LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Offer sheets won't be allowed in the new CBA. |
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NOAH_U
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Location: Inside the Box Joined: 07.03.2010
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dominoes - drayno10
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20 years ago, yes but not so much now only because the Yankees can buy all their players and be a true empire while the NHL won't let that happen. - NickTheKid87
to be fair, all but 5 of the yankees titles were won prior to 1979 |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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Flyers aren't a small market team though so they'd match if it was a player like Giroux. - NickTheKid87
But with a cap, they can only spend so much. 2 or 3 offer sheets over the next few years, can have them up against the cap in a hurry. They best be careful. |
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Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French Joined: 07.01.2006
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There will be no summer break around here, stay tuned. |
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NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 11.19.2010
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to be fair, all but 5 of the yankees titles were won prior to 1979 - sensarmy_11
True but I'm more eluding to the idea that the Yankees can sign multiple top tier free agents and trade for elite players because the league isn't capped. No NHL team can be like the Yanks or Red Sox and Phillies for that matter although it hasn't been smooth sailing for the latter two. |
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NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 11.19.2010
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But with a cap, they can only spend so much. 2 or 3 offer sheets over the next few years, can have them up against the cap in a hurry. They best be careful. - bixll
I doubt Philly let's that happen. Do you honestly think they'd let it get to the point where Giroux, Couturier, etc. would sign an offer sheet? Part of the reason Weber signed one with the Flyers was so he could get a deal in place because Nashville was hesitant. You can't forget that the player needs to sign the offer sheet as well. |
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True but I'm more eluding to the idea that the Yankees can sign multiple top tier free agents and trade for elite players because the league isn't capped. No NHL team can be like the Yanks or Red Sox and Phillies for that matter although it hasn't been smooth sailing for the latter two. - NickTheKid87
*points to the Los Angeles Lakers*
Cap, sure, but Bryant/Gasol/Nash/Bynum on the same team? After all the other ludicrous lineups they've been able to roll out over the years? Our minds would boggle if the Heat didn't manage to pair Bosh and LeDecision with Wade. |
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NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 11.19.2010
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*points to the Los Angeles Lakers*
Cap, sure, but Bryant/Gasol/Nash/Bynum on the same team? After all the other ludicrous lineups they've been able to roll out over the years? Our minds would boggle if the Heat didn't manage to pair Bosh and LeDecision with Wade. - dilbert719
Well the NBA cap is a joke . But I'd say that you could make a case for the Lakers. |
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Van~Damage
Nashville Predators |
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Location: Breaking bricks at the Kumite Joined: 08.28.2009
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*points to the Los Angeles Lakers*
Cap, sure, but Bryant/Gasol/Nash/Bynum on the same team? After all the other ludicrous lineups they've been able to roll out over the years? Our minds would boggle if the Heat didn't manage to pair Bosh and LeDecision with Wade. - dilbert719
(frank) BASKETBALL
that is all |
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jimmc7722
New York Islanders |
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Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON Joined: 02.06.2008
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Burke doesn't like Offer Sheets... trying to eliminate them from the NHL.
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TJ
New York Rangers |
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Location: PA Joined: 11.27.2007
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Poor Toronto gets lumped in with the Flyers. Is that to spur traffic on this rumor site? Summer of rumors continues. |
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Bodhisattva
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Kitchener, ON Joined: 06.26.2012
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"If the current CBA contracting rules were to remain intact, would anyone really be all that shocked if some other team next summer offered a 23-year-old Pietrangelo a heavily frontloaded 20-year contract worth in excess of $200 million?"
Ummmm.....yes, I would be extremely shocked. Wouldn't everyone? Are you saying you wouldn't be shocked if such a thing actually happened? |
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i'm not saying i like them, but it's hard to deny their dominance. - sensarmy_11
Oh I agree it's the same with the Yankees. It's just ...
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I hate the Yanks but they have been a very well run organization. They spend tons of money on talent and more often than not they put a great product on the field. I would think the St.Louis Cardinals get an honorable mention too. But nothing comes close to them. - glove_was_stuck
While the Yanks win more games than most, based on how they outspend everyone else, they should be measured on championships only and they're failing there with only one in the last 10 years.
To summarize, the Yankees suck.
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spatso
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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I think the discussion is entirely upside down. Money is cheap today at 3%. So, as long as an ownership group can guarantee a loan there is no risk to a franchise losing any player they really want to retain. Franchises like Phoenix and New Jersey cold be in trouble if they are "technically" insolvent by being in default on any obligation.
The cost on $10m is only $300k. per year to accelerate the payment. The actual cost can be reworked in a new capitalization of the team finances. Most people don't understand that the Predators are much stronger financially because of the Weber deal and the changes it has caused in the capital structure of the ownership. People don't need to know the details of how it is done. Buffalo went from a non player to a big time player with the recapitalization of the team around Pagula.
The only teams that are vulnerable are the teams hard against the cap. I thought somebody would spot the Flyers weakness and make an offer to Voracek while the Weber offer remained outstanding. I believe that the Flyers are vulnerable for a couple more years. The guys that the Leafs should target are Giroux, Schenn and Couturier who come due at the same time.
Before that, Boston needs to make some moves or run the risk of losing Seguin.
Easy enough to understand the future. Ottawa paid the 21 year old Karlsson close to $7m for 7 years, no fuss, no mess, just do it. I assume a similar offers are coming for Pietranelo and Ekman-Larsson. |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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The only teams that are vulnerable are the teams hard against the cap. I thought somebody would spot the Flyers weakness and make an offer to Voracek while the Weber offer remained outstanding. I believe that the Flyers are vulnerable for a couple more years. The guys that the Leafs should target are Giroux, Schenn and Couturier who come due at the same time.
- spatso
This argument is old and crap...The Flyers always do whatever they want and everyone knows it... |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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[quote=Domidives]While the Yanks win more games than most, based on how they outspend everyone else, they should be measured on championships only and they're failing there with only one in the last 10 years.
To summarize, the Yankees suck. - HopintheCordoba[/quote]
Yes!!! Thank You!!!
Thanks for ruining the page... |
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spatso
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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"If the current CBA contracting rules were to remain intact, would anyone really be all that shocked if some other team next summer offered a 23-year-old Pietrangelo a heavily frontloaded 20-year contract worth in excess of $200 million?"
Ummmm.....yes, I would be extremely shocked. Wouldn't everyone? Are you saying you wouldn't be shocked if such a thing actually happened? - Bodhisattva
Just not going to happen. New CBA will place some restrictions on length of contract and the allowable pay out schedule. Once you establish a comparable for contract purposes it becomes a precedent for every subsequent contract. The front loaded contracts to Suter and Parise are the precedent. Weber merely extended the practice. So, all top star players will seek that feature in their new contracts unless the practice is limited by the new CBA.
My guess the only other guys who will get this kind of deal are Getzlaf and Perry and a few others who are in a position to do a new contract this year. Again the teams that are vulnerable are the Flyers and Bruins and a few others who have a cap issue. |
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HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
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Thanks for ruining the page... - Flyfreaky
No problem. Thats sort of what I think you do whenever I see you putting in your $0.02 |
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spatso
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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This argument is old and crap...The Flyers always do whatever they want and everyone knows it... - Flyfreaky
They just don't seem to be able to nail down the guys they want. I believe this is part of the way the CBA is working. Players are staying with their original teams and not moving as easily. And, the new CBA will add even more restrictions. |
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HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
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This argument is old and crap...The Flyers always do whatever they want and everyone knows it... - Flyfreaky
It's super effective too |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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No problem. Thats sort of what I think you do whenever I see you putting in your $0.02 - HopintheCordoba
I'm not taking this sitting down and might soon start putting in my $0.04... |
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