Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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very important point. ottawa didn't "rebuild", the "retooled".....big difference. the core of ottawa's team remained intact. you can't compare what ottawa did to what edmonton is doing.
honestly, i thought edmonton would be a little further ahead then they are now.....but i think that's cuz management has failed to get the proper supporting pieces to compliment the young talent that's there.
edm's rebuild was never gonna be quick, and i think most of their fans realized that. when the entire core of your team is under 22, it's gonna take some time. - sensarmy_11
I was replying to a senators compatriot who was claiming that one could...
It's so far off the point of the blog, so I'm inclined to drop it. I'll never understand the vitriolic joy some teams seem to get in bashing the Oilers' rebuild. A guy can't state his opinion without opening himself up to unrelated mockery? |
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Your looking at 3 assets...
It would be Bishop another prospect and your 1st... - Iggysbff
i don't think it would be that much........unless calgary eats some of his cap hit. that contract is UGLY.
if calgary eats, say, 2.5 mil of the cap hit/salary for this year and next, then i could see bishop, 1st, mid-level prospect (dacosta, petersson, etc). if ottawa takes the full contract, i think 2 of those 3 assets would be fair compensation.
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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.09.2012
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which is why you don't trade everyone for picks. You proved my point. Calgary needs to keep guys like giordano, cammy. You need young guys to be led by example and into a winning environment. Be in denial if u want but the oilers accept losing - Paul99
who did we ship away that we should of kept??? you're making yourself look very stupid, you obviously have no clue what the (frank) you're talking about |
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I was replying to a senators compatriot who was claiming that one could...
It's so far off the point of the blog, so I'm inclined to drop it. I'll never understand the vitriolic joy some teams seem to get in bashing the Oilers' rebuild. A guy can't state his opinion without opening himself up to unrelated mockery? - Morris
oh, i know. i quoted your post, but it was more of a reply to him.....sorry. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Jacksonville, FL Joined: 11.04.2005
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I would do Saad and a pick. Glenx is signed cheap for the next couple of years. - cmpdave
No way Chicago does this. Best chance is Morin/AHL types. Hawks are missing 2nd and 3rd rounder this years draft, so Hawks would offer prospects. Saad has impressed Chicago's brass, and they would not trade him for a role player, much less a role player and a pick.
I would think Morin and Olsen might entice Feaster. After the Iginla trade, I think Feaster may have shortchanged himself. My guess is GMs are not going to offer top dollar in the hopes they can fleece Feaster. Not trolling, just explaining my opinion. I really thought Iginla would bring more than a bottom 5 first rounder and two college kid prospects |
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jtommyt
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 08.02.2007
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Don't think you'll see Chiarelli talking with Feaster anytime soon to be honest. - tyanderson
Can he afford not to though? There aren't a ton of selling teams right now, and the Flames still have some potentially helpful pieces. |
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I still don't understand why everyone thinks the Oilers should be further along... IT'S ONLY BEEN 2.5 YEARS SINCE THEY BLEW THE TEAM UP...... It took Pitsburgh 6 YEARS to make the playoffs with Crosby and Malkin.... like ffs - SpoiledByOil
i wasn't implying the oilers should be contending, but i thought they'd atleast be a playoff team by now.....7th or 8th spot.
and lets be fair here, when you've had the last three 1st overall picks, you're ATLEAST 3 years into your rebuild. |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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which is why you don't trade everyone for picks. You proved my point. Calgary needs to keep guys like giordano, cammy. You need young guys to be led by example and into a winning environment. Be in denial if u want but the oilers accept losing - Paul99
This is my last comment:
I would agree, if we had had, and had traded players of Spezza, Alfredsson, Mihalek, Gonchar, Phillips and Karlsson's calibre and value. We didn't have those assets to begin with.
And guess what? Any veteran players of note that we did have (Horcoff, Hemsky) we kept. The situations are not analogous.
Or at least your fellow Sens fan doesn't think so. I'm not going to get blasted on one end for having a comparatively poor rebuild and on the other for calling the sens moves a rebuild a) In a Calgary blog and b) Unprompted.
Have a good day. |
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Barx
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Joined: 02.06.2007
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feaster is a really good gm. |
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ursomp71
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 05.25.2008
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I still don't understand why everyone thinks the Oilers should be further along... IT'S ONLY BEEN 2.5 YEARS SINCE THEY BLEW THE TEAM UP...... It took Pitsburgh 6 YEARS to make the playoffs with Crosby and Malkin.... like ffs - SpoiledByOil
Four seasons to get back to the playoffs (not including the lockout year). |
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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.09.2012
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i wasn't implying the oilers should be contending, but i thought they'd atleast be a playoff team by now.....7th or 8th spot.
and lets be fair here, when you've had the last three 1st overall picks, you're ATLEAST 3 years into your rebuild. - sensarmy_11
this is year 3 yes, but since it's only halfway done, well a bit more than half now, i see it as 2.5 |
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ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB Joined: 10.21.2011
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Can he afford not to though? There aren't a ton of selling teams right now, and the Flames still have some potentially helpful pieces. - jtommyt
What would Chiarelli give up for Cammi at 2/3 of his salary, now?
I would think all offers are being considered. |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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i wasn't implying the oilers should be contending, but i thought they'd atleast be a playoff team by now.....7th or 8th spot.
and lets be fair here, when you've had the last three 1st overall picks, you're ATLEAST 3 years into your rebuild. - sensarmy_11
He's treating the decision to sell off assets in the latter half of the 2009-2010 season as the start of the rebuild. 3 years is fair enough.
And I thought we'd be further along too. Right now we're competing for a playoff spot that we probably won't get, but realistically could have had with better supplemental moves. |
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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.09.2012
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Four seasons to get back to the playoffs (not counting the lockout year). - ursomp71
that's right, my bad |
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Casshern
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Brooklin, ON Joined: 01.19.2013
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Please bring Stempniak (Stimpack) To leafs!!!
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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.09.2012
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That is some pretty big talk from a fan of a team that hasn't won anything ever. You sound like a Casucks fan. Hell, even anaheim has won a cup. Who did they beat for that cup again???? Oh yeah, the sens, the one and only time the team has made the finals, well done, well done, the sens are a dominating franchise and their fans should be talking down to fans of other teams. - ruttager17
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which is why you don't trade everyone for picks. You proved my point. Calgary needs to keep guys like giordano, cammy. You need young guys to be led by example and into a winning environment. Be in denial if u want but the oilers accept losing - Paul99
calgary HAS to trade whatever they can, cuz their prospect cupboards are EMPTY.
anybody on thier roster, not named baertschi (sp?) should be skating with a "for sale" sign on their jersey.
ottawa was MUCH different than calgary, where our core guys were, for the most part, still young and very talented (spezza, karlsson, michalek, cowen, etc). calgary's core is all old (think jbo is the youngest at 29), highly overpaid, and declining in skill.
maybe they keep a couple of vets, but there are absolutely no untouchables on that team......except the ONE i already named. |
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Allstarzz
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.28.2011
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Just STFU already dude...Youre embarassing yourself. - Iggysbff
lol Why are you mad? He is right. How many 1st overall picks do the Oilers need before they even get in as an 8th seed? Pathetic. |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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No way Chicago does this. Best chance is Morin/AHL types. Hawks are missing 2nd and 3rd rounder this years draft, so Hawks would offer prospects. Saad has impressed Chicago's brass, and they would not trade him for a role player, much less a role player and a pick.
I would think Morin and Olsen might entice Feaster. After the Iginla trade, I think Feaster may have shortchanged himself. My guess is GMs are not going to offer top dollar in the hopes they can fleece Feaster. Not trolling, just explaining my opinion. I really thought Iginla would bring more than a bottom 5 first rounder and two college kid prospects - ikeane
You know....Hanowski had almost as many points last year as Toews did in his last year.....in the same conference......just sayin |
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Allstarzz
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.28.2011
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Please bring Stempniak (Stimpack) To leafs!!! - Casshern
Ew no. We don't need that mediocre player. |
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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.09.2012
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calgary HAS to trade whatever they can, cuz their prospect cupboards are EMPTY.
anybody on thier roster, not named baertschi (sp?) should be skating with a "for sale" sign on their jersey.
ottawa was MUCH different than calgary, where our core guys were, for the most part, still young and very talented (spezza, karlsson, michalek, cowen, etc). calgary's core is all old (think jbo is the youngest at 29), highly overpaid, and declining in skill.
maybe they keep a couple of vets, but there are absolutely no untouchables on that team......except the ONE i already named. - sensarmy_11
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Allstarzz
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.28.2011
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You know....Hanowski had almost as many points last year as Toews did in his last year.....in the same conference......just sayin - The-O-G
And you know Toews was a 3rd overall pick...what round was that no name picked? Oh. |
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He's treating the decision to sell off assets in the latter half of the 2009-2010 season as the start of the rebuild. 3 years is fair enough.
And I thought we'd be further along too. Right now we're competing for a playoff spot that we probably won't get, but realistically could have had with better supplemental moves. - Morris
i agree, that's probably been the only real disappointment during this rebuild. either those supporting pieces arent' available (which i doubt) or tambellenni and lowe just aren't doing a good enough job at identifying them. |
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