Richard Cloutier: Oil Price Rising; Flames Subsiding
- Maxbone

I feel bad for the Flames fans, they should have ripped the team apart at the end of last season. At the deadline if im Feaster I move everyone of value.

Mark Jankowski if not traded could have been girgensons, teravainen or ceci. Even if they make that trade with guys like Suban, matheson, gaunce and maata on the board I couldnt beleive they didnt just try to move up in the 2nd round to grab Jankowski...

At the end of the day the rebuild is coming if you want it or not. Baertschi being the only good prospect even close to being ready. The question is do you want to jump start it and make it shorter my getting alot more picks early on, or just wait until your team is last place with no picks or prospects.

Richard Cloutier: Oil Price Rising; Flames Subsiding
- Maxbone

Draft odds this year will remain unchanged. Only thing is all teams can get first overall. All other teams simply get bumped down.

25.0% - 30th
18.8% - 29th
14.2% - 28th
10.7% - 27th
8.1% - 26th
6.2% - 25th
4.7% - 24th
3.6% - 23rd
2.7% - 22nd
2.1% - 21st
1.5% - 20th
1.1% - 19th
0.8% - 18th
0.5% - 17th

Flames will end up having a rebuild shoved down their throats. And we've seen it coming for years now.
- robin_steele264

I dont think they take a chance that Iggy will walk for nothing. Regardless of whether they are in the playoffs or not I think he's gone at the deadline if not extended.

Edit: ALthough with his NTC he still ha a say.

Calgary sucks, they thought they were smart, in hindsight they were fools.

Real good article. With where I think the oil will be picking in the draft I think the oil should take frederick gauthier instead of lazar. Lazar is a good player but he isnt to big the oil are small enough as it is, Gauthier is like 6'5 210 lbs and can score but is a real good defensive center kind of fits the oilers needs more (reminds me of brooks laich). I agree comrie would be a good pick though.

Draft odds this year will remain unchanged. Only thing is all teams can get first overall. All other teams simply get bumped down.

25.0% - 30th
18.8% - 29th
14.2% - 28th
10.7% - 27th
8.1% - 26th
6.2% - 25th
4.7% - 24th
3.6% - 23rd
2.7% - 22nd
2.1% - 21st
1.5% - 20th
1.1% - 19th
0.8% - 18th
0.5% - 17th
- Iggysbff

So they change the rule because of EDM getting 3 1sts in a row, yet the rule change actually gives EDM a chance at a 4th even as their team has improved LOL.

That would be the ultimate troll.

hahaha why does this guy even get to write a blog? It is one thing to write a horrible homer blog on the oilers, but it's another to do it and be a horrible evaluator of talent and what's realistic. Why would the flames get rid of Cervenka when they just signed hudler for four years... Why would they trade Iginla and bouwmeester for picks and defensive prospects only... Why would they give him to the oilers for a 2nd round pick + when he is playing as a number one and would certainly get a first from someone... Since when is 3.5 million dollars a year for a first line player a bad contract... Get out of your moms basement Clouts and see the world man haha just wow

The trade down netted jankowski AND Sieloff... If you all think the flames lack so many prospects then why bash them for trading down and getting a little depth? Hahaha silly oiler fans.... You pretend that the oilers are draft wizards when outside of the automatic picks in the first round your drafting past that hasn't been great at all. Any good second round picks made lately outside of petry? The oilers in 5 years will be a top heavy, injury prone team with no depth. The flames won't be any better trying to re tool on the fly like they are.

The trade down netted jankowski AND Sieloff... If you all think the flames lack so many prospects then why bash them for trading down and getting a little depth? Hahaha silly oiler fans.... You pretend that the oilers are draft wizards when outside of the automatic picks in the first round your drafting past that hasn't been great at all. Any good second round picks made lately outside of petry? The oilers in 5 years will be a top heavy, injury prone team with no depth. The flames won't be any better trying to re tool on the fly like they are.
- cmpdave

Lol, so full of fail I dont even know where to start.

SURPRISE another troll blog

The Oilers players that mention - Hall, Eberle, Nuge, Yakupov, Schultz - are not elite. You have to put up elite numbers in order to be elite. They haven't. They might be one day but calling them elite now is just plain wrong.

Lol, so full of fail I dont even know where to start.
- sanfordnson

Based on?... It must be the current oilers ability to have a winning season.... Oh wait haven't seen that have we.

Calgary sucks, they thought they were smart, in hindsight they were fools.
- yaktalksback

And Edmonton blows... blah, blah... Its an Alberta curse...the fact you guys even take what Cloutier says even remotley serious is comical.
You've got a GM who's too afraid to part with any real assets to make your team competitive... The Flames organization actually needs to make decisions (albeit rather odd ones) as opposed to the Oilers where they wait for central scouting to list the #1 pick...

The Oilers players that mention - Hall, Eberle, Nuge, Yakupov, Schultz - are not elite. You have to put up elite numbers in order to be elite. They haven't. They might be one day but calling them elite now is just plain wrong.
- docmorgan

Thank you! Maybe this guy should write the oiler blogs haha

Based on?... It must be the current oilers ability to have a winning season.... Oh wait haven't seen that have we.
- cmpdave

Cmpdave it's clouts mo to stir the pot. Don't take any of this personally

Cmpdave it's clouts mo to stir the pot. Don't take any of this personally
- Oilerulez

Haha all good man, I just like real hockey talk. No one wants Alberta to be the worst place for teams to play again than me.

Cmpdave it's clouts mo to stir the pot. Don't take any of this personally
- Oilerulez

It isn't what he thinks so it must have been a personal shot at him...

CBJ is much further along than most think. They have a solid D with many guys coming up like Murray. Dansk coming up in net, plus Mason, Brobosky are on the younger side although neither will probably be your #1 in the long term. They basically need a few top end forwards to go along with Jenner, Johansen, etc.

With those 3 first round picks this year and 2 most likely in the lottery they have a chance to really get moving on the up side. After this season they're probably only 2 years behind the oilers.
- allen_gamble

This.

Howson will be ridiculed but he built a solid foundation for that team to grow

The Oilers players that mention - Hall, Eberle, Nuge, Yakupov, Schultz - are not elite. You have to put up elite numbers in order to be elite. They haven't. They might be one day but calling them elite now is just plain wrong.
- docmorgan

What is elite? Point wise? Ppg? 90/season? 100+?

~60 is solid first line numbers. So to be the best of the best don't you think 70+ start the elite section?

Haha all good man, I just like real hockey talk. No one wants Alberta to be the worst place for teams to play again than me.
- cmpdave

Then dont come in with troll posts.

CBJ is much further along than most think. They have a solid D with many guys coming up like Murray. Dansk coming up in net, plus Mason, Brobosky are on the younger side although neither will probably be your #1 in the long term. They basically need a few top end forwards to go along with Jenner, Johansen, etc.

With those 3 first round picks this year and 2 most likely in the lottery they have a chance to really get moving on the up side. After this season they're probably only 2 years behind the oilers.
- allen_gamble

Good post. I wonder if Columbus makes moves using the abundance of picks and tries to grab mackinnon and drouin? Are two top 3 picks worth sacrificing a few more picks if your Columbus?

Flames will end up having a rebuild shoved down their throats. And we've seen it coming for years now.
- robin_steele264

Funny trivia fact: In 2009 I believe we tried hard to get Jagr and another bigger name, but like always at that time we were not the choice of places to go.
But look at our roster then and the Flames roster now and realize if it wasn't for a complete depletion of our semi key vets due to injury we might have still been fooling ourselves about prospects today. Yes they realised the call-ups were no where near ready, so they made the decision to trade the vets for whatever they could get and started the rebuild. Calgary is going to have to have the same thing happen to them before they start a complete rebuild.

Good post. I wonder if Columbus makes moves using the abundance of picks and tries to grab mackinnon and drouin? Are two top 3 picks worth sacrificing a few more picks if your Columbus?
- cmpdave

Indeed. The talent and NHL likeliness drops a lot after the top 5-10.

What is elite? Point wise? Ppg? 90/season? 100+?

~60 is solid first line numbers. So to be the best of the best don't you think 70+ start the elite section?
- OilHorse

Solid yes - elite no. Of course I'm not the one who defines elite but I'm thinking you would have to be top 10 in numbers to be in that convo. And even at that I think you would have to do that consistently.

CBJ is much further along than most think. They have a solid D with many guys coming up like Murray. Dansk coming up in net, plus Mason, Brobosky are on the younger side although neither will probably be your #1 in the long term. They basically need a few top end forwards to go along with Jenner, Johansen, etc.

With those 3 first round picks this year and 2 most likely in the lottery they have a chance to really get moving on the up side. After this season they're probably only 2 years behind the oilers.
- allen_gamble

They've had a similar team for years now. Only thing is now they don't have Nash.