Ales Hemsky -ELH- for ČSOB Pojišťovna Pardubice in the Czech League
GP 22 G 14 A 13 P 27 +/- +4

Ladislav Smid -ELH- for Ocelari Trinec Czech League
GP 22 G 2 A 12 P 14 +/- -9

Nail Yakupov -KHL- for HC Neftekhimik Nizhnekamsk,
GP 20 G 10 A 8 P 18 +/- -5

Lennart Petrell -SM-liiga- Helsinki, Finnish League.
GP 19 G 9 A 0 P 9 +/- 0

Corey Potter - Vienna Capitals in the Austrian League
GP 17 G 1 A 3 P 4 +/- -2

Sam Gagner - EC-KAC Klagenfurt in the Austrian league
GP 14 G 7 A 7 P 14 +/- -1

Jordan Eberle -AHL- Oklahoma City Barons
GP 20 G 12 A 15 P 27 +/- +11

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins -AHL- Oklahoma City Barons
GP 19 G 8 A 12 P 20 +/- +7

Justin Schultz -AHL- Oklahoma City Barons
GP 20 G 11 A 20 P 31 +/- +14

Taylor Hall -AHL- Oklahoma City Barons
GP 12 G 5 A 11 P 16 +/- +5

Magnus Paajarvi S. -AHL- Oklahoma City Barons
GP 20 G 2 A 11 P 13 +/- -3

Teemu Hartikainen -AHL- Oklahoma City Barons
GP 20 G 6 A 10 P 16 +/- +2

hemsky killin it is nice to see.

hartakainens numbers are super encouraging too.

prv-meh, not bad

feel same for gags. dont know much about the austrian league though. assuming it's a much weaker league than some of the others

smid 14 pts??!! wow. -9 though. dont care if he has no points, just concentrate on bein a physical shutdown guy

the kids and schultz killing it

yaks slowed down abit, but still fantastic numbers for a rook in the K. stoked.


thx for that kosovas. hadnt really checked around other than okc.

What's the deal with young Paajarvi??

I think he needs a fresh start and get more minutes.

I'll give you Gionta and a second for him.

Whats your thoughts on David Musil asssuming a cba is reached? Should he be invited to the oilers training camp and possibly earn a spot or be sent to the Barrons (with the departures of Schultz and Marincin). Or is that too far out of reach and he should continue with the world juniors and whl?

watched a lot of edmonton just because of these blogs and man devan dubnyk doesn't get enough credit

What's the deal with young Paajarvi??

I think he needs a fresh start and get more minutes.

I'll give you Gionta and a second for him.
- soad_live

no thanks.
dont need another small winger. especially an aging one.
he'll get more minutes in the farm if the season starts. along with call ups.

prv's got all the tools. size and ridiculous skating bein the two that stand out. just not sure about his IQ.
hes shown flashes, just been a slow process. his numbers havent been bad, just not eye popping. still think he'll turn out. nowhere near ready to give up.

Whats your thoughts on David Musil asssuming a cba is reached? Should he be invited to the oilers training camp and possibly earn a spot or be sent to the Barrons (with the departures of Schultz and Marincin). Or is that too far out of reach and he should continue with the world juniors and whl?
- 10in_soft

no space for him on the oil. stay in junior and a year or two in the ahl prob. no rush

watched a lot of edmonton just because of these blogs and man devan dubnyk doesn't get enough credit
- RyanZabizewski

well said.

hes had pretty good numbers on a terrible team. hes played really good in stretches, but still lets in the odd softie. something he'll have to work on.

never even had a shot to be the true number 1 yet, which he'll finally get if we ever get a season.

it seems people just slag him, or say hes not the answer, but dont actually have any real info to back said claim. hes had comparable numbers to other young goalies on far better defensive teams. incidentally, the haters say these same goalies are for sure the real deal, while saying the opposite about dubnyk..?

high hopes. we'll see

no thanks.
dont need another small winger. especially an aging one.
he'll get more minutes in the farm if the season starts. along with call ups.

prv's got all the tools. size and ridiculous skating bein the two that stand out. just not sure about his IQ.
hes shown flashes, just been a slow process. his numbers havent been bad, just not eye popping. still think he'll turn out. nowhere near ready to give up.
- hugefemale dog77

Ok then, what you would ask for your still a project AHL player??

Ok then, what you would ask for your still a project AHL player??
- soad_live

dunno.

didnt mean to slag gionta per se. there's no question he's the safer player, and much better than prv right now. gionta's just not the answer long term or the right player to make a huge difference now. and hes not getting any better.
its not like we we're winning a cup this year.
prv has so much more long term value to us.

prob not worth it to deal prv unless it's in a deal where we cant refuse.
a two way, top 4 dman i guess. one that's not very old either.

even another d prospect prob isnt worth it as we got some very promising ones already in schultz and marincin in the A.

we'd either want too much, or wouldnt be getting proper value back.

would you guys trade Gagner for Franson?

would you guys trade Gagner for Franson?
- bobbyflex

if ud have asked half way through last year i might have said yes.
but now?..prob not. need a 2nd line center more than another 3rd pairing dman. i suppose its kinda close as franson could play some top 4 minutes.

isnt franson signed for the year in sweden though? wouldnt work as gags is only a 1 year contract.
he either puts up better numbers this year finally having some solid wingers and gets resigned. in which case he's way more valuable to us.
or he doesnt and probably walks/goes for very little

there's some gagner lovers round here that would hate u for even suggesting the deal..

would you guys trade Gagner for Franson?
- bobbyflex

Possibly Gunnerson for Gagner would be more fair. But I doubt the leafs want Gagner. I doubt they would sign him if he was an UFA so the probably wouldn't trade for him.

Possibly Gunnerson for Gagner would be more fair. But I doubt the leafs want Gagner. I doubt they would sign him if he was an UFA so the probably wouldn't trade for him.
- aeberg

the oil would prob be very interested in this. doubt the leafers would tho.

and as i said. he'll either put up, get resigned and be worth more to the oil than gunnerson, or he'll walk and go for fairly cheap somewhere else

Possibly Gunnerson for Gagner would be more fair. But I doubt the leafs want Gagner. I doubt they would sign him if he was an UFA so the probably wouldn't trade for him.
- aeberg

Gunnarsson is probably our most underrated player. He slots in nicely with Phaneuf. Are Oilers more in need of a LD or RD? What about Liles

Gunnarsson is probably our most underrated player. He slots in nicely with Phaneuf. Are Oilers more in need of a LD or RD? What about Liles
- bobbyflex

i agree that gunnerson is underrated and is pretty damn good. he's the guy that interests me the most on the leafs backend (obviously phaneuf and gardiner arent being moved)

as far as dealing gags, it just comes down to creating another hole. we have no one else who could step right in and fill that spot.
he hasnt put up huge pts, but has at least put up average 2nd line center numbers. which is more than can be said for any other centers we currently have...and there's still alot of development room for him.

dont really need liles..groomin schultz to be our pp qb, which whitney will be till that happens. at least for this year.

if ud have asked half way through last year id have probably said yes.
but now?..prob not. need a 2nd line center more than another 3rd pairing dman. i suppose its kinda close as franson could play some top 4 minutes.

isnt franson signed for the year in sweden though? wouldnt work as gags is only a 1 year contract.
he either puts up better numbers this year finally having some solid wingers and gets resigned. in which case he's way more valuable to us.
or he doesnt and probably walks/goes for very little

there's some gagner lovers round here that would hate u for even suggesting the deal..
- hugefemale dog77

I hate him for it....who am I kidding, I just hate....

Seriously tho' I think you covered it fairly well in that the team needs a proven 2nd line center more than another bottom 3 Dman.

As for MPS. I think he is finally getting his head wrapped slowly on how he needs to play in North America. I think he is still on track to be a solid 2-way 2nd line winger. He may not score (shooting % is terrible) but he is helping set others up.

On the idea of buying out Horcoff, Belanger and Eager. Cannot see it. They were the reason the f/o % was as good as it was and there is no one taking over that quite yet. I can see trading off Belanger as he never did as much as was expected of him. I look back and think he was insurance on the dot in case Nuge never stuck around then everyone moves up and then Belanger is the 3rd line center, which is where he should be, but that is where Horc is.

Horcoff's salary/cap hit is not a problem in Edm. It is not handcuffing the team signing anyone, not this year nor the next two years after. He and Belanger are tough zone face off guys. They are the PK face off guys. they are the defensive line centers. And there is no one to replace that function on the team.

Eager. Meh. He can be our added measure of toughness...if he would actually play that way. I can go either way on him.

I think its great the Oilers have 2 dmen named Schultz. Love it.

i agree that gunnerson is underrated and is pretty damn good. he's the guy that interests me the most on the leafs backend (obviously phaneuf and gardiner arent being moved)

as far as dealing gags, it just comes down to creating another hole. we have no one else who could step right in and fill that spot.
he hasnt put up huge pts, but has at least put up average 2nd line center numbers. which is more than can be said for any other centers we currently have...and there's still alot of development room for him.

dont really need liles..groomin schultz to be our pp qb, which whitney will be till that happens. at least for this year.
- hugefemale dog77

Not the popular decision but if no Gagner then Horc.

He put up 34 points last year in a mainly defensive role. He had 27 in 47 the year before and 36 in 77 the year before that. I used to hate the idea of relying on Horc as a 2nd line center, mostly because of the whole "stone hands" Horc perception, but he is a solid offensive center than can take important face offs. 20 g 40+p is not out of the realm for him.

I think its great the Oilers have 2 dmen named Schultz. Love it.
- systemtool

I hope they are paired together.

Not the popular decision but if no Gagner then Horc.

He put up 34 points last year in a mainly defensive role. He had 27 in 47 the year before and 36 in 77 the year before that. I used to hate the idea of relying on Horc as a 2nd line center, mostly because of the whole "stone hands" Horc perception, but he is a solid offensive center than can take important face offs. 20 g 40+p is not out of the realm for him.
- OilHorse

while you're essentially right, those horcoff numbers arent good enough for us moving forward. he could certainly fill in, but we need a more effective 2nd option after the big line.
even gags' numbers presently arent good enough imo. that was sorta my point.

horc brings a little more to the table with his faceoffs and defensive play etc. but the 40ish points is the most we could expect outta him now. which just isnt good enough for a 2 center on a contending team. (maybe if your first liners are all droppin 80 +. but that remains to be seen)

while gags has put up near 50, hes deficient in those other areas, and his size doesnt help an already small top 6.
difference is; i think he (gagner) could put up high 50's..maybe even 60. in that case we keep him. otherwise he can go, and we find another option. keeping horcoff in that 3rd slot.

im happy with horcoff at 3rd line center. it just feels like we're so much deeper and moving in the right direction with him there. we have no need to move him unless we can find someone to do his job and play those tough minutes as well as he does. a bruiser wouldnt hurt either

IF there is a season I can see the team getting off to a hit start. Most guys will be fresh and sharp.

while you're essentially right, those horcoff numbers arent good enough for us moving forward. he could certainly fill in, but we need a more effective 2nd option after the big line.
even gags' numbers presently arent good enough imo. that was sorta my point.

horc brings a little more to the table with his faceoffs and defensive play etc. but the 40ish points is the most we could expect outta him now.
while gags has put up near 50, hes deficient in those other areas, and his size doesnt help an already small top 6.

difference is i think he (gagner) could put up high 50's..maybe even 60. in that case we keep him. otherwise he can go, and we find another option. keeping horcoff in that 3rd slot.

im happy with horcoff at 3rd line center. we have no need to move horcoff unless we can find someone to do his job and play those tough minutes as well as he does. a bruiser wouldnt hurt either
- hugefemale dog77

While I am not looking to get into a pissing match over this let's not forget that on a weak, declining team Horc also had 3 straight 50+ point seasons, one of those he was a ppg player.

But my analysis is based off of No Gagner. I was almost ready to say a Gags.Horc.Yak/Hemsky line...but would think that that line would be too small/too weak defensively even with Horc.

If no Gags then Horc and Belanger move up a spot. Leaving the 4C spot open.

But do not get me wrong I like Nuge.Gag.Horc as our top 3 centers.

I see you've met my sister.
- laughs2907

watched a lot of edmonton just because of these blogs and man devan dubnyk doesn't get enough credit
- RyanZabizewski

His biggest problem is he hasn't been able to play well when the games actually mean anything. The past two years he gets hot when the #1 pick is in the bag.

With that being said, I have no problem with giving him the shot. If he becomes the weak link the next year or two, then you look to improve.