Thanks.......yeah, older I guess. I can remember as a 9 year old, seeing the Leafs hoist the Cup in glorious black and white. I can also remember the Ballard years and the dismemberment of the Sittler era team. I can remember the 80's and seeing the Leafs play sub 500 for almost the whole decade. I remember the 90's and the promise of the Gilmour/Clark era and always being one good forward away from the finals. I remember the 2000's and remember seeing the Leafs always a winger away from competing for the Cup. Then the last lockout and the JFJ debacle, just so Taninmonkey and his crew of socialist teachers could suck all of the cash out of the Leafs Nation. So Luongo? Piss on him, I'd rather tank one more year and have the number 1 centre and elite player that this team has missed for 30 years. Luongo get's us the 10th pick or worse!
- PrinceLH

there it is, and thats exactly why i gave you praise.

some good and bad memories for sure, and certainly of the older generation of leaf fans, i like it. a true fan goes through the ups, downs and inbetweens but still cheers on his team!

basically you are a 180 of UG

im with ya though, F Luongo! is he better than our current goalies? maybe, hard to tell...his career surely is, but there is more to it than that.

i want reimer to be our go to, i think hes got it in him.

This topic makes me wonder where Weirdoh is?
- The Law

lol its practically his bat signal isnt it?

I agree. If Luongo came to the Leafs and, if he starts letting in the soft goals like he did in Vancouver, it will get ugly very quickly.
- spatso

There is no need for it.

If, as reported, they turned down Vokoun, who WANTED to sign with the Leafs, I think that’s a stupid move. That’s precisely the kind of thing they should be looking for. A dependable, good veteran goalie, available for a reasonably short term contract. Two years at $2M or $3M? Yes please.

Now, if they can find another situation like that, it’d be perfect.

sorry Bruce, after looking back that came out SOooo soooo wrong!

it was more of a poke at vancouver for having half of the asian population of canada, nothing more.

anyhow, il just keep my little chirps to myself, but your right, it came out wrong!! my bad!!

There is no need for it.

If, as reported, they turned down Vokoun, who WANTED to sign with the Leafs, I think that’s a stupid move. That’s precisely the kind of thing they should be looking for. A dependable, good veteran goalie, available for a reasonably short term contract. Two years at $2M or $3M? Yes please.

Now, if they can find another situation like that, it’d be perfect.
- prock

speaking of turning down.

i am glad we turned down Cammelleri, just saying. i just dont care for him.

At this point, it’s probably about 40 games. I’d rather let Reimer take another stab at it, and hope his injury issues are behind him.

I mean, look at last year, anything can happen over a 40 game span. If there is a season, why not just let it ride and hope? What’s the worst that can happen? They fail a half season and get another top draft pick? I’m good with that too….

Plus, Luongo will be what, 34 by the time NEXT season starts? If there is no season this year, are you really on board with trading for a goalie that’s 34, an age that a good portion of players retire at?
- prock

With those conditions I listed ...yeah, I'd be okay with a trade. I'd be just as happy to see the year out with Reimer though and (likely) nail down another high pick - then walk into the summer with cap space, and more young talent.

Luongo doesn't strike as a happy back up. I think he'll retire the moment he realizes his days as a starter in the league are over. Goalies can play well into their late 30's and he's renowned for his fitness.

If my scouts tell me he's no longer a top 10 or 15 guy in the NHL then I pass ...If they tell me he's still a top tier guy, and the price is good, and I don't have to eat his retirement years as a cap hit then I'm okay with bringin him in.

Burke needs to pick a direction. If he's bringing in Luongo then he'd better have a fail-safe plan to get that #1 centre asap. If he's going to hope that Colborne, Kadri, etc... are going to fill that spot ....then take a pass on Luongo.

There is no need for it.

If, as reported, they turned down Vokoun, who WANTED to sign with the Leafs, I think that’s a stupid move. That’s precisely the kind of thing they should be looking for. A dependable, good veteran goalie, available for a reasonably short term contract. Two years at $2M or $3M? Yes please.

Now, if they can find another situation like that, it’d be perfect.
- prock

Tim Thomas?

lol its practically his bat signal isnt it?
- Dozzer

remember the reimer signal?

LOL the optimus helmet in the sky!! legendary!

under 80 games. 14 games one year, 64 the next. Along with 110 PIMs.

Like many other things Leafs, it wasn't a bad move, just turned out bad. Owen Nolan was just 30 when they traded for him, and played over 70 games all but a couple of the preceding 7 or 8 seasons. And over 60 EVERY season. It's not like they picked up some guy that habitually played 20 games a year.

And a winger that could pot 60 points over a full season, along with beating the hell out of the opposition night in night out, is a guy you trade for, when you’re contending for a cup. At the time, he was still very much a Lucic type guy. He caught a rut in the ice, and that was it. For his career, for the most part.

You can look back over those years and see a lot of traded draft picks for guys that didn’t work out. But those trades made perfect sense over those years, because the Leafs were contenders. That’s what you do, when you’re gunning for a cup. Trades for guys like Owen Nolan, and Brian Leetch, may look bad in hindsight, but given the chance, in that situation, I would personally do it again every time.

It’s the trades of draft picks after the lockout, when they were nowhere near contenders, that you should be criticizing. Raycroft for Rask, Kessel for draft picks, etc, etc, etc. Those are the ones you shake your head at.

And, I guess this is how it went this way in the first place, exactly why the Leafs shouldn't trade away a single young player with potential for Luongo.
- prock

Nah, they made plenty of trades at all points in history which deserve critisism.
...but not Kurvers for Neidermayer, that one was awesome.

There is no need for it.

If, as reported, they turned down Vokoun, who WANTED to sign with the Leafs, I think that’s a stupid move. That’s precisely the kind of thing they should be looking for. A dependable, good veteran goalie, available for a reasonably short term contract. Two years at $2M or $3M? Yes please.

Now, if they can find another situation like that, it’d be perfect.
- prock

Agreed ....Backstrom next summer might be a fit.

With those conditions I listed ...yeah, I'd be okay with a trade. I'd be just as happy to see the year out with Reimer though and (likely) nail down another high pick - then walk into the summer with cap space, and more young talent.

Luongo doesn't strike as a happy back up. I think he'll retire the moment he realizes his days as a starter in the league are over. Goalies can play well into their late 30's and he's renowned for his fitness.

If my scouts tell me he's no longer a top 10 or 15 guy in the NHL then I pass ...If they tell me he's still a top tier guy, and the price is good, and I don't have to eat his retirement years as a cap hit then I'm okay with bringin him in.

Burke needs to pick a direction. If he's bringing in Luongo then he'd better have a fail-safe plan to get that #1 centre asap. If he's going to hope that Colborne, Kadri, etc... are going to fill that spot ....then take a pass on Luongo.
- The Law

Could've just said "maybe" or I don't know" instread of writing a bunch of filler.

Kessel for Luongo.

Kessel is walking anyways might as well get a decent return.

I'm sure all Leaf fans will agree with me here.
- robin_steele264

There are times when you can have some fun and there other times to being just a disturber and pain in the ass, this is one of those times.

speaking of turning down.

i am glad we turned down Cammelleri, just saying. i just dont care for him.
- big_dion

I would have signed him instead of trading for Kessel.

Could've just said "maybe" or I don't know" instread of writing a bunch of filler.
- PatC80

Somebody told me you needed a lot of explanation.

speaking of turning down.

i am glad we turned down Cammelleri, just saying. i just dont care for him.
- big_dion

...see, now this is where I get pissy.
keep seguin, hamilton and knight and sign cammelleri.....OR.... have Kessel?

Tim Thomas?
- PatC80

id rather allen bester come back.

Why do people keep saying Bozak would be a good 3rd line centre?

He has no sandpaper in his toolbox.

Agreed ....Backstrom next summer might be a fit.
- The Law

I'd be totally on board with that.

That said, with the recent news on Harding, I doubt they’ll be letting him go anywhere.

...see, now this is where I get pissy.
keep seguin, hamilton and knight and sign cammelleri.....OR.... have Kessel?
- Barx

Yes.

*that answer's for you PatC80

Why do people keep saying Bozak would be a good 3rd line centre?

He has no sandpaper in his toolbox.
- Atomic Wedgie

so... pretty versatile, good defensively, can still put the puck in the net.

It`s not like Peca was a tough guy. Pretty solid defensively, and great for checking line duties.

sorry Bruce, after looking back that came out SOooo soooo wrong!

it was more of a poke at vancouver for having half of the asian population of canada, nothing more.

anyhow, il just keep my little chirps to myself, but your right, it came out wrong!! my bad!!
- big_dion

not a problem.. we all lose our poop when it comes to luongo lol

id rather allen bester come back.
- big_dion

I heard jiri crha is still keeping himself in good shape.

I would have signed him instead of trading for Kessel.
- prock

i heard he wanted 5.5-6 mil per season.

but yes in retrospect to look back now, kessel or cam + picks...

thats when it hurts, nobody knew we were giving up Seguin or Hall though...im sure burke figured he would end up in the middle of the pack.

A veteran goaltender as a UFA, to back up Reimer is not a bad idea. I'd also be comfortable with Scrivens, since he's being playing all year and is in shape. Luongo is a bad idea, because he's been sitting around, waiting for the lockout to end and probably isn't in game shape. Heaven knows, a guy that's 34 won't bounce back as quickly. Better to leave him in Vancouver, play our young guys, then play out the last 3 months of the season as a bottom feeder and scoop up an elite draft pick. That's if, there's a season to be played out. It's more of a crapshoot, trying to land that elite talent, if it's lottery driven, because there is no season. Last time around, the Habs were able to drop all the way down to the 5th pick and grab Cary Price. They wouldn't have landed him, if there had been a season that year. We picked 21st! Even with 3 balls in the tank, we'd still probably be unlucky and draft 11th!

Why do people keep saying Bozak would be a good 3rd line centre?

He has no sandpaper in his toolbox.
- Atomic Wedgie

He was trying to step up his shift-disturber game on Halloween.