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PtotheY
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 23 @ 10:11 AM ET
I honestly don't think the Sens have the pieces to make a deal that big. They basically can give up a couple prospects and a second round pick from next years draft, that's about it that we would actually trade.

They have quality, but can't afford to trade any of their quality - except Spezza, which you wouldn't want in a rebuild.

We could add Pageau and one of Prince/Puempel, and then maybe you remove your second round pick and add in ours.

- TommyDeVito


Of course they do. Its not even a question of if they have the pieces to trade for them, its rather a question of if they want to trade pieces for pieces, or pieces for picks
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

May 23 @ 10:45 AM ET
hard to say. adding stewart, imo, offsets taking greening. i think ottawa would more want to send quantity than quality.....there wouldn't be any zibanejad, lazar, etc going back.

assuming that neil is close to being worth a 2nd rd pick.....and assuming its buffalo's 2nd we are getting.....i'd probably include 2 good prospects and our 2nd.

prince, pageau, neil, greening, ott 2014 2nd

for

ehrhoff, stewart, buff 2014 2nd

- sensarmy_11

This is an awful trade for the Sabres. Stewart and Greening might both be disappointing players, but Stewart is the better player as he actually produces points. Erhoff is a very steady d-man and is by far the best player in the deal, by a mile. Neil is not worth anything close to a 2nd rounder at the moment, particularly for a rebuilding team. Buffalo's second is most likely going to be a pick in the early 30s. People love throwing Prince and Pag to "add" to the deal, but they are both middle tier prospects. Nothing Buffalo doesn't already have. One want's out allegedly and one had a hot game or two against Montreal in the playoffs.
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

May 23 @ 12:23 PM ET
This is an awful trade for the Sabres. Stewart and Greening might both be disappointing players, but Stewart is the better player as he actually produces points. Erhoff is a very steady d-man and is by far the best player in the deal, by a mile. Neil is not worth anything close to a 2nd rounder at the moment, particularly for a rebuilding team. Buffalo's second is most likely going to be a pick in the early 30s. People love throwing Prince and Pag to "add" to the deal, but they are both middle tier prospects. Nothing Buffalo doesn't already have. One want's out allegedly and one had a hot game or two against Montreal in the playoffs.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


Agreed, ridiculous ripoff for Buffalo.

this is what I mean about not having enough to get a deal done. We don't have enough in the prospect pool to entice Buffalo into giving up Ehrhoff, without selling one of our blue-chippers, and he isn't worth that.

We only have five groups of assets to trade right now:

1) Spezza

2) Nearly untouchable youth/prospects teams would ask for: Zib, Lazar, Ceci

3) Mid-tier prospects: Pageau, Prince, Stone, Hoffman, Puempel, Claesson

4) Crappy roster players: Greening, Neil, Phillips

5) Roster players we have no reason to trade and likely won't: Turris, Karlsson, MacArthur, Ryan, etc.
conor_smythe
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 23 @ 12:44 PM ET
You continue to embarrass yourself with utter nonsense.
- TommyDeVito


lmao

get a life
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

May 23 @ 1:36 PM ET
lmao

get a life

- conor_smythe


"99.9% of the time it goes to a canadian player"

Literally 83% of recent conn smythes have gone to non-canadians.

Maybe you should change your avatar, doesn't seem like you know much about the award.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

May 23 @ 3:34 PM ET
This is an awful trade for the Sabres. Stewart and Greening might both be disappointing players, but Stewart is the better player as he actually produces points. Erhoff is a very steady d-man and is by far the best player in the deal, by a mile. Neil is not worth anything close to a 2nd rounder at the moment, particularly for a rebuilding team. Buffalo's second is most likely going to be a pick in the early 30s. People love throwing Prince and Pag to "add" to the deal, but they are both middle tier prospects. Nothing Buffalo doesn't already have. One want's out allegedly and one had a hot game or two against Montreal in the playoffs.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


oh, i don't think it's a good trade, i just don't think ottawa would offer much more than that for those players.

i personally dont think buffalo and ottawa make good trading partners.....almost all their good players are either 30+ (and are guys they probably want a lot for in a trade) or are 19-20 (and are players they wouldn't likely trade)
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

May 23 @ 3:34 PM ET
lmao

get a life

- conor_smythe


quick, someone find a "take your own advice" meme
DrRecchi
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Currently being entertained by the asian lady mowing 8 inch grass with an electric mower
Joined: 06.29.2011

May 23 @ 6:36 PM ET
Travis Yost: Playoff Corsi% and Conn Smythe Trophies
- Travis Yost


No surprise there.

10 of the 11 most dominating skaters are on LA.
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