What did Bure ever do to you?
- fiveandagame

Someone with the user name RussianRocket cracked his aces.

I'm a huge Bure fan, but I'm pretty indifferent to his jersey getting retired. It doesn't really add anything to his contributions here. Maybe it heals the wound left by his acrimonious hold out and trade, but I enjoyed watching Jovo. Despite being the best player we've ever had, Bure didn't mean what Smyl, Linden or even Naslund did to the club. I'm fine with it happening or not.
- micah555

Please. Naslund? How far did he ever get you guys in the playoffs? He was the best Canuck in an era when they SHOULD have won a lot more than they did. Bure took you guys to the Finals and had back to back 60 goal seasons. Was way more important to the team than Naslund and his boring personality ever were.

Bure was disrespected by the Canucks management from the very minute he stepped on North American soil. When Canucks brass met him in LA for the very first time, they demanded the hotel fee be returned by Bure. Later he was in dispute about contract issues and they sounded kind of unreasonable but he was only expecting what was agreed on.

This is the same management team who blew the Gretzky signing because they refused to back off 2am in the middle of the night. They wouldnt wait til morning and gave him the now or never altimatum. These things would never happen under a GM like Gillis.

Canucks should sign him to a one game contract give him a shift or 2 to then retire his jersey after the game on a Saturday hockey night in Canada. I guarantee you will never hear a crowd as loud until we reach another game 7. Yes I dream big but its something I wouldn't miss in a million years.

Bure was disrespected by the Canucks management from the very minute he stepped on North American soil. When Canucks brass met him in LA for the very first time, they demanded the hotel fee be returned by Bure. Later he was in dispute about contract issues and they sounded kind of unreasonable but he was only expecting what was agreed on.

This is the same management team who blew the Gretzky signing because they refused to back off 2am in the middle of the night. They wouldnt wait til morning and gave him the now or never altimatum. These things would never happen under a GM like Gillis.
- boonerbuck

I think the Canucks management also signed Bure to a contract in Canadian dollars, which was unheard of. All contracts even for Canadian teams were always in US dollars. At the time the Canadian dollar was trading at about .60 cents on the US dollar. And people wonder why Bure has been hesitant to be a part of a Canucks celebration.

Becasue we missed out on Gretzky we ended up with Messier.

Canucks should sign him to a one game contract give him a shift or 2 to then retire his jersey after the game on a Saturday hockey night in Canada. I guarantee you will never hear a crowd as loud until we reach another game 7. Yes I dream big but its something I wouldn't miss in a million years.
- thundachunk

Sign him to a 1 year contract. Even with bad knees, he can't be worse then Raymond.

I'm a huge Bure fan, but I'm pretty indifferent to his jersey getting retired. It doesn't really add anything to his contributions here. Maybe it heals the wound left by his acrimonious hold out and trade, but I enjoyed watching Jovo. Despite being the best player we've ever had, Bure didn't mean what Smyl, Linden or even Naslund did to the club. I'm fine with it happening or not.
- micah555

You go sign a 5 year contract for $20/hour. Then see what happens when you're pay stub comes in that your actually getting payed about $7/hour. See how much you want to stick around. At least he brought it everytime he played. Our management (frank)ed him, no way around it. Gillis should have caught it too as his agent...and people wonder why he doesn't want nothing to do with the club ran by Gillis. IMHO best player to ever wear a Nucks jersey...shoulda had his number up there long before naslund, I know people loved Nazzy as did I but I think the ROH would have been better suited for him.

Kassian has been suspended.

Edit: 1 game for a stick throwing incident.

I think the Canucks management also signed Bure to a contract in Canadian dollars, which was unheard of. All contracts even for Canadian teams were always in US dollars. At the time the Canadian dollar was trading at about .60 cents on the US dollar. And people wonder why Bure has been hesitant to be a part of a Canucks celebration.
because we missed out on Gretzky we ended up with Messier.
- fiveandagame

He was under the impression he'd be making 5.5 mill US/year, and ended up having a 2mill Can/year contract.

I think the deal there was he wanted the same as federov's extension which was 5.5/year. But they signed him to the same deal Federov was on before the extension kicked in.

Sign him to a 1 year contract. Even with bad knees, he can't be worse then Raymond.
- fiveandagame

agreed

Ian Esplen: Time to Get'er Done
10 to the top
- IanEsplen

Nope. Never.

Only heroes deserve to be sent to the rafters. #10 was not a hero. Great (frank)ing player. Exciting, incredibly skilled, with a bit of a mean streak. The best player to ever wear a canuck jersey.

But he's not a hero.

Nope. Never.

Only heroes deserve to be sent to the rafters. #10 was not a hero. Great (frank)ing player. Exciting, incredibly skilled, with a bit of a mean streak. The best player to ever wear a canuck jersey.

But he's not a hero.
- bloatedmosquito

Surely you don't think Naslund is more deserving than Bure? He done nothing heroic for the Canucks at all. Sure he was great in the community... Maybe his jersey should be hanging at city hall instead of the current location.

Sign him to a 1 year contract. Even with bad knees, he can't be worse then Raymond.
- fiveandagame

It's not that he has bad knees. It's the fact that he has no knees. I'm guessing he doesn't skate much at all.

Nope. Never.

Only heroes deserve to be sent to the rafters. #10 was not a hero. Great (frank)ing player. Exciting, incredibly skilled, with a bit of a mean streak. The best player to ever wear a canuck jersey.

But he's not a hero.
- bloatedmosquito

No hockey players are (frank)ing heroes.

Bure > Naslund > Smyl

Linden was just a great guy, no where near the best player the Canucks have had.

Surely you don't think Naslund is more deserving than Bure? He done nothing heroic for the Canucks at all. Sure he was great in the community... Maybe his jersey should be hanging at city hall instead of the current location.
- boonerbuck

As a hockey player, no comparison. Bure.
As a person who gave to the team and the community. Naslund.

You can't dismiss what he gave to the community beyond the ice. I work for the children's hospital and witnessed what he did. He was relentless. We as fans prop these guys up. Make them something more then they are. Naslund was more than just a chequebook. He spent a ton of time with kids who worshiped him. He understood what fans meant.

So Bure scored some pretty goals while skating really fast. Big (frank)ing deal. Not a hero.

As a hockey player, no comparison. Bure.
As a person who gave to the team and the community. Naslund.

You can't dismiss what he gave to the community beyond the ice. I work for the children's hospital and witnessed what he did. He was relentless. We as fans prop these guys up. Make them something more then they are. Naslund was more than just a chequebook. He spent a ton of time with kids who worshiped him. He understood what fans meant.

So Bure scored some pretty goals while skating really fast. Big (frank)ing deal. Not a hero.
- bloatedmosquito

You retire numbers for what they did on the ice, not off it.

http://teamradio.ca/news/pavel-bure-on-team1040/ pavels podcasted Interview..doesnt sound like he cares.........oh well

You retire numbers for what they did on the ice, not off it.
- Scooby_Doo

That's why I said earlier that (in my opinion) the rafters are reserved for our hockey heroes. Not just for hockey players with great stats. That's why Trevor's up there. Same with Stan.

Other fan bases like to compare our retired numbers with their retired numbers. Laughter usually follows and they are justified. In the stat books our guys don't hold up. But that doesn't matter. They are important to us for more than their stats.

That's why I said earlier that (in my opinion) the rafters are reserved for our hockey heroes. Not just for hockey players with great stats. That's why Trevor's up there. Same with Stan.

Other fan bases like to compare our retired numbers with their retired numbers. Laughter usually follows and they are justified. In the stat books our guys don't hold up. But that doesn't matter. They are important to us for more than their stats.
- bloatedmosquito

I agree. It's about more than just stats (though the stats are important).

Terry Fox and Rick Hansen are great examples of Canadian heroes. Why? Not because they were the best at anything, but because they had an indomitable spirit and they were committed to making things better for others with their efforts. That's what having your number retired for the Canucks really means, too, I think. Not that they were the best, but that they gave it all they had and they gave back to the community.

Nothing against Bure, but if management screwed him around and he wanted out as a result, the honour really isn't what it should be anyways.

That's why I said earlier that (in my opinion) the rafters are reserved for our hockey heroes. Not just for hockey players with great stats. That's why Trevor's up there. Same with Stan.

Other fan bases like to compare our retired numbers with their retired numbers. Laughter usually follows and they are justified. In the stat books our guys don't hold up. But that doesn't matter. They are important to us for more than their stats.
- bloatedmosquito

Its a shame you only see stats on the ice.

Out of Naslund, Smyl, Bure and Linden, only Naslund hasnt done anything heroic on the ice. The other players all had incredible heroics during Stanley Cup Final runs.

I'm on the fence whether Naslund should of had his jersey retired here. I was a fan of his but I don't feel the tradition is about what you say. You think Van has it's very own criteria for this based on giving to the community? I think that is only part of the consideration myself. The arenas would be wall papered with Jerseys otherwise and how is one guys charity more deserving of the honor than others? It kind of takes the humble out of giving... there are all kinds of community awards and acknowledgements for charity... this really isnt one of them.

I agree. It's about more than just stats (though the stats are important).

Terry Fox and Rick Hansen are great examples of Canadian heroes. Why? Not because they were the best at anything, but because they had an indomitable spirit and they were committed to making things better for others with their efforts. That's what having your number retired for the Canucks really means, too, I think. Not that they were the best, but that they gave it all they had and they gave back to the community.

Nothing against Bure, but if management screwed him around and he wanted out as a result, the honour really isn't what it should be anyways.
- micah555

I was going to 'fix' your last sentence by switching the word management with the word Messier but I thought it might belittle our POV.

Sometimes I can't help myself.

I agree. It's about more than just stats (though the stats are important).

Terry Fox and Rick Hansen are great examples of Canadian heroes. Why? Not because they were the best at anything, but because they had an indomitable spirit and they were committed to making things better for others with their efforts. That's what having your number retired for the Canucks really means, too, I think. Not that they were the best, but that they gave it all they had and they gave back to the community.

Nothing against Bure, but if management screwed him around and he wanted out as a result, the honour really isn't what it should be anyways.
- micah555

...and Naslund wouldnt play for the Canucks if the coach returned. He wanted out as well but he didnt request a trade having his contract soon exipring. Still, his loyalty eventually faded as well. There his Jersey is up in the rafters^^^^ after taking this team nowhere.

I was going to 'fix' your last sentence by switching the word management with the word Messier but I thought it might belittle our POV.

Sometimes I can't help myself.
- bloatedmosquito

Hearing Bure give credit to Messier in an interview last night made me chuckle a bit.

Hearing Bure give credit to Messier in an interview last night made me chuckle a bit.
- boonerbuck

Me too.

To be honest Bure seems so disinterested about the whole thing. I don't think it's a significant issue in his life at all.

That's probably why I'm so indifferent about the idea as well.