aggressive style as both of these teams.
- ikeane

You actually wanna trade Shaw?

To this day Malkin still can't speak proper English. His agent can't speak Russian. I don't even know how he could ever request a trade out. lol


- DeflatedPucks

WOW

JJ: No rumors to be reported.
Board: C'mon JJ, get on the rumors, we're bored! When's something going to happen.

JJ: Rumor is....
Board: You're an idiot, a hack! You're sources are crap.

Reasonable response I guess. D@mned if you do, d@mned if you don't. I appreciate the rumors not matter how likely/unlikely. It gets us talking about hockey. Call me crazy, but that seems like something that should be done on a hockey board.

just for everyones sake ignore holeinone's, sammy and grinder47's posts. they might come from our board but are in no way like the other people on the board even though sammy has become better.
- martox

Most guys on the Pens board are very cool to talk hockey with

anyway..........

Back to discussing Shaw, Ladd, and Crawford.
- Crawford

Probably going to lose all of them

Hope Bowman has a of couple cards up his sleeve.

You actually wanna trade Shaw?
- Mr.FunFacts

It's rarely a question of "want" with these Hawks moves, it's usually a question of that ugly matter called the salary cap.

If Shaw wants north of $3M it probably would cost the Hawks someone higher on the depth chart in order to fit under the cap.

It seems like Malkin's name comes up every year... It's not a stretch to believe that other GM's would ask about his availability.
However Rutherford might be the most open GM in the NHL. He can't help himself but talk about what he's working on without spilling the beans. He says Malkin isn't being traded he means it. When asked about Fleury he said I would love to keep him but it's a business and he has to listen. My money is on Fleury going not Malkin.

Every fan base has them - you are certainly correct. The great blog JJ wrote provides interesting discussion. Congrats on the cup win.
- 93Joe

Thanks.

Like i said eariler, i don't doubt Bowman heard the rumor of Malkin wanting out and looked into it. I just think that it was shot down quickly by JR.

The "kicking the tires" rumor was blown way out of proportion.

JJ: No rumors to be reported.
Board: C'mon JJ, get on the rumors, we're bored! When's something going to happen.

JJ: Rumor is....
Board: You're an idiot, a hack! You're sources are crap.

Reasonable response I guess. D@mned if you do, d@mned if you don't. I appreciate the rumors not matter how likely/unlikely. It gets us talking about hockey. Call me crazy, but that seems like something that should be done on a hockey board.
- HawksHype