Bob Duff
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Location: Windsor, ON Joined: 11.10.2014
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Bob Duff: Datsyuk camp: No decision on future has been made
Dan Millstein, agent for Red Wings center Pavel Datsyuk, insists that while his client is contemplating a return to Russia, he's not made his mind up as to whether he will go home after this season or honor the final season of his contract with the Wings. |
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poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!! Joined: 01.24.2010
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Its always a treat to see Datsyuk play. |
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Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico? Joined: 06.29.2013
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EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Denver, CO Joined: 02.19.2014
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So not only is he jumping ship, but his full cap hit would be on the books?? Yikes. |
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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.27.2013
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So not only is he jumping ship, but his full cap hit would be on the books?? Yikes. - EnzoD
He's an Over 35 contract. |
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datswho
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: MI Joined: 05.25.2013
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IMO that rule should be for trying to get around the cap, as the wings and many other teams did, prior to the last bargaining agreement. If a player leaves to play in another league, rather than up and retiring, it should be negated. Either way, Arizona will be happy to take it on and not pay him. And we will be happy to go shopping. Loui? Steven? |
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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.27.2013
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IMO that rule should be for trying to get around the cap, as the wings and many other teams did, prior to the last bargaining agreement. If a player leaves to play in another league, rather than up and retiring, it should be negated. Either way, Arizona will be happy to take it on and not pay him. And we will be happy to go shopping. Loui? Steven? - datswho
Good idea, it should only cost you Mantha. |
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Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico? Joined: 06.29.2013
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Good idea, it should only cost you Mantha. - djamon
I have to say. you leafs fans sure do know everything about hockey.
"The Flyers were able to move that remaining contract, as well as defenseman Nicklas Grossmann, to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for forward Sam Gagner and a conditional draft pick (either a fourth-round draft pick in 2016 or a third-round draft pick in 2017)."
Cap savings of 5 million. and they didnt have to give up a top prospect either! amazing! |
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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.27.2013
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I have to say. you leafs fans sure do know everything about hockey.
"The Flyers were able to move that remaining contract, as well as defenseman Nicklas Grossmann, to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for forward Sam Gagner and a conditional draft pick (either a fourth-round draft pick in 2016 or a third-round draft pick in 2017)."
Cap savings of 5 million. and they didnt have to give up a top prospect either! amazing! - Jurco_28
I may have been exaggerating slightly when I said Mantha. But I'm curious what you think the purpose of the Pronger trade was. Arizona received a serviceable d-man and almost 5m in LTIR relief (if they wanted it) in exchange for a top 9 forward and a draft pick. Do you think it was done strictly for cap relief? |
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I may have been exaggerating slightly when I said Mantha. But I'm curious what you think the purpose of the Pronger trade was. Arizona received a serviceable d-man and almost 5m in LTIR relief (if they wanted it) in exchange for a top 9 forward and a draft pick. Do you think it was done strictly for cap relief? - djamon
At the time of the trade Arizona was also below cap floor. They got to move out 3.2 million in "real salary" and bring back a 5 million dollar cap hit for a "real cost" of 600K.
Detroit may be able to find a team on an internal budget to take on a big cap hit for zero real dollars. |
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tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Irvine, CA Joined: 06.25.2009
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"Never say never" means never. |
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datswho
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: MI Joined: 05.25.2013
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Please tell me mrazek will be starting |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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Done deal....he's a goner according to TSN. |
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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.27.2013
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I have to say. you leafs fans sure do know everything about hockey.
"The Flyers were able to move that remaining contract, as well as defenseman Nicklas Grossmann, to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for forward Sam Gagner and a conditional draft pick (either a fourth-round draft pick in 2016 or a third-round draft pick in 2017)."
Cap savings of 5 million. and they didnt have to give up a top prospect either! amazing! - Jurco_28
And TBH, I'm not even sure you can trade a retired contract. |
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jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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They allowed Pronger- someone working in the NHL offices to be traded. I don't see how they couldn't allow Datsyuk to be traded. |
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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.27.2013
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They allowed Pronger- someone working in the NHL offices to be traded. I don't see how they couldn't allow Datsyuk to be traded. - jfkst1
Pronger wasn't retired. |
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jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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Pronger wasn't retired. - djamon
He was more "retired" than Datsyuk would be. I don't see any way the league could possibly enforce this even if the wanted to. And I doubt they want to as this is in accordance with the owners' wishes. |
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SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Robidas Island, MI Joined: 10.30.2013
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Pronger is on LTIR. Datsyuk would be retiring. Very different situations. I am not sure if the league would let Datsyuk's contract be traded, but the two situations aren't really comparable. |
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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.27.2013
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He was more "retired" than Datsyuk would be. I don't see any way the league could possibly enforce this even if the wanted to. And I doubt they want to as this is in accordance with the owners' wishes. - jfkst1
Pronger has never announced his retirement so that he can continue to collect a paycheck. He stays on LTIR and is an actual contract that was part of a trade from Philly to Arizona. Datsyuk OTOH would be announcing his retirement in order to play in another league. It's a completely different scenario. His contract no longer exists, but his Cap hit would still be applied to Detroit.
There are very specific rules in place, it doesn't matter whether the Owners of the Wings want it to happen or not. |
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TwoPieceFeed
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: HockeyTown Joined: 08.13.2009
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Pronger has never announced his retirement so that he can continue to collect a paycheck. He stays on LTIR and is an actual contract that was part of a trade from Philly to Arizona. Datsyuk OTOH would be announcing his retirement in order to play in another league. It's a completely different scenario. His contract no longer exists, but his Cap hit would still be applied to Detroit.
There are very specific rules in place, it doesn't matter whether the Owners of the Wings want it to happen or not. - djamon
Yes, it does. If the team and Datsyuk mutually terminate his contract, this allows Datsyuk to play in another league without penalty. The only reason his contract remains applicable in the NHL is because he signed it at/over the age of 35. See: Kovalchuk. If this scenario plays out then the Detroit Red Wings have every ability to trade his contract that carries a $7.5 million cap hit with $0 to be paid out. |
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datswho
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: MI Joined: 05.25.2013
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Pronger has never announced his retirement so that he can continue to collect a paycheck. He stays on LTIR and is an actual contract that was part of a trade from Philly to Arizona. Datsyuk OTOH would be announcing his retirement in order to play in another league. It's a completely different scenario. His contract no longer exists, but his Cap hit would still be applied to Detroit.
There are very specific rules in place, it doesn't matter whether the Owners of the Wings want it to happen or not. - djamon
Don't worry. I'm sure stamkos would rather play for leafs than the wing. I mean, what's not to like there? |
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digitalbath
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Detroit, MI Joined: 07.09.2011
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Don't worry. I'm sure stamkos would rather play for leafs than the wing. I mean, what's not to like there? - datswho
I dont see stamkos signing with either
if he wants 10+ i dont want him anyway, a year or 2 of 40+ goals might be great but whats about years 4-7 at 10m |
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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.27.2013
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Yes, it does. If the team and Datsyuk mutually terminate his contract, this allows Datsyuk to play in another league without penalty. The only reason his contract remains applicable in the NHL is because he signed it at/over the age of 35. See: Kovalchuk. If this scenario plays out then the Detroit Red Wings have every ability to trade his contract that carries a $7.5 million cap hit with $0 to be paid out. - TwoPieceFeed
Yeah, I don't think so.
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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.27.2013
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Don't worry. I'm sure stamkos would rather play for leafs than the wing. I mean, what's not to like there? - datswho
And this is about Stamkos how? |
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