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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 30 @ 10:04 AM ET
Offer sheets won't be allowed in the new CBA.
NOAH_U
Location: Inside the Box
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 30 @ 10:05 AM ET
dominoes
- drayno10

sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 30 @ 10:06 AM ET
20 years ago, yes but not so much now only because the Yankees can buy all their players and be a true empire while the NHL won't let that happen.
- NickTheKid87


to be fair, all but 5 of the yankees titles were won prior to 1979
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 30 @ 10:11 AM ET
Flyers aren't a small market team though so they'd match if it was a player like Giroux.
- NickTheKid87


But with a cap, they can only spend so much. 2 or 3 offer sheets over the next few years, can have them up against the cap in a hurry. They best be careful.
Wolfpack12
Joined: 04.27.2012

Jul 30 @ 10:12 AM ET
Interview with Canadian World Junior Champion and now LA King Property Stefan Legein.

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Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jul 30 @ 10:14 AM ET
There will be no summer break around here, stay tuned.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 30 @ 10:16 AM ET
to be fair, all but 5 of the yankees titles were won prior to 1979
- sensarmy_11


True but I'm more eluding to the idea that the Yankees can sign multiple top tier free agents and trade for elite players because the league isn't capped. No NHL team can be like the Yanks or Red Sox and Phillies for that matter although it hasn't been smooth sailing for the latter two.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 30 @ 10:19 AM ET
But with a cap, they can only spend so much. 2 or 3 offer sheets over the next few years, can have them up against the cap in a hurry. They best be careful.
- bixll


I doubt Philly let's that happen. Do you honestly think they'd let it get to the point where Giroux, Couturier, etc. would sign an offer sheet? Part of the reason Weber signed one with the Flyers was so he could get a deal in place because Nashville was hesitant. You can't forget that the player needs to sign the offer sheet as well.
dilbert719
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.30.2006

Jul 30 @ 10:27 AM ET
True but I'm more eluding to the idea that the Yankees can sign multiple top tier free agents and trade for elite players because the league isn't capped. No NHL team can be like the Yanks or Red Sox and Phillies for that matter although it hasn't been smooth sailing for the latter two.
- NickTheKid87


*points to the Los Angeles Lakers*

Cap, sure, but Bryant/Gasol/Nash/Bynum on the same team? After all the other ludicrous lineups they've been able to roll out over the years? Our minds would boggle if the Heat didn't manage to pair Bosh and LeDecision with Wade.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 30 @ 10:37 AM ET
*points to the Los Angeles Lakers*

Cap, sure, but Bryant/Gasol/Nash/Bynum on the same team? After all the other ludicrous lineups they've been able to roll out over the years? Our minds would boggle if the Heat didn't manage to pair Bosh and LeDecision with Wade.

- dilbert719


Well the NBA cap is a joke . But I'd say that you could make a case for the Lakers.
Van~Damage
Nashville Predators
Location: Breaking bricks at the Kumite
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 30 @ 10:45 AM ET
*points to the Los Angeles Lakers*

Cap, sure, but Bryant/Gasol/Nash/Bynum on the same team? After all the other ludicrous lineups they've been able to roll out over the years? Our minds would boggle if the Heat didn't manage to pair Bosh and LeDecision with Wade.

- dilbert719



(frank) BASKETBALL



that is all
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jul 30 @ 10:56 AM ET
Burke doesn't like Offer Sheets... trying to eliminate them from the NHL.

TJ
New York Rangers
Location: PA
Joined: 11.27.2007

Jul 30 @ 10:56 AM ET
Poor Toronto gets lumped in with the Flyers. Is that to spur traffic on this rumor site? Summer of rumors continues.
Bodhisattva
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Kitchener, ON
Joined: 06.26.2012

Jul 30 @ 10:57 AM ET
"If the current CBA contracting rules were to remain intact, would anyone really be all that shocked if some other team next summer offered a 23-year-old Pietrangelo a heavily frontloaded 20-year contract worth in excess of $200 million?"

Ummmm.....yes, I would be extremely shocked. Wouldn't everyone? Are you saying you wouldn't be shocked if such a thing actually happened?
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jul 30 @ 10:59 AM ET
i'm not saying i like them, but it's hard to deny their dominance.
- sensarmy_11


Oh I agree it's the same with the Yankees. It's just ...
Domidives
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 30 @ 11:00 AM ET
I hate the Yanks but they have been a very well run organization. They spend tons of money on talent and more often than not they put a great product on the field. I would think the St.Louis Cardinals get an honorable mention too. But nothing comes close to them.
- glove_was_stuck




While the Yanks win more games than most, based on how they outspend everyone else, they should be measured on championships only and they're failing there with only one in the last 10 years.

To summarize, the Yankees suck.


spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 30 @ 11:05 AM ET
I think the discussion is entirely upside down. Money is cheap today at 3%. So, as long as an ownership group can guarantee a loan there is no risk to a franchise losing any player they really want to retain. Franchises like Phoenix and New Jersey cold be in trouble if they are "technically" insolvent by being in default on any obligation.

The cost on $10m is only $300k. per year to accelerate the payment. The actual cost can be reworked in a new capitalization of the team finances. Most people don't understand that the Predators are much stronger financially because of the Weber deal and the changes it has caused in the capital structure of the ownership. People don't need to know the details of how it is done. Buffalo went from a non player to a big time player with the recapitalization of the team around Pagula.

The only teams that are vulnerable are the teams hard against the cap. I thought somebody would spot the Flyers weakness and make an offer to Voracek while the Weber offer remained outstanding. I believe that the Flyers are vulnerable for a couple more years. The guys that the Leafs should target are Giroux, Schenn and Couturier who come due at the same time.

Before that, Boston needs to make some moves or run the risk of losing Seguin.

Easy enough to understand the future. Ottawa paid the 21 year old Karlsson close to $7m for 7 years, no fuss, no mess, just do it. I assume a similar offers are coming for Pietranelo and Ekman-Larsson.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 30 @ 11:09 AM ET
Eklund: Could These Players be 2013 Offer Sheet Candidates?
- Eklund

Yes, they're that damn good...
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 30 @ 11:12 AM ET

The only teams that are vulnerable are the teams hard against the cap. I thought somebody would spot the Flyers weakness and make an offer to Voracek while the Weber offer remained outstanding. I believe that the Flyers are vulnerable for a couple more years. The guys that the Leafs should target are Giroux, Schenn and Couturier who come due at the same time.

- spatso

This argument is old and crap...The Flyers always do whatever they want and everyone knows it...
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 30 @ 11:14 AM ET
[quote=Domidives]While the Yanks win more games than most, based on how they outspend everyone else, they should be measured on championships only and they're failing there with only one in the last 10 years.

To summarize, the Yankees suck.

- HopintheCordoba[/quote
]

Yes!!! Thank You!!!

Thanks for ruining the page...
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 30 @ 11:14 AM ET
"If the current CBA contracting rules were to remain intact, would anyone really be all that shocked if some other team next summer offered a 23-year-old Pietrangelo a heavily frontloaded 20-year contract worth in excess of $200 million?"

Ummmm.....yes, I would be extremely shocked. Wouldn't everyone? Are you saying you wouldn't be shocked if such a thing actually happened?

- Bodhisattva


Just not going to happen. New CBA will place some restrictions on length of contract and the allowable pay out schedule. Once you establish a comparable for contract purposes it becomes a precedent for every subsequent contract. The front loaded contracts to Suter and Parise are the precedent. Weber merely extended the practice. So, all top star players will seek that feature in their new contracts unless the practice is limited by the new CBA.

My guess the only other guys who will get this kind of deal are Getzlaf and Perry and a few others who are in a position to do a new contract this year. Again the teams that are vulnerable are the Flyers and Bruins and a few others who have a cap issue.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jul 30 @ 11:16 AM ET
Thanks for ruining the page...
- Flyfreaky


No problem. Thats sort of what I think you do whenever I see you putting in your $0.02
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 30 @ 11:17 AM ET
This argument is old and crap...The Flyers always do whatever they want and everyone knows it...
- Flyfreaky


They just don't seem to be able to nail down the guys they want. I believe this is part of the way the CBA is working. Players are staying with their original teams and not moving as easily. And, the new CBA will add even more restrictions.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jul 30 @ 11:17 AM ET
This argument is old and crap...The Flyers always do whatever they want and everyone knows it...
- Flyfreaky


It's super effective too
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 30 @ 11:20 AM ET
No problem. Thats sort of what I think you do whenever I see you putting in your $0.02
- HopintheCordoba

I'm not taking this sitting down and might soon start putting in my $0.04...
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