Trade that makes sense both ways IMO is Fleury and Pouliot for TJ Brodie & Klimchuk, plus Pens right to swap 1sts for 2017. Calgary also has several center prospects who could replace Klimchuk in that deal and have it make sense.
- Jpripper88

Trade that makes sense both ways IMO is Fleury and Pouliot for TJ Brodie & Klimchuk, plus Pens right to swap 1sts for 2017. Calgary also has several center prospects who could replace Klimchuk in that deal and have it make sense.
- Jpripper88

Wow. Calgary wouldn't trade Brodie for Fleury, DP, and a 1st let alone that. Brodie has one of the most valuable contracts in the NHL

Not to change the subject but since this is relevant now, apparently GMJR announced the team plans to qualify Bennett but not to qualify Shultz. I don't think either is really that surprising but I know many on here have had strong opinions about both options and as I said it's something that is relevant now.
- jaydogg1974

I honestly have no issues with the QO to BB, I know people hate him and bag on him, but the kid when healthy is a top 6 forward...just too bad he is more fragile than an 80 year old woman. Was his QO under a mil? I am ok with that, if it is.

So gonna snag what looked like the most reasonable offer from the Flames' blog... most of them called it an overpayment, fine, I will gladly scratch the backup type goalie they put in. We don't need a 4th stringer as a throw in on a trade (assumed Zatkoff is kept, which he would be if Flower is traded).

What does Calgary faithful think of this proposal:

To Flames: MAF

To Pens: Ortio, poirer, 2nd rd pick
- Kunit

Ortio, would be scrapped....

So their 2nd rounder... and... Poirier, a LW who can score goals and make plays. Seems to be weak defensively according to his analysis currently. Thus, the B prospect.

Talent Analysis

Poirier is a speedy offensive forward. He has great hands, an accurate shot and can make plays at top speed, leading to him often taking defenders by surprise. He plays with plenty of confidence in his abilities and seems to have a knack for creating offensive chances where none appear to exist. Poirier needs to continue to round out his game, especially improving his play without the puck. As he continues to get stronger he has added a physical element to his game.
Future

Poirier is among the promising forwards who will challenge for an NHL roster with the Flames in 2015-16. With a deep, talented group, he could begin the year with Calgary's new AHL affiliate Stockton. The Thunder are one of five California-based teams comprising the Pacific Division. Poirier has added some size and strength since his junior days and should fit in well with the other young forwards who have resurrected the Calgary franchise.

Wow. Calgary wouldn't trade Brodie for Fleury, DP, and a 1st let alone that. Brodie has one of the most valuable contracts in the NHL
- Victoro311

Yeah there is no chance...I think GMJR will have patience, if something good comes along at the draft, he will get it done...if not, you can go into the season with both goalies..someone will be a goalie away from a playoff spot 20 games into the season. Dallas and Cal seem like the most obvious places, so it probably won't be either of them, going by the track record of GMJR.

if dallas loses gogo and demers, i wonder if they would have interest in DP.

All this speculation of losing Murray because players with NMCs are auto protected. Expansion drafts in the past have had players with less than 3 years of NHL experience being auto protected. So this might not be an issue at all. Moving MAF should be a cap move not an expansion draft move at this point.

All this speculation of losing Murray because players with NMCs are auto protected. Expansion drafts in the past have had players with less than 3 years of NHL experience being auto protected. So this might not be an issue at all. Moving MAF should be a cap move not an expansion draft move at this point.
- Zac_O

I think it includes AHL experience too. If so, Murray will have 3 full years at the end of next season.

All this speculation of losing Murray because players with NMCs are auto protected. Expansion drafts in the past have had players with less than 3 years of NHL experience being auto protected. So this might not be an issue at all. Moving MAF should be a cap move not an expansion draft move at this point.
- Zac_O

They are charging 500 million for this expansion team. The owners have to give the expansion team from day one a legitimate competitive team. Most owners have no problem pocketing 17 million and losing an asset. This draft isn't letting you protect many players

Murray will also have 3 full years at that point

I think it includes AHL experience too. If so, Murray will have 3 full years at the end of next season.
- madmike71

It does include AHL experience

Yeah there is no chance...I think GMJR will have patience, if something good comes along at the draft, he will get it done...if not, you can go into the season with both goalies..someone will be a goalie away from a playoff spot 20 games into the season. Dallas and Cal seem like the most obvious places, so it probably won't be either of them, going by the track record of GMJR.
- Thorny

This offseason doesn't seem like we will get best value. Either tdl or after next season sounds like a better time to deal. Next years problem is you might only have a week or two after the scf to work out a deal. We gain a poop ton of leverage over this situation if the expansion draft rules require a full nmc to be auto protect.

If the best offer is only a 2nd round pick then I don't think I trade fleury now unless I have a Ufa forward ready to sign who I need the cap space for.

In fleury opinion he might prefer waiting to see if a better situation than Calgary comes up. I think Calgary sounds ok for him but maybe he prefers an east coast team. We don't need to win this trade but we should get some decent assets back....equivalent of two or three 2nd round picks in value

They are charging 500 million for this expansion team. The owners have to give the expansion team from day one a legitimate competitive team. Most owners have no problem pocketing 17 million and losing an asset. This draft isn't letting you protect many players

Murray will also have 3 full years at that point
- sditulli

Played one game in 13-14 in WBS. After next season he'll have 3 full years. But if pending ufas with nmcs qualify for auto protection why wouldn't a player who JUST got his 3rd year? If they are gonna argue the year isnt over yet it goes both ways on that. But then again this is the NHL we are talking about.

All this CGY nonsense makes sense only if MAF doesn't have them on his no trade list.

All this CGY nonsense makes sense only if MAF doesn't have them on his no trade list.
- sammy87

Or if he will gave waive to go and be the starter somewhere

I think it includes AHL experience too. If so, Murray will have 3 full years at the end of next season.
- madmike71

If the draft is in June the season wouldn't be over so he wouldn't have the full 3 years technically till the end of the season June 30th.

I think Calgary is overestimating their bargaining position because of the upcoming expansion. Don't forget you have another season ahead of you, if you dont get a legit #1 goalie you're not making the playoffs again.

Fleury will get a team like Calgary to the show. He has a very reasonable contract, he's still young and he brings experience and leadership from a proven locker room.

Ortio, would be scrapped....

So their 2nd rounder... and... Poirier, a LW who can score goals and make plays. Seems to be weak defensively according to his analysis currently. Thus, the B prospect.

Talent Analysis

Poirier is a speedy offensive forward. He has great hands, an accurate shot and can make plays at top speed, leading to him often taking defenders by surprise. He plays with plenty of confidence in his abilities and seems to have a knack for creating offensive chances where none appear to exist. Poirier needs to continue to round out his game, especially improving his play without the puck. As he continues to get stronger he has added a physical element to his game.
Future

Poirier is among the promising forwards who will challenge for an NHL roster with the Flames in 2015-16. With a deep, talented group, he could begin the year with Calgary's new AHL affiliate Stockton. The Thunder are one of five California-based teams comprising the Pacific Division. Poirier has added some size and strength since his junior days and should fit in well with the other young forwards who have resurrected the Calgary franchise.
- Guile

Says he's a RW.

Or if he will gave waive to go and be the starter somewhere
- Guile

What I saw in Fleury when he raised the cup for all of 5 seconds was a guy who knew his time with the Penguins was over. I dont think there will be a problem getting him to waive as long as he is going to an environment where he is the guy.

Says he's a RW.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Yeah... dunno where you get that. The prospect sites called him a LW, as does here

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...central/team.php?team=CGY

What I saw in Fleury when he raised the cup for all of 5 seconds was a guy who knew his time with the Penguins was over. I dont think there will be a problem getting him to waive as long as he is going to an environment where he is the guy.
- stackthepads

He's just like Malkin -- wants to be 'the guy'

What I saw in Fleury when he raised the cup for all of 5 seconds was a guy who knew his time with the Penguins was over. I dont think there will be a problem getting him to waive as long as he is going to an environment where he is the guy.
- stackthepads

His face, almost like he didn't even want to be there with the team celebrating... it freaking hurt as a fan watching him almost submitting to being gone after this season.

Yeah... dunno where you get that. The prospect sites called him a LW, as does here

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...central/team.php?team=CGY
- Guile

Hockey news and hockeys future both say LH-RW ... in all the highlights he is playing right wing...I dunno...maybe he can play both. I definitely want any winger prospect to be a LW though

His face, almost like he didn't even want to be there with the team celebrating... it freaking hurt as a fan watching him almost submitting to being gone after this season.
- Guile

yeah it was sad. but i can understand it from his perspective. he was a classy professional, but it still has to suck.

had to feel like being the ringbearer for your wifes new marriage or something.

Hockey news and hockeys future both say LH-RW ... in all the highlights he is playing right wing...I dunno...maybe he can play both. I definitely want any winger prospect to be a LW though
- YouMeAndDupuis9

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=143820

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/emile-poirier


I got 3 LWs to your 2 RW... but we might be better asking their board this


Also yes... the only prospect I am interested in (super good exceptions exist of course), are LW for this offseason.

Not to change the subject but since this is relevant now, apparently GMJR announced the team plans to qualify Bennett but not to qualify Shultz. I don't think either is really that surprising but I know many on here have had strong opinions about both options and as I said it's something that is relevant now.
- jaydogg1974

ofc they are not gonna qualify schultz. they can't cuz of cap. but they will offer him a ufa contract at like 2.5