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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 4 @ 7:49 AM ET
The Devils have a completely empty farm system. I almost wish their pick was a bit lower - I think it is unlikely that they would trade out of it no matter how much was offered to them.

To *some team around #10*:
- Isles pick
- Both our seconds
- Grigs

To Buffalo: #10ish pick

The truth is that at this point we probably already have too many bodies in our system (you're only allowed 50 contracts at a time) and tons of kids coming. Quality over quantitiy.

- Slump Buster


The offer could be tweaked depending on who is involved, but I definitely agree. A few of these kids need to be traded. In a year or two, I can see one of Baptiste, Bailey, Fasching or Compher traded as well.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 4 @ 8:14 AM ET
The offer could be tweaked depending on who is involved, but I definitely agree. A few of these kids need to be traded. In a year or two, I can see one of Baptiste, Bailey, Fasching or Compher traded as well.
- TheSabresTaco


I don't see any of that group moving unless it was to bring in a current top 6 forward. I think just about anyone else in the organization is fair game. I'd even be open to moving next year's 1 for a current NHL player (ROR or equivalent).
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 4 @ 8:16 AM ET
I don't see any of that group moving unless it was to bring in a current top 6 forward. I think just about anyone else in the organization is fair game. I'd even be open to moving next year's 1 for a current NHL player (ROR or equivalent).
- Slump Buster


The equivalent is basically an oozing pool of dumpster juice.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 4 @ 8:46 AM ET
The equivalent is basically an oozing pool of dumpster juice.
- TheSabresTaco



8 second mark
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 4 @ 8:53 AM ET
I thought the Patrick Sharp supporters have all ran for the caves. Again.....

Why do people think he's so great. How does he fit this rebuild? He had a terrible year on an awesome team. He's 33 and will be 34 mid season. The Sabres will highly..highly likely not be sniffing the playoffs next year. The year after, I see a finish in the 8-10 range. So let's say we make the playoffs in 2 years from now. Sharp would be 36. And we wouldn't even be serious contenders. So then, let's say, magically we are serious contenders in 3 years from now. That would make him 37 in the playoffs. So we've got a bunch of 20 some year olds, a couple free agent 30 year olds an Patrick 37 year old Sharp. Tell me where in this universe does that make sense. As a free agent, fine, sign him for a few years. I'm sure he'll be grossly overpaid. But to use a first round asset on him is extremely counter productive.

- TheSabresTaco

It makes sense because you want your young centers playing with veteran talent. I don't want Ecihel or Reinhart playing with duds like we have had in our lineup for years.

Sharp won't cost you a 1st either.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 4 @ 8:56 AM ET
It makes sense because you want your young centers playing with veteran talent. I don't want Ecihel or Reinhart playing with duds like we have had in our lineup for years.

Sharp won't cost you a 1st either.

- sbroads24


I think most people would be ok with it if the price wasn't high. I like Sharp but not at that age. That said, if our 2nd second would get him I'd roll the dice.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 4 @ 9:00 AM ET
I think most people would be ok with it if the price wasn't high. I like Sharp but not at that age. That said, if our 2nd second would get him I'd roll the dice.
- Slump Buster

I would prefer 2 guys a few years younger, but sharp would be perfect for the next 2 years

islanders second rd pick gets it done IMO
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 4 @ 9:01 AM ET
It makes sense because you want your young centers playing with veteran talent. I don't want Ecihel or Reinhart playing with duds like we have had in our lineup for years.

Sharp won't cost you a 1st either.

- sbroads24


Veteran talent can be free. Sharp's not exactly a team role model. I'd give Chicago the Isles 2nd for him. Anything more, he can go make like a tree and (frank) off.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 4 @ 9:02 AM ET
Veteran talent can be free. Sharp's not exactly a team role model.
- TheSabresTaco

http://patch.com/illinois...year-old-blind-girls-life
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 4 @ 9:03 AM ET
http://patch.com/illinois/beverly-mtgreenwood/patrick-sharp-and-blackhawks-help-make-best-moment-16-year-old-blind-girls-life
- homiedclown


Yeah, that. Did you take notice when Vanek and Roy went to the Children's hospital? Doesn't mean they're good veteran leaders that help guide the kids professionally.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 4 @ 9:03 AM ET
I think most people would be ok with it if the price wasn't high. I like Sharp but not at that age. That said, if our 2nd second would get him I'd roll the dice.
- Slump Buster

He has 2 years left, I expect us to compete for the playoffs after next season.

He isn't a must have player, but for a 2nr rounder, him playing with Eichel or Reinhart for 2 years might be worth it
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 4 @ 9:05 AM ET
He has 2 years left, I expect us to compete for the playoffs after next season.

He isn't a must have player, but for a 2nr rounder, him playing with Eichel or Reinhart for 2 years might be worth it

- sbroads24


If Patrick Sharp could be had for a 2nd rounder, he'd be gone from the Hawks a long time ago.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 4 @ 9:05 AM ET
He has 2 years left, I expect us to compete for the playoffs after next season.

He isn't a must have player, but for a 2nr rounder, him playing with Eichel or Reinhart for 2 years might be worth it

- sbroads24

kane-eichel-sharp
moulson-reinhart-ennis


you could do a lot worse for a top 6 then that

biggest weakness I see on that group is moulson on the second line
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

May 4 @ 9:05 AM ET
Yankees 16-9

Blue Jays 12-14

Yankees 1st place


Blue Jays Last Place


Move along nothing to see here
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 4 @ 9:05 AM ET
If Patrick Sharp could be had for a 2nd rounder, he'd be gone from the Hawks a long time ago.
- TheSabresTaco

off season, when they go into cap hell again

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...central/team.php?team=CHI
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 4 @ 9:06 AM ET
Yankees 16-9

Blue Jays 12-14

Yankees 1st place


Blue Jays Last Place


Move along nothing to see here

- SABRES 89

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhE4xRT4ujI

2 second mark
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

May 4 @ 9:07 AM ET
Karri Ramo didn't look to bad last night.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
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May 4 @ 9:08 AM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhE4xRT4ujI

2 second mark

- homiedclown

The Jays are still last
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 4 @ 9:09 AM ET
off season, when they go into cap hell again

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...central/team.php?team=CHI

- homiedclown


There will be a bidding war for him, especially amongst playoff contenders. And I'm willing to bet they'll pay much more than Tim Murray will be willing to pay. Count on it. He doesn't even come close to fitting the mold of this team when it comes to trading assets. If the Hawks are horny for 50th overall, then so be it. But it's just not realistic.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 4 @ 9:11 AM ET
If Patrick Sharp could be had for a 2nd rounder, he'd be gone from the Hawks a long time ago.
- TheSabresTaco

That's not really true to say.

This next season is when they are going to have to shed more salary because of Toews/Kane. His age and salary make him one of the odd men out.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 4 @ 9:13 AM ET
kane-eichel-sharp
moulson-reinhart-ennis


you could do a lot worse for a top 6 then that

biggest weakness I see on that group is moulson on the second line

- homiedclown

Agreed. I don't think there will be a good 1RW available this offseason that is young and fits the rebuild, might as well go with a stop gap like Sharp
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 4 @ 9:14 AM ET
Yankees 16-9

Blue Jays 12-14

Yankees 1st place


Blue Jays Last Place


Move along nothing to see here

- SABRES 89



I must've missed the announcement where MLB shortened its season to 26 games.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 4 @ 9:15 AM ET
That's not really true to say.

This next season is when they are going to have to shed more salary because of Toews/Kane. His age and salary make him one of the odd men out.

- sbroads24


Oh I definitely think he'll be a trade candidate. I just don't think he's being traded to this franchise. I'm pretty certain Murray is gearing up to blow his load on an asset that's 5-10 years younger than a declining Sharp.
SABRES 89
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May 4 @ 9:15 AM ET
I must've missed the announcement where MLB shortened its season to 26 games.
- Sabresfan-365

When are the Jays's have there Yard Sale ? should be happening soon.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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May 4 @ 9:16 AM ET
Oh I definitely think he'll be a trade candidate. I just don't think he's being traded to this franchise. I'm pretty certain Murray is gearing up to blow his load on an asset that's 5-10 years younger than a declining Sharp.
- TheSabresTaco

ROR will look good in the Blue and Gold wearing #90
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