Could be different this season, but I recall Garrison and Edler struggling together on the PP as 2 L shots. I would consider splitting up Garrison and Edler and partnering them with Corrado and Bieksa (or Weber if he's in the lineup). Could also try Schroeder there if he makes the team.
- KB3Point0

I like Edler on the left point, he likes to sneak down towards the net, and Garrison sets up at the right point for the one timer.

There is less likelihood that a team will match if the compensation is actually perceived to be of equal or greater value then the current player. So, first players like Tanev would never receive an offer sheet, it just wouldn't be worth it and second, teams wouldn't ALWAYS match an offer sheet.
- 1970vintage

I just don't get what you are trying to accomplish? I don't want lot's of offer sheets....get your own damn players!

Would be interesting to see if that would increase the number of offer sheets because it was more likely that the other team might not match, or decrease them as the compensation would be higher. As they could theoretically offer that in a trade scenario today and avoid the offer sheet altogether I doubt it would change things very much.
- KB3Point0

I think it would decrease the number of potential offer sheets on average players, but increase the number on exceptional players. Subban would never have been allowed to sign for so little IMO if other teams knew there was a real chance they could acquire him. What would teams be willing to give up in trade for a Norris calibre defenceman?

I just don't get what you are trying to accomplish? I don't want lot's of offer sheets....get your own damn players!
- The-O-G

Well then they should just do away with the whole RFA status completely.

Well then they should just do away with the whole RFA status completely.
- 1970vintage

Owners might give up RFA category after entry-level in exchange for contracts that weren't guaranteed.

Owners might give up RFA category after entry-level in exchange for contracts that weren't guaranteed.
- YeOldTimer

Oh, I'm not suggesting that players go straight to UFA...

I don't want to involve semantics of the CBA and who gets to decide what. I'm just saying that if the compensation was actually equal to the player being signed then GM's would actually need to think about whether or not to match.

Currently:

$1,110,249 or below - No Compensation
Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 - 3rd round pick
Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 - 2nd round pick
Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 - 1st round pick, 3rd
Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 - 1st round pick, 2nd, 3rd
Over $6,728,781 To $8,410,976 - Two 1st Round Picks, 2nd, 3rd
Over $8,410,976 - Four 1st Round Picks

I'm suggesting:

$2,000,000 or below - 1st round pick
$2,000,001 to $4,000,000 - Two 1st round picks
$4,000,001 to $6,000,000 - Three 1st round picks
$6,000,001 and up - Four 1st round picks.

I just don't get what you are trying to accomplish? I don't want lot's of offer sheets....get your own damn players!
- The-O-G

If there were no offer sheets allowed then the players would lose any leverage they potentially had other than playing in the KHL, Europe, or just holding out. It means players with RFA status get contracts that are more fair instead of being forced to take much less.

If there were no offer sheets then why would the Canucks offer Tanev more than $700k, knowing that his only other option would be to play in the KHL?

I like Edler on the left point, he likes to sneak down towards the net, and Garrison sets up at the right point for the one timer.
- 1970vintage

I like the idea of canons from either side, am just curious how it will actually work when in a game situation with them both being L shots. I'll give them a pass on last year's performance. Let's see what this coaching staff can come up with!

Owners might give up RFA category after entry-level in exchange for contracts that weren't guaranteed.
- YeOldTimer

So players would become UFA after 3 years? They absolutely will not do that.

Ian Esplen: Tanev Signed
- IanEsplen

In a season full of question marks for the canucks I think Tanev's play will be at the top of the list. I have no idea how he will handle a bigger, more responsible role. AV was excellent at protecting player's minutes (well, certain players) so they look better than they are.

Time will tell.

Oh, I'm not suggesting that players go straight to UFA...

I don't want to involve semantics of the CBA and who gets to decide what. I'm just saying that if the compensation was actually equal to the player being signed then GM's would actually need to think about whether or not to match.

Currently:

$1,110,249 or below - No Compensation
Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 - 3rd round pick
Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 - 2nd round pick
Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 - 1st round pick, 3rd
Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 - 1st round pick, 2nd, 3rd
Over $6,728,781 To $8,410,976 - Two 1st Round Picks, 2nd, 3rd
Over $8,410,976 - Four 1st Round Picks

I'm suggesting:

$2,000,000 or below - 1st round pick
$2,000,001 to $4,000,000 - Two 1st round picks
$4,000,001 to $6,000,000 - Three 1st round picks
$6,000,001 and up - Four 1st round picks.
- 1970vintage

I'm not opposed to your suggestions and think most people believe the compensation is too low for certain RFA's.

What I am saying is it's that low for a reason. The owners and players negotiated the compensation for RFA offer sheets and it's designed to help create more Vanek, Penner, and Weber situations. Those contracts were inflationary which in turn benefits all other players. The owners agreed to this in order to gain ground in some other area. Changing to your proposed plan would put more of a damper on such offers so the players would be expecting something else that benefits them in exchange.

I'm not opposed to your suggestions and think most people believe the compensation is too low for certain RFA's.

What I am saying is it's that low for a reason. The owners and players negotiated the compensation for RFA offer sheets and it's designed to help create more Vanek, Penner, and Weber situations. Those contracts were inflationary which in turn benefits all other players. The owners agreed to this in order to gain ground in some other area. Changing to your proposed plan would put more of a damper on such offers so the players would be expecting something else that benefits them in exchange.
- YeOldTimer

Yeah, like I said, not really interested in getting into the CBA semantics.

I like the idea of canons from either side, am just curious how it will actually work when in a game situation with them both being L shots. I'll give them a pass on last year's performance. Let's see what this coaching staff can come up with!
- KB3Point0

I like the "load up the first unit" with your most promising offensive threats, and I think those two guys give you that. I think it also gives you a guy who generally (with a small sample) makes better decisions at the point in Garrison. As long as they do away with the drop pass at your own blue line play I'm happy!

So players would become UFA after 3 years? They absolutely will not do that.
- KB3Point0

Look at the contracts top RFA's like Eberle, Kane, etc. are getting now anyway. If teams had the option of just dumping UFA signings like Gomez, Redden, Leino, Komisarek, Ballard, etc. whenever they want with no financial consequences, I think the owners would jump at UFA status after 3 years. It's the players who'd be more reluctant to give up their guaranteed contracts.

I like the "load up the first unit" with your most promising offensive threats, and I think those two guys give you that. I think it also gives you a guy who generally (with a small sample) makes better decisions at the point in Garrison. As long as they do away with the drop pass at your own blue line play I'm happy!
- 1970vintage

If there were no offer sheets allowed then the players would lose any leverage they potentially had other than playing in the KHL, Europe, or just holding out. It means players with RFA status get contracts that are more fair instead of being forced to take much less.

If there were no offer sheets then why would the Canucks offer Tanev more than $700k, knowing that his only other option would be to play in the KHL?
- KB3Point0

I said I don't want LOTS of them...not none...

GREAT SAVE TANEV!!!

Look at the contracts top RFA's like Eberle, Kane, etc. are getting now anyway. If teams had the option of just dumping UFA signings like Gomez, Redden, Leino, Komisarek, Ballard, etc. whenever they want with no financial consequences, I think the owners would jump at UFA status after 3 years. It's the players who'd be more reluctant to give up their guaranteed contracts.
- YeOldTimer

Owners don't want to invest money in developing players to have them leave after 3 years when they finally become stars. They also don't like the idea of rich teams being able to wipe their mistakes off the books anytime they want, it's not cap circumvention, it's salary circumvention. Teams that can't afford to spend to the cap ceiling would be hurt.

The PA won't give up guaranteed contracts either. Especially not for something like this which doesn't benefit the greater good of the players (their cut of the pie remains the same). Guaranteed contracts in a physical sport like hockey are very important to the players.

It won't happen.

What is interesting is the teams that are at or over the cap. Those are the teams I would be looking at to see if they wanted to unload some salary. Offersheeting just opens up a whole lot of trouble for yourself in the future.

I would like to see someone offersheet both Franson and Kadri at the same time.
- immature_male

I believe you can only do it one at a time.

I said I don't want LOTS of them...not none...
- The-O-G

Never said you did. I think the system's fine the way it is. Offer sheets are just a check to ensure RFAs get fair offers from their own teams.

How is it even a question if the whole Murray thing was a smokeshow or not? The report came out the day after Tanev pulled the KHL card.

I would agree that it's about $300k more than he deserves, given what a few other RFA D-men signed for, but he only got a 1 year deal where they got 2 yrs, so it's close enough not to complain. It's put up or shut up time for Tanev. Needs to contribute a little more offensively this season.
- KB3Point0

Problem is now his QO is 1.65 next year. In a sense, he could get 1.5, 1.65, 1.8, 2 as the starting point in his remaining UFA years I believe.

Problem is now his QO is 1.65 next year. In a sense, he could get 1.5, 1.65, 1.8, 2 as the starting point in his remaining UFA years I believe.
- IanEsplen

True, but if he doesn't prove to be worth that by then they're better off with someone else.

Look at the contracts top RFA's like Eberle, Kane, etc. are getting now anyway. If teams had the option of just dumping UFA signings like Gomez, Redden, Leino, Komisarek, Ballard, etc. whenever they want with no financial consequences, I think the owners would jump at UFA status after 3 years. It's the players who'd be more reluctant to give up their guaranteed contracts.
- YeOldTimer

That would be the end of NHL in at very least Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, and Ottawa. Quite possibly Vancouver as well. Montreal and Toronto would be able to attract UFA's but the rest would have a hard time competing.

That would be the end of NHL in at very least Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, and Ottawa. Quite possibly Vancouver as well. Montreal and Toronto would be able to attract UFA's but the rest would have a hard time competing.
- Al Hacker

There would still be a salary cap.

There would still be a salary cap.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Canadian teams have a hard time attracting top UFA's now. Lower the UFA age and Canadian teams will have almost no chance of competing for the cup because the top UFA's will sign in warmer places. I doubt many Canadian teams would want to continue to play in a leage where they have almost no chance of competing.