Canucks will get a lot more for Luongo now since Burke promised ownership he'd be a leaf after the cba was concluded and now Burke is gone. Why you ask?

Well the new owners want Bobby Luo and Burke didn't want to pay the price the Canucks were asking. Now there's pressure on nonis to get Luo and gillis knows it.the cba wasn't as harsh as Burke thought it would be on the Canucks in terms of cap hit or penalty for the front loaded deal. Burke thought he'd get Luo for a song but the Canucks can actually hold onto him with the 70 mill cap and await better offers from desperate GMs. This will force nonis to do what Burke wouldn't.the pressure is all on nonis.

Canucks will get bozak, Gardiner (or some other half decent dman which rules out phaneuf), and a solid prospect.
- kaptaan

i thought you said the leafs needed some elite talent? than you listed off a bunch of the oilers B level talent, compared to a list of the leafs more tradeable assets.

paarjavi is the only guy on that list that might be a worthwhile investment, really the only one with 2nd line potential. at this point, the leafs are probably in the same boat with kadri. i would consider the leafs being ahead having gunnarson than paarjavi right now. teubert hasn't shown much more than being a 5-6 guy in the nhl. lander will be a solid third liner, olivier roy won't amount to much. if the leafs were to be looking to ship some of their more tradeables, i would hope they do better than the guys on that list.

the only thing that should draw the leafs into a trade with the oilers, is the oil's first. that's only if they continue to be near the bottom of the league, which i don't see.

You really are in your own world. They can fire and hire as many GM's as they want, no competent person would make that deal. You think that the Canucks are gonna be getting good offers from desperate GM's? Are you joking? Who has actually shown a legitimate interest in acquiring Luongo other than the Leafs and Panthers? Nobody.
- SteveTambellini

i'd say they even struck out with the panthers. they have markstrom, theodore, and clemmenson. why would they want to add a 4th nhl level tender just to bury themselves cap wise? the jackets are probably better off than the leafs with mason and bobrovsky.

the leafs are the only real fit, and they are probably still 2 years away from needing to take that step. they'd be foolish to part with anything legitimate to invest in a goaltender signed until he's 62, when by the time the team is ready to compete, he'll be off to the glue factory.

Canucks will get a lot more for Luongo now
- kaptaan

I'm going to recycle old rethoric regarding this. Luongo's contract is still an issue. Whichever teams he is playing for at least the way I understand it, will have to take a cap hit for that contract till Lu's 43? I believe (when his current contract runs out). What if he retires at 38? The team will still suffer a cap hit for that contract for another 5 years. Retires at 40? you get the picture but correct me if I'm wrong though as my understanding of the CBA is far from flawless.

Luongo doesn't go to Toronto. In fact, I really can't believe the suggestion that Burke was terminated over the Luongo trade. Unless someone has some facts to suggest otherwise...

but what about Yaks + 1 prospect for Gardiner...

Hey, Kessel's the greatest 40 goal scorer to never score 40, and the Oilers are the greatest dynasty team to never make the playoffs
- Zezel

I know it sad the Oilers are the only team to not make it to the post season since the last lockout... Hmmm

You could give me three Kessels, and you still can't have my Tyler Seguin.




ok

So rumors are Philly is in hard for Lou??

Luongo doesn't go to Toronto. In fact, I really can't believe the suggestion that Burke was terminated over the Luongo trade. Unless someone has some facts to suggest otherwise...

but what about Yaks + 1 prospect for Gardiner...
- mungozen

I really don't get why the Nucks don't just keep Lou and put Schneider on the market he would be a lot easier to move?

I like the idea of trading for Gardiner I just don't see us parting with Yaks to do it. I would rather wait to see what the free agent market brings this summer with all of the players being bought out there is a more ideal way to fill the holes on the back end.

I really don't get why the Nucks don't just keep Lou and put Schneider on the market he would be a lot easier to move?

I like the idea of trading for Gardiner I just don't see us parting with Yaks to do it. I would rather wait to see what the free agent market brings this summer with all of the players being bought out there is a more ideal way to fill the holes on the back end.
- Oil Tycoon

i think it would be smart of them to just roll with luongo for the shortened season. at the end of the day, schneider is still relatively unproven. if he were to blow a tire, at least they'd have lou. that scenario may even up his trade value, and make that albatross contract look a little less greasy.

on the other hand, i wouldn't be to bummed about seeing the leafs part with one of their top youngsters in a deal for schneider.

Dion/Gardiner/2nd for RNH

Dion your big shut down d man

Gardiner and Shultz reunited

I never actually got to the trade offer in Cloutiers article, I just assume it was something moronic like this.

Sam Gagner for Morgan Reilly and Jake Gardiner.

Outside of Garth's overblown man love for Grigo, no other blogger on this site over values players like Clouts does with Gagner.

So rumors are Philly is in hard for Lou??
- burn

"Hard"? Not at all

Philly is in on every big name player that comes available via trade or FA. Holmgrem is always trying to make the team better. He has inquired, by no means is anything going to happen.

Dion/Gardiner/2nd for RNH

Dion your big shut down d man

Gardiner and Shultz reunited
- Sherratt0204

that's a little intense.

RNH and a lower level prospect for gardiner, scrivens, and franson. phaneuf would fetch more elsewhere.

i think the leafs need to just keep gardiner, rielly as the cornerstones, and look for other ways to land the franchise center. if they ride out this year without any panic moves, the team is bad enough to find that center through the draft.

Dion/Gardiner/2nd for RNH

Dion your big shut down d man

Gardiner and Shultz reunited
- Sherratt0204

Umm no. Nuge is not going anywhere.

that's a little intense.

RNH and a lower level prospect for gardiner, scrivens, and franson. phaneuf would fetch more elsewhere.

i think the leafs need to just keep gardiner, rielly as the cornerstones, and look for other ways to land the franchise center. if they ride out this year without any panic moves, the team is bad enough to find that center through the draft.
- joel878

This is the year to draft a centre there are a couple worthy of building a team around. If they can acquire another 1st round pick they will be in a good position to do just that.

Tyler Seguin = Potential a Top 5 center in the NHL

Phil Kessel = A Top 30 goal scorer who has girl arms

Saying three Kessels are worth more than a Seguin is like saying Martin Gelinas, Jimmy Carson, three bad 1st round picks and $15mil are worth more than Gretzky.
- Maxbone

I'm pretty sure Edmonton won another cup with those players, and Gretzky didn't. Just sayin.

Richard Cloutier: Leafs Fire Burke. Oilers Deal to Follow?
- Maxbone

We cannot express how grateful we, the people east of Winnipeg, are. Your blogs introduce us to a world we never knew existed. Up until reading your blogs, names like Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yakupov and Schultz were unknown to us. We have nothing but the utmost respect for you, RC. Keep doing your thing, and educating those of us who obviously do not have access to the same quality/quantity of information that you do.

Sincerely,

East of Winnipeg

Richard Cloutier: Leafs Fire Burke. Oilers Deal to Follow?
- Maxbone

Great blog. However, if I may offer an alternative suggestion, perhaps it's not the supplemental players TO and/or EDM should be looking to swap.

Suppose the Leafs ARE interested in moving Gardiner+ to the Oilers for a forward. With their depth up front, I don't think it's necessarily such a crazy deal to take.

Obviously you can argue about who would/should be targeted, but maybe there's a fit here. Gardiner isn't exactly chump change...

Anyway, that's my two cents

**edit
I see now this has already been discussed.

Great that the season is starting and the trade rumor fantasies can heat up in earnest.....this article details all the players the Oilers have figured out cannot play and proposes to send them to the Leafs for useful players...the classic sports talk radio deal....

....on the other hand, it only takes one clueless/desperate GM to make a bad deal, and the Leafs certainly have a long history of short-sighted moves, so I guess we can't rule anything out.

DROP THE PUCK!!!!! THE OILERS ARE BACK!!!!

We cannot express how grateful we, the people east of Winnipeg, are. Your blogs introduce us to a world we never knew existed. Up until reading your blogs, names like Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yakupov and Schultz were unknown to us. We have nothing but the utmost respect for you, RC. Keep doing your thing, and educating those of us who obviously do not have access to the same quality/quantity of information that you do.

Sincerely,

East of Winnipeg
- laughs2907

RC is big in Mexico.

Sincerely,

South of Texas

I keep seeing MSM listing the Oilers lines like this....

Hall - RNH - Eberle
Yak - Gagner - Hemsky
Smyth - Horcoff - Hartikainen
Eager - Belanger - Jones

Petrell & Hordi

Smid - Petry
J.Schultz - N.Schultz
Whitney - Potter

I have to admit that lineup looks like it could work....

Tyler Seguin = Potential a Top 5 center in the NHL

Phil Kessel = A Top 30 goal scorer who has girl arms

Saying three Kessels are worth more than a Seguin is like saying Martin Gelinas, Jimmy Carson, three bad 1st round picks and $15mil are worth more than Gretzky.
- Maxbone

Tyler Seguin = Potential a Top 5 center in the NHL

Phil Kessel = A Top 30 goal scorer who has girl arms

Saying three Kessels are worth more than a Seguin is like saying Martin Gelinas, Jimmy Carson, three bad 1st round picks and $15mil are worth more than Gretzky.
- Maxbone

no its not, because those are different players and wayne gretzky, not 1 Seguin and 3 Kessels

if you dont see the value of not 1 or 2 but 3 Kessels vs 1 seguin you are drunk


then to use the gretzky comparison is complete crap, almost like a diversion tactic or just Homer Trolling Leaf Bashing