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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 22 @ 1:25 PM ET
do you think that YOU are a peer to Darcy?

i don't mean that to put you down.. i just think that he might think that way

- IndianaSabresFan



I was referring to ownership, and the answer is no to either one of them. I said when his peers (other owners, advisors, etc.) see him getting called out for the man that he has running his team, by not only the media, but the majority of his fanbase, in a public spectrum for all to see, it might lead to something.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 22 @ 1:27 PM ET


20 of these in the front row might help

- Buffalo-Sabres


and making yoru section have a sign that reads this for the national broadcast would help too lol

Is it bad id rather play softball tomorrow then go to the game
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 22 @ 1:29 PM ET
I was referring to ownership, and the answer is no to either one of them. I said when his peers (other owners, advisors, etc.) see him getting called out for the man that he has running his team, by not only the media, but the majority of his fanbase, in a public spectrum for all to see, it might lead to something.
- buffalofan19



I don't understand..... seriously...... If the fans feel Darcy is "overemployed" then they should yell their demands to the owner. In this case we want him fired and a qualified person put in his place. How is that embarrassing?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 22 @ 1:31 PM ET
I don't understand..... seriously...... If the fans feel Darcy is "overemployed" then they should yell their demands to the owner. In this case we want him fired and a qualified person put in his place. How is that embarrassing?
- rapperray



How often does that happen anywhere in front of basically your entire staff, in your home building, for the entire nation to see? I do think it would make a difference. At the very least, you will get a statement from somebody, if only "reprimanding" the fans for the behavior. At least now, you know you're getting to him.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Oct 22 @ 1:33 PM ET
I was referring to ownership, and the answer is no to either one of them. I said when his peers (other owners, advisors, etc.) see him getting called out for the man that he has running his team, by not only the media, but the majority of his fanbase, in a public spectrum for all to see, it might lead to something.
- buffalofan19

gotcha.. guess i should read more post less
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Oct 22 @ 1:41 PM ET
Season tickets are bought and paid for ,for this season. I'm sure many of the STH bought them thinking it would be a better than last year. They can't get a refund. A few pissed off customers that confront them will do nothing . but a whole arena chanting on national TV will surely get some attention.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 22 @ 1:44 PM ET
Season tickets are bought and paid for ,for this season. I'm sure many of the STH bought them thinking it would be a better than last year. They can't get a refund. A few pissed off customers that confront them will do nothing . but a whole arena chanting on national TV will surely get some attention.
- cabin



That's exactly what I'm getting at. I hate the fact that I even suggested it, simply because it's very close to mob mentality, if not exactly that, but at this point, it's the only answer to "what are you going to do about it" that hasn't been done yet.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 22 @ 1:48 PM ET
Season tickets are bought and paid for ,for this season. I'm sure many of the STH bought them thinking it would be a better than last year. They can't get a refund. A few pissed off customers that confront them will do nothing . but a whole arena chanting on national TV will surely get some attention.
- cabin[/
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agree
the whole tix guess what if someone cancels someone will pick up those seats. GUess what when thye become good again youll be in the back of the line watching the game from the plaza.

Other idea would be cheering for the bruins, everyone wear black and yellow
theduder6
Joined: 01.18.2013

Oct 22 @ 1:55 PM ET
Chanting "fire Darcy" just seems dumb. I think we have good talent, but they are just not putting it together, and that is on the coach. We have a lot of young players and he is the guy that is supposed to be able to teach and get the most out of them, and he is not doing that. I have no qualm with Darcy at this point. Yes he should be fired, I agree, but that is not why we suck.

The worst part is, all these "fans" want a rebuild. Start fresh, new young faces, let them learn blah blah blah. The truth is, the people that wanted this are the same people that are complaining and asking for Darcy's head. You wanted a rebuild, and you got it. Everybody wants the rebuild, but nobody can handle it when its here. Hell the sabres brass even told you that it would be tough, growing pains!! And people still cant handle it!
Pope of Pucks
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Miller's Dark Shadows, AZ
Joined: 08.04.2009

Oct 22 @ 2:03 PM ET
Chanting "fire Darcy" just seems dumb. I think we have good talent, but they are just not putting it together, and that is on the coach. We have a lot of young players and he is the guy that is supposed to be able to teach and get the most out of them, and he is not doing that. I have no qualm with Darcy at this point. Yes he should be fired, I agree, but that is not why we suck.

The worst part is, all these "fans" want a rebuild. Start fresh, new young faces, let them learn blah blah blah. The truth is, the people that wanted this are the same people that are complaining and asking for Darcy's head. You wanted a rebuild, and you got it. Everybody wants the rebuild, but nobody can handle it when its here. Hell the sabres brass even told you that it would be tough, growing pains!! And people still cant handle it!

- theduder6

A rebuild means you failed somewhere. Who failed? Darcy. Who hired the Coach? Darcy. Who hasn't fired the Coach? Darcy. Who has alienated the fans, buried prospects and pissed off the veterans? Darcy. The only one left to blame is Terry and you can't fire the owner. Why should Darcy get a shot at the rebuild? If he had done his job correctly we would not need a rebuild.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Oct 22 @ 2:03 PM ET
Firing Darcy is unlikely to improve the product on the ice this year. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.

Doing it 10 games into a season is awkward, and would lead to questions of why not do it last May. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. (I won't quit smoking today because I should have done it yesterday is a dumb excuse).

Leino/Myers/Grigorenko/Lack of solution at Center for 7 years alone is reason enough.
Punch70
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.07.2011

Oct 22 @ 2:10 PM ET
Kevyn Adams has been named Vice President and Director of the HARBORCENTER Academy of Hockey. Guess Pegula never wanted this guy to leave.

http://www.wgr550.com/Sab...rings-back-Adams/17586445
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 22 @ 2:12 PM ET
It started up in 310 Saturday, was someone wearing a sharks jersey. Best bet is to sit up top and get it going.
- jaumiller


That's my section. It will be started there again
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Oct 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
That's exactly what I'm getting at. I hate the fact that I even suggested it, simply because it's very close to mob mentality, if not exactly that, but at this point, it's the only answer to "what are you going to do about it" that hasn't been done yet.
- buffalofan19



Then suggest the opposite. Everyone just sit there quietly wearing Black. No Cheering, No booing. Full house that is dead quiet. That should make for good Television.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
That's my section. It will be started there again
- Stripes77


There may or may not be a gentlemen named hubie chanting it in 307
but there sure as hell will be an azz hole named hubie chanting it in 307



seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 22 @ 2:22 PM ET

Leino/Myers/Grigorenko/Lack of solution at Center for 7 years alone is reason enough.

- nfph


Those major problems definitely fall on Darcy...I think he got lucky guessing about player personnel after the 2005 lockout, because he doesn't have much of a track record since.
I honestly think they're scratching Grigo to tank on purpose. Even when it comes to guys like Luke Adam....He doesn't play defense, but he put up, what was it, 12 or 13 points in 14 games?....which this team DESPERATELY NEEDS. Who knows? you throw a line together of Adam/Grigo/Larsson or Girgs, we MIGHT have a decent 2nd line....But no, we need to make room for the veterans that don't play defense or score. I want to assume that all falls on the coach. Yet, some people have suggested that Darcy has his fingers in who plays and who doesn't as well.
theduder6
Joined: 01.18.2013

Oct 22 @ 2:22 PM ET
A rebuild means you failed somewhere. Who failed? Darcy. Who hired the Coach? Darcy. Who hasn't fired the Coach? Darcy. Who has alienated the fans, buried prospects and pissed off the veterans? Darcy. The only one left to blame is Terry and you can't fire the owner. Why should Darcy get a shot at the rebuild? If he had done his job correctly we would not need a rebuild.
- Pope of Pucks


I see your point here. This is Rolstons first year though. Darcy did not have much to go on last year, since there was improvement after Ruff was fired. My guess is he wanted Roy to coach the sabres, but he declined. Darcys prospects are good. I think we will be stacked in 2 or 3 years, but that is part of the problem. They are not NHL ready talent when they are drafted. What can you expect when you are always drafting mid round? Elite every time???I do not disagree that he should be fired, because he should. I simply mean it will do nothing right now. My guess is that if he makes it past this season, he will then be fired.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 22 @ 2:24 PM ET
Then suggest the opposite. Everyone just sit there quietly wearing Black. No Cheering, No booing. Full house that is dead quiet. That should make for good Television.
- RynoBull



That requires some pre-planning though. And word will get out and things will be done to try to prevent it. I look back to the Pittsburgh Pirates "walk out", where the Pirates themselves basically demanded that their media affiliates not even acknowledge that such a move was being planned. With the "Fire Darcy" thing, all it takes is some people in 317 (I think that's the section that has been doing it) to start it early, and eventually people will join in.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 22 @ 2:25 PM ET
I see your point here. This is Rolstons first year though. Darcy did not have much to go on last year, since there was improvement after Ruff was fired. My guess is he wanted Roy to coach the sabres, but he declined. Darcys prospects are good. I think we will be stacked in 2 or 3 years, but that is part of the problem. They are not NHL ready talent when they are drafted. What can you expect when you are always drafting mid round? Elite every time???I do not disagree that he should be fired, because he should. I simply mean it will do nothing right now. My guess is that if he makes it past this season, he will then be fired.
- theduder6



Darcy Regier didn't even consider any other coaching options. He admitted as much.
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 22 @ 2:28 PM ET
Chanting "fire Darcy" just seems dumb. I think we have good talent, but they are just not putting it together, and that is on the coach. We have a lot of young players and he is the guy that is supposed to be able to teach and get the most out of them, and he is not doing that. I have no qualm with Darcy at this point. Yes he should be fired, I agree, but that is not why we suck.

The worst part is, all these "fans" want a rebuild. Start fresh, new young faces, let them learn blah blah blah. The truth is, the people that wanted this are the same people that are complaining and asking for Darcy's head. You wanted a rebuild, and you got it. Everybody wants the rebuild, but nobody can handle it when its here. Hell the sabres brass even told you that it would be tough, growing pains!! And people still cant handle it!

- theduder6



OK... So here are some questions.....
1) If we are rebuilding then what is Talinder doing here?
2) If we are rebuilding why was Vanek not moved for draft choices or prospects?
3) If we are rebuilding why is Miller still here and why was he not traded for ...whatever
4) If we are rebuilding why is Grigorenko in the press box or on the 4th line with a couple of knuckleheads.
5) I can go on with more if you want me to....
My point is Darcy created this mess and he should have no part in fixing it. Yes we knew it would be bad but we also expected a team that would be competitive in games and not look like a very bad college team. Now lets talk about the coach. Who hired him? Now tell me how many people Darcy actually interviewed for that job. Darcy hand picked a coach that he could control and manipulate and a coach who would not make tough demands on him. So before you blast off on fans... double check the facts...... Darcy is dealing the cards to you from the bottom of the deck dude...
OnPoint
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 04.07.2007

Oct 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
This is the season that broke me. I'm done.

We all saw it coming. We really did. It was more than just writing on the walls. They didn't hide it. They told us to prepare for suffering. They told us to prepare for heartbreak. We all knew this season was going to be bad. They pretty much came out and said they're tanking for the number one pick in the draft. The Pittsburgh-Crosby model, if you will.

But to pretend that we're better than we are? To say that firing Darcy, who is now a proven failure, would be a panicked maneuver? Please. Our record points to the reality of the situation. And the reality is we're terrible.

They've spent the whole season now framing this as the BLUEPRINT year. They're going so far with the "rebuild" mentality that the team has been branded with it. So fine. We're supposed to be building something new as a franchise. We're supposed to be striving toward something fresh, strong, and eventually, a championship.

That's respectable. That's how it should be done. I can get behind that.

So why, then, is the same person who built the last several failed teams in charge of building yet again? If someone built a bridge that collapsed, you wouldn't hire them to build the bridge to replace it. They have a proven track record. What they do doesn't work.

It's been 15 years of collapsed bridges in Buffalo. And we're letting him build another one.

If the Sabres really want to rebuild, if Terry Pegula wants this team to compete for championships, if they want to stop the failure and actually create a winning team, they need to clear out the rotten wood, demolish the foundation and start fresh. Darcy being here is the antithesis of that idea. He is the one remaining constant in 15 years of regimes that quite frankly couldn't get the job done. And we're doing it again this year.

Enjoy the snake oil, fellow Sabres fans. I won't be giving them another dime until Darcy is gone.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
Then suggest the opposite. Everyone just sit there quietly wearing Black. No Cheering, No booing. Full house that is dead quiet. That should make for good Television.
- RynoBull



Cant boo they may be mistaken as Drewssss or shoooootz and if that happens we will see staford double shifting taking all the shots.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Oct 22 @ 2:30 PM ET
Kevin Freiheit: Worst season in franchise history?
- KevinJames


ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 22 @ 2:33 PM ET
Then suggest the opposite. Everyone just sit there quietly wearing Black. No Cheering, No booing. Full house that is dead quiet. That should make for good Television.
- RynoBull


Have you been to the arena, it's like that now? Your suggestion would be no different than normal.
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Oct 22 @ 2:33 PM ET
Idea

one year of ken holland
Tootoo(he can team up with john scott)
brendan smith

for

Vanek
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