Players that we misses in their MOCK DRAFTS
- wiz1901

Gotcha, thanks

Skille??
- southernhawk

Same dad, eh?

Teams that don't spend to the cap don't care about the cap hit. So I think there will be plenty of teams who will want 81 as a part timer who can teach their young guys a few things about the 200 ft game especially at 1 mill a year.
- busmaster

Agreed, he is a great example/teacher, I think Hossa is 7.9 Mil next year, then 4mil the year after, then 4 years of 1 mil, What are the odds of him playing 4 years at 1 mil per versus retiring ? But as was said in an earlier thread, Hossa and Wirtz have probably already discussed and agreed on a exit strategy to the contract and we will be the last to know what that is

I think Hossa is the only one who's virtually 100%, because of his contract structure. One can never say never with anybody else. Kane back to Buffalo, Toews back to Winnipeg at the end of his career, anything can happen. I think the only three who have zero chance of being moved under any circumstances this summer would be 2, 19, and 81. Anybody else is greater than 0%. It's still a business.
- 333inthe3rd

It is a business and Kane sells tickets. They are not going to sign him to an eight year contract and trade him before the contract even starts. Its bad business.

Yeah, the person that took the swipe at me, that I am not a professional scout.
I actually take this very seriously and put all my love and energy behind it and my eyeballs are as good as anybody's and maybe better. I don't have a staff to gather intel like McKenzie Button, and ISS.

I stand by my results and they were better than any of these professional experts.

Shane Malloy Sirius hockey prospects radio
Four misses
Jansen Harkins
Jonas Siegenthaler
Paul Bittner
Jeremy Roy

Bob McKenzie
TSN
Five misses
Paul Bittner
Brandon Carlo
Jeremy Roy
Jansen Harkins


ISS

Six misses
Paul Bittner
Brandon Carlo
Jeremy Roy
Jansen Harkins
Daniel Sprong
Jeremy Bracco

Craig Button
TSN
Five misses
Jansen Harkins
Mitchell Vande Sompel
Jeremy Roy
Thomas Novak
Erik Foley


Corey Pronman ESPN

Five misses
Oliver Kylington
Jeremy Bracco
Daniel Sprong
Jeremy Roy
Filip Chlapik


Wiz on DraftSite.com

FOUR MISSES
Paul Bittner
Brandon Carlo
Jeremy Roy
Jansen Harkins


Take that MFs...my record stands by itself, averaging four misses since 2009...
- wiz1901

I said professional SCOUTS employed by the Blackhawks, not TV people or bloggers. Sorry wiz, I know you take it seriously and put a lot of effort into your hobby, but it is the scouts job (livelihood) to observe and make recommendations based on hours upon hours of scrutinizing talent from around the world. Their jobs depend on bringing back complete dossiers on everything these kids do and how they act. Sorry if you're offended that I put more stock into what they see, compared to you or those other people you mentioned (who are also NOT professional scouts.

Agreed, he is a great example/teacher, I think Hossa is 7.9 Mil next year, then 4mil the year after, then 4 years of 1 mil, What are the odds of him playing 4 years at 1 mil per versus retiring ? But as was said in an earlier thread, Hossa and Wirtz have probably already discussed and agreed on a exit strategy to the contract and we will be the last to know what that is
- bhawk1s

My guess...Hossa plays out his contract, unless a major injury stops him.

I would be stunned if he just up and quits.

Just for the record, it wasn't it me, it was the guy answering my post. I was saying i was disturbed because Hawks were drafting guys you didn't even have as draftable.

It truly was a DARK point on this thread!
- vabeachbear

I see what you did there
But please, point out to the class how what I originally posted was wrong.

The last two days probably cost the Hawks Richards and Desi. No way they can sign those two without having completed some of the necessary salary purge.
- Cmonalready

Can you please provide me with the upcoming lottery numbers as well?

Aren't you the guy that had the icon of Stan with 'Failed' stamped on his head? Obviously there no penalty for you for being abjectly wrong over, and over and over.
- KingB

You are correct....on both points.

The evidence is overwhelming that you have no clue.
- ArlingtonRob

Excellent Rob!

All they need to do is develop them.
- mohel

And hope Roy doesn't (frank) them up.

I don't get the worrying about Hossa? As of now he's paying next season that's all that matters for now. To dwell on the unknown is a waste of time.

who the hell does this guy (and his agent) think he is...and the sabres are dumb enough to give it to him.....i am sure the aves are shouting: good riddance of this tool

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...or-eight-year-64-million/
- bogiedoc

And to think that some find Sharp's 2 years at 5.9 too pricey...

Sharp's resume is still superior when compared with ROR... what a piece of work.

Good luck Buffalo....but after what Pegula has shown, he'll pay...and then hockey fans in Buffalo "will pay".

I don't get the worrying about Hossa? As of now he's paying next season that's all that matters for now. To dwell on the unknown is a waste of time.
- BetweenTheDots

(I'm not directing this at you BetweenTheDots)

Sorta like people thinking they know anything about what's going on behind closed doors in the 'hawks war room right now.

"Stan's a bum", "McEgo", "infighting in the FO"....jesus christ, it doesn't take long for the stupid stick to make its appearance once again.

(I'm not directing this at you BetweenTheDots)

Sorta like people thinking they know anything about what's going on behind closed doors in the 'hawks war room right now.

"Stan's a bum", "McEgo", "infighting in the FO"....jesus christ, it doesn't take long for the stupid stick to make its appearance once again.
- darkman

Ain't that the truth...

I may take a break from this site if the stupid spreads to others.

The one thing I noticed is what's going on up in Edmonton, with Chiarelli there and seeing what Boston is doing, outside of McDavid, driving the price up on Dougie, firing a couple of scouts, draft day trades very curious to see where this team is in a few years.

Ain't that the truth...

I may take a break from this site if the stupid spreads to others.
- ArlingtonRob

Amen brother.

The one thing I noticed is what's going on up in Edmonton, with Chiarelli there and seeing what Boston is doing, outside of McDavid, driving the price up on Dougie, firing a couple of scouts, draft day trades very curious to see where this team is in a few years.
- BetweenTheDots

There's no arguing that team has some talent. Personally, I'll believe the hype on McDavid after some professional games (really Hawerchuck???? "skates like Orr, thinks like Gretzky, and moves like Lemieux"....I'm SURE he'll be able to live up to those expectations!
)
I think they're still shaky in goal and D, but if they can add some pieces there, they may put a nice little run together.

Agreed, he is a great example/teacher, I think Hossa is 7.9 Mil next year, then 4mil the year after, then 4 years of 1 mil, What are the odds of him playing 4 years at 1 mil per versus retiring ? But as was said in an earlier thread, Hossa and Wirtz have probably already discussed and agreed on a exit strategy to the contract and we will be the last to know what that is
- bhawk1s

I'm 100% sure you are right. I'd also add that as a cap team the Hawks will have great use for every dollar they can spend. Hard to see them allocate 5.3 mill to 81 when he can no longer play 15 productive minutes a game. Actually the way I just said it its hard to imagine 81 ever not being able to play 15 productive minutes a game...

Get to work Stan!

Plz ban that oiler guy. F'n rediculous.

Plz ban that oiler guy. F'n rediculous.
- z1990z

Why?

Why?
- Oilers4Life14

Seriously, you need to delete that trash.

Wow? Is it trash because it isn't straight porn? YOU HOMOPHONE.
- Oilers4Life14

LOL.

http://www.allaboutlearningpress.com/homophones/

Thanks for removing it. Probably kept you from getting banned.

Ok so Bowman has two pieces he has to move, Sharp and Bickell. Moves Raanta. In the prime spot (Draft) to move those players for picks, does not. Even if you dont get what you want pick wise, you still move the salary and get 2,3,4 round picks etc. Alot of your team is built on mid round picks anyway. So yes I will give Bowman space to do what he wants and he is behind the last 2 Cups, but damn I dont see how the trades werent made. Bickell, yeah I can see a delay over possible injury concerns. Sharp!?! JJ brought up the Dallas thing a couple times now. Not all that great to move him to a Division rival, but the picks and a top D prospect coming back?
Sharp would have been a high priority for many teams. I just hope Stan didnt over think this and let deals walk. We need to move that salary... PDQ

Lets hope Stan has something on the stove.
- z1990z

You understand this was just a rumor on this website right? This was not like a reported event that Dallas even offered the Hawks anything.

Never thought I'd say this, but I have more faith in the market mechanism - but less faith in Stan's ability to "know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em" - and how to go toe-to-toe with other GMs.

Three Cups - I'll give him high marks for that (however much credit he deserves for the first) - but I don't think trading is a strong point.
- StLBravesFan

Great post. But where I will give him a "pass" on the trades is I think his hands are sometimes somewhat tied by the "organization."