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prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Apr 20 @ 7:38 PM ET
Burke could've (and should've) fired him 1-2 years ago.
- daeth


Regardless, he did now. And realistically, there is no way they shouldn't have made the playoffs.

There are a few teams with less of a roster still playing hockey right now.
Asquaredx2
Ottawa Senators
Location: Oh no I wasn't so stfu and I'm
Joined: 02.18.2007

Apr 20 @ 8:14 PM ET
I remember when the Habs called up Subban and he was thrown in the fire, right into the playoffs.

He played his best hockey.

- Pecafan Fan


True enough. He was much more used to North American hockey/North American rink sizes than Silfverberg though.

Also depending on how tomorrow's game goes Silfverberg's first NHL game ever might be a playoff elimination game. Hopefully the Sens win tomorrow night though.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 20 @ 9:11 PM ET
Regardless, he did now. And realistically, there is no way they shouldn't have made the playoffs.

There are a few teams with less of a roster still playing hockey right now.

- prock

lol
Shutdown
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: ;ets jist see, NC
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Apr 20 @ 9:17 PM ET
Regardless, he did now. And realistically, there is no way they shouldn't have made the playoffs.

There are a few teams with less of a roster still playing hockey right now.

- prock

which ones specifically, outside of ottawa because that's obviously the first one you were going to type.
Mr_Squeaks
Ottawa Senators
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Apr 20 @ 9:28 PM ET
True enough. He was much more used to North American hockey/North American rink sizes than Silfverberg though.

Also depending on how tomorrow's game goes Silfverberg's first NHL game ever might be a playoff elimination game. Hopefully the Sens win tomorrow night though.

- Asquaredx2


Either way, if he plays Monday it's an elimination game... would he be fighting for survival or first-round glory, that's the question.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Apr 20 @ 9:29 PM ET
which ones specifically, outside of ottawa because that's obviously the first one you were going to type.
- Shutdown



Panthers comes to mind too. Some decent D, but...

What phoenix is doing with THAT roster is nothing short of incredible.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 21 @ 10:32 AM ET
Panthers comes to mind too. Some decent D, but...

What phoenix is doing with THAT roster is nothing short of incredible.

- prock


Now that Portland's season is done, they've called up Rundblad, so look for him to lead them to at least the Conference finals.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
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Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 21 @ 11:21 AM ET
Asking a kid to play his first NHL games in the crucial part of an NHL series is asking a lot. Then there's the jetlag and the fact that he's probably (and deservedly) partying right now.

On the other hand it doesn't hurt to have him over because if the Sens advance it'd probably be easier for him to adapt to the NHL and maybe get into some games, and if not (*knock on wood*) then he'd still be able to go back for the WHCs.

- Asquaredx2



I'm thinking that Paul MacLean will consider Daugavins to replace Winchester in the line up tonight. There was been some talk about Hoffman though, so he could also be a possibility.

When Jakob Silfverberg arrive in Ottawa Sunday, I kinda agree with you that it would hard to insert him into the NHL playoffs with little or no real experience with the NA style of game. If there's anyone more "NHL ready" it's Hoffman or even a long shot like Stone before Silfverberg.
sens rock
Joined: 09.30.2007

Apr 21 @ 3:13 PM ET
I'm thinking that Paul MacLean will consider Daugavins to replace Winchester in the line up tonight. There was been some talk about Hoffman though, so he could also be a possibility.

When Jakob Silfverberg arrive in Ottawa Sunday, I kinda agree with you that it would hard to insert him into the NHL playoffs with little or no real experience with the NA style of game. If there's anyone more "NHL ready" it's Hoffman or even a long shot like Stone before Silfverberg.

- Doppleganger


Stone no longer a long shot. Looks like he is in for tonight based on reports from morning skate and press conference.
sens rock
Joined: 09.30.2007

Apr 21 @ 4:09 PM ET
Regardless, he did now. And realistically, there is no way they shouldn't have made the playoffs.

There are a few teams with less of a roster still playing hockey right now.

- prock


Too bad for the leafs the game isn't played on paper
prock
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Apr 21 @ 4:49 PM ET
Too bad for the leafs the game isn't played on paper
- sens rock


And yet, if you don't have a top team, even on paper, you'll never be a contender.
sens rock
Joined: 09.30.2007

Apr 21 @ 4:55 PM ET
And yet, if you don't have a top team, even on paper, you'll never be a contender.
- prock


I don't think Carolina or Tampa cared much that they weren't considered contenders because of their paper roster when they won cups.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 21 @ 5:02 PM ET
Stone no longer a long shot. Looks like he is in for tonight based on reports from morning skate and press conference.
- sens rock


If he does, he'll become only the twelfth teenager ever to have his first NHL game be a playoff game. The others were...........
Gary Leeman
Bob Halkidis
Dan Vincelette
Troy Crowder
Daniel Marois
Gaye Stewart
Rod Brind'Amour
Mike Modano
Jarome Iginla
Gerry Couture
Marcel Pronovost
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Apr 21 @ 5:03 PM ET
I don't think Carolina or Tampa cared much that they weren't considered contenders because of their paper roster when they won cups.
- sens rock


Umm, what? Have you looked at those rosters?
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Apr 21 @ 5:04 PM ET
Umm, what? Have you looked at those rosters?
- prock

You contend that the Leafs have a better team then the Coyotes who have now made the playoffs three straight seasons?
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 21 @ 5:13 PM ET
You contend that the Leafs have a better team then the Coyotes who have now made the playoffs three straight seasons?
- Cape Breton Bruins


He also contends that the leafs are "Miles and Miles better" than the Senators in every aspect of their respective organizations.


The Sens are still the bottom feeding crap of the division. the Leafs? Miles and miles better.
- prock

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sens rock
Joined: 09.30.2007

Apr 21 @ 5:14 PM ET
Umm, what? Have you looked at those rosters?
- prock


tampa had a very thin roster after their top players.

carolina's starting goaltender going into the playoffs was gerber with ward as a rookie as his backup.

while they had decent regular seasons i dont think many analysts took them to be condenters for the cup.
sens rock
Joined: 09.30.2007

Apr 21 @ 5:16 PM ET
You contend that the Leafs have a better team then the Coyotes who have now made the playoffs three straight seasons?
- Cape Breton Bruins


and then sens and panthers have finished ahead of the leafs in 2 of those 3 years.
sens rock
Joined: 09.30.2007

Apr 21 @ 5:16 PM ET
He also contends that the leafs are "Miles and Miles ahead" of the Senators in every aspect of their respective organizations.
- Doppleganger


didn't he also say it would be a disgrace if any team in the northeast finished below the sens?
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
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Apr 21 @ 5:27 PM ET
didn't he also say it would be a disgrace if any team in the northeast finished below the sens?
- sens rock




No its not. The sens don't measure up with anyone. They'll be fifth barring a disaster of epic proportions by another team. They're the worst in the division at every position.
- prock[
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prock
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Apr 21 @ 5:33 PM ET
You contend that the Leafs have a better team then the Coyotes who have now made the playoffs three straight seasons?
- Cape Breton Bruins


The yotes are quite clearly doing what they're doing based on a solid defensive system. Their roster is incredibly unimpressive.

Its not like there was a huge difference between the 08/09 roster, that was a basement dweller for quite some time, and the 09/10 roster, that put up 110 points.

Where would you the say the difference came from? And now that they've dumped turris they're breaking through that first round barrier.
Shutdown
Carolina Hurricanes
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Apr 21 @ 6:07 PM ET
The yotes are quite clearly doing what they're doing based on a solid defensive system. Their roster is incredibly unimpressive.

Its not like there was a huge difference between the 08/09 roster, that was a basement dweller for quite some time, and the 09/10 roster, that put up 110 points.

Where would you the say the difference came from? And now that they've dumped turris they're breaking through that first round barrier.

- prock

YEAH THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Apr 21 @ 6:10 PM ET
YEAH THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE
- Shutdown


That last bit was just for fun.
Shutdown
Carolina Hurricanes
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Apr 21 @ 6:12 PM ET
That last bit was just for fun.
- prock

yeah, for fun.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 21 @ 6:17 PM ET
yeah, for fun.
- Shutdown


It was fun for me.
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