ya he loved Edler! Just saying taking out Edler and adding Barrie makes the team offensively better, but it also makes them worse defensively. And they had one of the worst goal differentials in the league last year.
- LeftCoaster

It would be nice to have both

Deal them if the return is there. Over to you JB, this is a big off season for the team and people are not exactly rushing to buy season ticket memberships. #5OA isn't enough, no matter how you spin it.
- VanHockeyGuy

To replace Edler and Tanev with comparable players for what reason? You need to add to your best defencemen not take them away.

As for McCann, this is an organization that is pretty much void of any center depth that may be top six players. I don't think I'd trade him at this point until you know what you've got. #CamNeely

It would be nice to have both
- VANTEL

Yes it would, but they don't have the ammo to get it done IMO.

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- VanHockeyGuy

IMO they need another couple good drafts before they turn this thing around.

IMO they need another couple good drafts before they turn this thing around.
- LeftCoaster

If they could find a legit #1 D and a legit #1 C all the rest can be added on the way up.

I'd still take a chance on Chychrun.

Yes it would, but they don't have the ammo to get it done IMO.
- LeftCoaster

They have the pieces, will they use them is a different thing.

Yes it would, but they don't have the ammo to get it done IMO.
- LeftCoaster

They're not in a position to get it done. Creating holes to fill another.

If they could find a legit #1 D and a legit #1 C all the rest can be added on the way up.

I'd still take a chance on Chychrun.
- golfingsince

Almost every team that has those guys drafted them or they were in a position to trade assets.

Chychrun isn't the BPA at #5, that's the problem. To me trading down makes sense if you can acquire a second first round pick.

They have the pieces, will they use them is a different thing.
- VANTEL

To acquire Barrie? I don't think they do without making the team worse down the road.

They're not in a position to get it done. Creating holes to fill another.
- golfingsince

Yup...cutting off your nose to spite your face. Patience and build through the draft.

Almost every team that has those guys drafted them or they were in a position to trade assets.

Chychrun isn't the BPA at #5, that's the problem. To me trading down makes sense if you can acquire a second first round pick.
- LeftCoaster

I don't see too many trades down that make sense for both teams. Maybe the Habs if Dubois is available and you take their 1st next year......that's a big maybe however.

They have the pieces, will they use them is a different thing.
- VANTEL

You wanted the rebuild.......have to do it properly.

Barrie is a one-dimensional offensive player, and there's nothing wrong with that, but he can't do a lot of things Edler does, like defend against other teams best players or win puck battles down low.

You need players like Edler AND Barrie to win. I don't think there's a huge difference between the two when you take their entire body of work into consideration.
- LeftCoaster

...except Edler is a UFA in a couple of years and Barrie is only just approaching his prime at 24.

...except Edler is a UFA in a couple of years and Barrie is only just approaching his prime at 24.
- boonerbuck

All the more reason for the Avs to keep him with the rest of their young, upcoming team.

You wanted the rebuild.......have to do it properly.
- golfingsince

Properly yes. That doesn't mean 23 rookies on the roster.

If Canucks add a top 6 forward at UFA and draft Tkachuk or Dubois then someone becomes expendable. I won't throw out names of ones that can be moved because some will jump all over the name mentioned.

There is no top 4 Dman available in this draft that is NHL ready right now. If you want one it will cost. I don't think Aquillini will get behind another bad team with a horrible D.

All the more reason for the Avs to keep him with the rest of their young, upcoming team.
- golfingsince

...which was my point and original comment.

...which was my point and original comment.

- boonerbuck

I guess Barrie's salary demands are not inline with the Av's payroll/internal cap...

fwiw

http://canucksarmy.com/20...led-out-as-a-landing-spot

Properly yes. That doesn't mean 23 rookies on the roster.

If Canucks add a top 6 forward at UFA and draft Tkachuk or Dubois then someone becomes expendable. I won't throw out names of ones that can be moved because some will jump all over the name mentioned.

There is no top 4 Dman available in this draft that is NHL ready right now. If you want one it will cost. I don't think Aquillini will get behind another bad team with a horrible D.
- VANTEL

Personally I wouldn't entertain trading Horvat, McCann or Virtanen. Doing so creates another generational gap when the Sedins retire, they don't want that as Benning has alluded to.

If they wanna compete in the next two years, Sedin years remaining, they're gonna have to do it thru free agency and trading draft picks.

The Canucks don't have strength at any position, goaltending...nope, defence...definitely nope, center...nope, right wing...nope, left wing...nope.

Personally I wouldn't entertain trading Horvat, McCann or Virtanen. Doing so creates another generational gap when the Sedins retire, they don't want that as Benning has alluded to.

If they wanna compete in the next two years, Sedin years remaining, they're gonna have to do it thru free agency and trading draft picks.

The Canucks don't have strength at any position, goaltending...nope, defence...definitely nope, center...nope, right wing...nope, left wing...nope.
- LeftCoaster

I would think about trading Sven before those you mentioned


I think instead of giving up Bo JV or McCann and our first I would offer up Hutton and Sven ( add if needed)

I would think about trading Sven before those you mentioned
- VANTEL

Yup...I agree with you there.

Properly yes. That doesn't mean 23 rookies on the roster.

If Canucks add a top 6 forward at UFA and draft Tkachuk or Dubois then someone becomes expendable. I won't throw out names of ones that can be moved because some will jump all over the name mentioned.

There is no top 4 Dman available in this draft that is NHL ready right now. If you want one it will cost. I don't think Aquillini will get behind another bad team with a horrible D.
- VANTEL

Rarely is there a guy who can step in and be that guy, at least to start the season. Also, I wouldn't expect our draft pick to play in our lineup next season.

If you want to start moving pieces for guys that will temporarily get us into the playoffs now, expect to be bad for a really, really long time.

...which was my point and original comment.

- boonerbuck

So you are new here!!

Just so you know, we're here to build the Canucks regardless of how it affects the other team in the deal.

Rarely is there a guy who can step in and be that guy, at least to start the season. Also, I wouldn't expect our draft pick to play in our lineup next season.

If you want to start moving pieces for guys that will temporarily get us into the playoffs now, expect to be bad for a really, really long time.
- golfingsince

I don't think this years pick will play on Canucks this year. WD said a few days ago , it is very unlikely. I don't even expect JV or McCann to start the year on Canucks.

I do expect Boeser on the team in 2017 .

I do expect this years pick on the team in 2018

Barrie would not be a temporary addition.

Rarely is there a guy who can step in and be that guy, at least to start the season. Also, I wouldn't expect our draft pick to play in our lineup next season.

If you want to start moving pieces for guys that will temporarily get us into the playoffs now, expect to be bad for a really, really long time.
- golfingsince

If the 5th overall is on the roster next season, it's probably a pretty bad roster.

If the 5th overall is on the roster next season, it's probably a pretty bad roster.
- CubanBuffet

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