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Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 4 @ 7:24 PM ET
Darnell Nurse is going to become a Top 4 defenseman who can function in all situations. He's also huge and mean. Great level of compete. Great attitude. Out of any defenseman available on June 30th, Nurse is the guy people said had the greatest chance of turning into Chris Pronger. That's a very attractive thing if you're the Edmonton Oilers.

*braydon coburn

- Girouxsalem90

You guys are absolutely (frank)ed cap wise. Nick Shultz and a 2nd is all I would offer
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:25 PM ET
Semantics. Whether that word is used or not, it's still the prevailing thought. Look at any of Cloutier's blogs and they all speak about players that are "not going anywhere" if you want a quote..
- Old Pappy


sooo you're saying because cloutier uses the words 'untouchables' 'not going anywhere' that means all oiler fans think EDM has 47 untouchables?
Boom.
Calgary Flames
Location: Pominville, AB
Joined: 06.30.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:25 PM ET
Well not when he was with the oil haha, after all the shenanigans yes haha
- CrustyRooster


No denying that. Prongers a beast.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:26 PM ET
You guys are absolutely (frank)ed cap wise. Nick Shultz and a 2nd is all I would offer
- Ihatebrianburke


They don't need Schultz' salary. It'd be like Potter(low salary that's why)+marincin+2nd 2014+another mid pick
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:27 PM ET
I don't see it. He's a tougher version of hall
- Killbot460

tougher, maybe.

better, hell no
pcruicks
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 4 @ 7:27 PM ET
"They have a full additional season of hardcore sucking still left to do."
Isn't that what was said by you 2 seasons ago?

"Go for younger UFAs that some teams may have given up on."
Given up on?? There's a reason for these teams giving up on players.


"Let Klefbom start the year in the AHL, unless he really looks NHL ready."
Wasn't he ready last year?
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:27 PM ET
He's high risk but possible high reward.

Could be andy sutton as well

- Killbot460


what's the similarity between sutton and nurse?
Boom.
Calgary Flames
Location: Pominville, AB
Joined: 06.30.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:33 PM ET
[quote=NoobasaurusRex]Seguin>Hall


Before both of the Spitfire's Memorial cups.
SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jul 4 @ 7:34 PM ET
Tough career for klefbom going from all rookie first team allstar to AHL player in a couple weeks...

Belov for Norris!
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 4 @ 7:35 PM ET
Richard Cloutier: Nurse Addition Changes Dynamic in Edmonton
- Maxbone



You are all over the map!!

Klefbom is the next greatest thing, isn't that what you've always said Cloutier??

Now you're saying he should spend a year in the minors - Christ make up your mind.

What the Oilers need is size up front to go along with the skill so moving Magnus as part of a package to do so, why not??

How about moving the 1st rounder in 2014 for a proven forward with size??

Why not?? And please don't say you need to keep drafting high because those picks could easily bring back a proven player that could help & i'm not saying trade for a 30yr old but look what Dallas did today - they had balls to make the move & so did Boston - for that matter!!

Keeping this core of young guys together isn't likely to work either, the Oilers will need to move some to bring back the right chemistry in order to ice a real great team.
SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jul 4 @ 7:35 PM ET
Haha you're hearing Nurse has the best chance to be like Pronger eh? Hahaha

You sure it wasn't this other dman taken in the draft?
Old Pappy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.06.2006

Jul 4 @ 7:36 PM ET
sooo you're saying because cloutier uses the words 'untouchables' 'not going anywhere' that means all oiler fans think EDM has 47 untouchables?
- TheNugeIsHuge



What I'm saying is that don't expect MacT to do anything because he's of the same mindset as Cloutier, or so it seems. He claims to be ready to do dramatic things, but he won't. Why?, because drama involves moving players from the so called core. Getting prime UFA's to sign in Edmonton is a stretch, and he's not going to trade anyone important, so all you're left with is chasing 3rd liners and compiling draft choices. Get used to it.

He should have been able to get someone like Seguin today with all of the assets at his disposal. Why not trade a Yak, or RNH, and a secondary piece to get him? Bet MacT wasn't even involved in a phone call.

SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jul 4 @ 7:37 PM ET
Josh rimer


EDM too RT @TheFourthPeriod: Going to be interesting to see what type of dollars a team offers David Clarkson. Leafs, Sens all over him.

I think we'd be third on the list. Fact that the other two made the playoffs may give the advantage.

- ystoil


Not to mention where he's from.. And the team he grew up idolizing.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 4 @ 7:38 PM ET
You are all over the map!!

Klefbom is the next greatest thing, isn't that what you've always said Cloutier??

Now you're saying he should spend a year in the minors - Christ make up your mind.

What the Oilers need is size up front to go along with the skill so moving Magnus as part of a package to do so, why not??

How about moving the 1st rounder in 2014 for a proven forward with size??

Why not?? And please don't say you need to keep drafting high because those picks could easily bring back a proven player that could help & i'm not saying trade for a 30yr old but look what Dallas did today - they had balls to make the move & so did Boston - for that matter!!

Keeping this core of young guys together isn't likely to work either, the Oilers will need to move some to bring back the right chemistry in order to ice a real great team.

- newmy

Do you understand now why some of us are so damn wienerly? Our blogger makes idiotic, blind and guessing statements all the time and states them as fact, and then everyone thinks we're all like that when in reality, due to such a long stretch of futility, we're probably the most realistic fan base on here. Its enraging.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 4 @ 7:39 PM ET
Not to mention where he's from.. And the team he grew up idolizing.
- SameOld

Team you grew up cheering for is almost never a factor. Dollars and winning prospects? Far more relevant.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 4 @ 7:40 PM ET
Do you understand now why some of us are so damn wienerly? Our blogger makes idiotic, blind and guessing statements all the time and states them as fact, and then everyone thinks we're all like that when in reality, due to such a long stretch of futility, we're probably the most realistic fan base on here. Its enraging.
- TheTaoOfSemenko



Oh I get it for sure - Clouts is clued out!!
nhark
Edmonton Oilers
Location: airdrie, AB
Joined: 10.18.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:40 PM ET
Didn't you say last year that they will suck for only 1 more year and then push to be competitive?
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 4 @ 7:41 PM ET
What I'm saying is that don't expect MacT to do anything because he's of the same mindset as Cloutier, or so it seems. He claims to be ready to do dramatic things, but he won't. Why?, because drama involves moving players from the so called core. Getting prime UFA's to sign in Edmonton is a stretch, and he's not going to trade anyone important, so all you're left with is chasing 3rd liners and compiling draft choices. Get used to it.

He should have been able to get someone like Seguin today with all of the assets at his disposal. Why not trade a Yak, or RNH, and a secondary piece to get him? Bet MacT wasn't even involved in a phone call.

- Old Pappy

Maybe some of us also understand that the off season has barely started. That is a stunningly premature statement filled with nothing but supposition and conjecture.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:41 PM ET
You are all over the map!!

Klefbom is the next greatest thing, isn't that what you've always said Cloutier??

Now you're saying he should spend a year in the minors - Christ make up your mind.

What the Oilers need is size up front to go along with the skill so moving Magnus as part of a package to do so, why not??

How about moving the 1st rounder in 2014 for a proven forward with size??

Why not?? And please don't say you need to keep drafting high because those picks could easily bring back a proven player that could help & i'm not saying trade for a 30yr old but look what Dallas did today - they had balls to make the move & so did Boston - for that matter!!

Keeping this core of young guys together isn't likely to work either, the Oilers will need to move some to bring back the right chemistry in order to ice a real great team.

- newmy


why trade a 2014 first round pick right now? What if EDM finishes dead last n trades Sam Reinhart for a 2nd liner?
Girouxsalem90
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Upstate, NY
Joined: 05.28.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:43 PM ET
You guys are absolutely (frank)ed cap wise. Nick Shultz and a 2nd is all I would offer
- Ihatebrianburke

We'll be fine, but I was referencing the scouting report of nurses compared to coburns. They're the exact same report, he'll be decent, but to think he'll be a # 1 d man is optimistic at best
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:43 PM ET
What I'm saying is that don't expect MacT to do anything because he's of the same mindset as Cloutier, or so it seems. He claims to be ready to do dramatic things, but he won't. Why?, because drama involves moving players from the so called core. Getting prime UFA's to sign in Edmonton is a stretch, and he's not going to trade anyone important, so all you're left with is chasing 3rd liners and compiling draft choices. Get used to it.

He should have been able to get someone like Seguin today with all of the assets at his disposal. Why not trade a Yak, or RNH, and a secondary piece to get him? Bet MacT wasn't even involved in a phone call.

- Old Pappy


because he didn't make a trade on draft day he's of the same mindset as cloutier?

You know why he doesn't make huge trades. Because the players he wants may be overpriced. Why overpay when you can just not make the deal?

MacT has til october to improve the team, don't female dog about how he isn't doing anything on july 4th buddy. You're coming across as smart as Cloutier
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:44 PM ET
We'll be fine, but I was referencing the scouting report of nurses compared to coburns. They're the exact same report, he'll be decent, but to think he'll be a # 1 d man is optimistic at best
- Girouxsalem90


I think he'll be a top pairing guy at this stage. All depends on how he evolves. He could be Teubert or Weber. Who knows now?

Nurse's best feature is his skating too. Coburn ain't a great skater at all
SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jul 4 @ 7:46 PM ET
Team you grew up cheering for is almost never a factor. Dollars and winning prospects? Far more relevant.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


You're right. He probably wouldn't get either in Toronto.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:47 PM ET
So....clouts sure has a boner for Pouliot and Meuller eh? Brutal. Pouliot would be okay , I suppose as a spare part/ utility winger, but PM is an awful idea as a 3C. Why not get a guy who is hard to play against, wins face offs and kills penalties?
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 4 @ 7:49 PM ET
You're right. He probably wouldn't get either in Toronto.
- SameOld

I didnt say that. Frankly I think TO is his likely landing spot.
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