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top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Apr 6 @ 3:01 PM ET
In what sense?

As a team currently? Organizatioonal shape as a whole? All of history?

- prock

All of the above who cares about cup wins in a six team league
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 6 @ 4:43 PM ET
So now you think the statement is stupid too?
- prock



Yes, your original statement that discounted anything accomplished by the prospects that were part of the Binghamton Senators Calder Cup winning playoff run last year was stupid.

That's why I called you out on that. Your blind hatred of anything related to Ottawa makes you post so many embarrassing statements, that you've had nothing but a steady diet of crow for a month or so now.

Do you still maintain that the leafs are "mile and miles ahead of the Senators in every conceivable category"??
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: Friends with a GREAT MAN, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 7 @ 11:30 AM ET
Sens need everything to go perfect to get about 11th spot, and a other teams to tank out along with that. There is one top 6 player on the roster, now that Alfredsson looks to be done for.
- prock

lol
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: Friends with a GREAT MAN, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 7 @ 11:31 AM ET
I love how Tyler Bozak was better than Daniel Alfredsson last year, and Doppeldouche thinks he's still a good forward.
- prock

lol
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: Friends with a GREAT MAN, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 7 @ 11:35 AM ET
I've already said I have no expectations of them staying where they are. And while I don't think Ron Wilson is a great coach, he's also not bad enough to let a pretty decent roster slip from where they are now, to the cellar of the East.
- prock

lol
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: Friends with a GREAT MAN, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 7 @ 11:37 AM ET
I think if you ask sabres fans they'll consider it a disaster.

Hey, things are drastically different than most expected. Maybe we can get a sens leafs first round matchup.

- prock

lol
Jayden
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.30.2010

Apr 7 @ 12:00 PM ET

lol @ pruk
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 7 @ 1:13 PM ET
Yes, your original statement that discounted anything accomplished by the prospects that were part of the Binghamton Senators Calder Cup winning playoff run last year was stupid.

That's why I called you out on that. Your blind hatred of anything related to Ottawa makes you post so many embarrassing statements, that you've had nothing but a steady diet of crow for a month or so now.

Do you still maintain that the leafs are "mile and miles ahead of the Senators in every conceivable category"??

- Doppleganger


Nice try. The playoffs were nowhere near finished at that time. You posted better AHL team = better prospects. Don't you find it funny I posted YOUR posts, and everyone called them stupid? They're your posts.
Shutdown
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: ;ets jist see, NC
Joined: 04.06.2008

Apr 7 @ 8:44 PM ET
the leafs are really really bad

do they do anything else or are they really committed to this whole "hockey" thing
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: Friends with a GREAT MAN, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 7 @ 10:02 PM ET
the leafs are really really bad

do they do anything else or are they really committed to this whole "hockey" thing

- Shutdown

Produce legions of misinformed, chest out fans that take arrogant pride in the most mundane of accomplishments.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Apr 7 @ 10:05 PM ET
Produce legions of misinformed, chest out fans that take arrogant pride in the most mundane of accomplishments.
- Cape Breton Bruins
LOL ,sad but its true in sme cases
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Apr 7 @ 10:05 PM ET
Produce legions of misinformed, chest out fans that take arrogant pride in the most mundane of accomplishments.
- Cape Breton Bruins
dp
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 8 @ 12:35 PM ET
Nice try. The playoffs were nowhere near finished at that time. You posted better AHL team = better prospects. Don't you find it funny I posted YOUR posts, and everyone called them stupid? They're your posts.
- prock



And by "everyone", you mean only you.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 8 @ 12:43 PM ET
Not lower tiered. They're horseshyt. Terrible. It's a roster that arguably doesn't belong in the NHL. I honestly think a game between the Ottawa Senators and the Toronto Marlies would be a close game. Or any other AHL team near the top of the league.
- prock



Sorry, but the Senators are busy preparing for the first round of the NHL playoffs.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: Friends with a GREAT MAN, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 8 @ 1:26 PM ET
Sorry, but the Senators are busy preparing for the first round of the NHL playoffs.
- Doppleganger

thats a good find
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 8 @ 1:49 PM ET
thats a good find
- Cape Breton Bruins


There are so many to choose from it's laughable.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 8 @ 5:20 PM ET
And by "everyone", you mean only you.
- Doppleganger


Umm, you didn't see the posts as soon as I re-posted your comment?

Surely you believe that the marlies being one of the best teams in the AHL means the Leafs have some of the best prospects in the league. You said the same of the Sens last year.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: Friends with a GREAT MAN, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 8 @ 7:06 PM ET
Umm, you didn't see the posts as soon as I re-posted your comment?

Surely you believe that the marlies being one of the best teams in the AHL means the Leafs have some of the best prospects in the league. You said the same of the Sens last year.

- prock

You think the Leafs have one of the best prospect pools in the NHL?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 8 @ 7:10 PM ET
You think the Leafs have one of the best prospect pools in the NHL?
- Cape Breton Bruins


I've never said what I believe. It was HIS statement, at this time last year, that a better AHL team means that a teams prospects are better. Using HIS logic, HE must believe that. Read his posts.


I would suggest that the Senators AHL team is a reflection on who may have a better group of prospects (at all positions) if you are comparing the two teams in Ontario.

- doppeldouche
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: Friends with a GREAT MAN, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 8 @ 7:11 PM ET
I've never said what I believe. It was HIS statement, at this time last year, that a better AHL team means that a teams prospects are better. Using HIS logic, HE must believe that. Read his posts.
- prock

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

i get it
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 8 @ 7:15 PM ET
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

i get it

- Cape Breton Bruins



See edit. I'll post again


I would suggest that the Senators AHL team is a reflection on who may have a better group of prospects (at all positions) if you are comparing the two teams in Ontario.

- doppeldouche


Hell, someone even mentioned that AHL results don't mean much.

It's not, many of the Leafs' top prospects are haven't gotten to the AHL yet.
- Schenn-Sational!


To which he replied.

How are the marlies doing??
- Doppleganger



prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 8 @ 7:36 PM ET
See edit. I'll post again



Hell, someone even mentioned that AHL results don't mean much.



To which he replied.

- prock


Another gem.

Hummmmmmmmmm Senators AHL club (lots of prospects) playing in the Calder Cup Finals, leafs AHL team finished 13th in conference, did not make the playoffs.............now I wonder how illogical it is to think that perhaps the prospect pool for the Senators is just a little deeper than the leafs prospect pool.

Perhaps if they had retained those first rounders they traded to the Bruins..........................

- Doppleganger


How this jacka$$ tries to pretend he didn't say these things is beyond me.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: Friends with a GREAT MAN, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 8 @ 8:56 PM ET
Another gem.



How this jacka$$ tries to pretend he didn't say these things is beyond me.

- prock

All that being said, who really does have the brighter future between the teams and why?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 8 @ 9:23 PM ET
All that being said, who really does have the brighter future between the teams and why?
- Cape Breton Bruins


The Sens had five more regulation wins (this season) than the Leafs. As far as the two NHL teams go, the Leafs were ahead last season, and if the Leafs had NHL goaltending from the beginning of the season, perhaps they would have had a few more wins than the Sens.

However, there is no disputing that Toronto has the better AHL team, and therefore the "prospects" in the Leafs system are doing better than the Sens "prospects" at the AHL level. To say otherwise is plain ridiculous.

All that being said, between now and the beginning of the next season could see a lot of changes on both clubs. The Leafs should draft a good prospect at (currently) the fifth position............or could make some trades, as could the Sens. Then there is the UFA season, and either team could make significant moves.

But as of right now, only the Leafs have players in their system who are still playing meaningful hockey games, while the Sens do not. So to argue that Sens prospects are better than the prospects in the Leaf system just does not hold any water outside of Ottawa.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: Friends with a GREAT MAN, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 8 @ 10:33 PM ET
The Sens had five more regulation wins (this season) than the Leafs. As far as the two NHL teams go, the Leafs were ahead last season, and if the Leafs had NHL goaltending from the beginning of the season, perhaps they would have had a few more wins than the Sens.

However, there is no disputing that Toronto has the better AHL team, and therefore the "prospects" in the Leafs system are doing better than the Sens "prospects" at the AHL level. To say otherwise is plain ridiculous.

All that being said, between now and the beginning of the next season could see a lot of changes on both clubs. The Leafs should draft a good prospect at (currently) the fifth position............or could make some trades, as could the Sens. Then there is the UFA season, and either team could make significant moves.

But as of right now, only the Leafs have players in their system who are still playing meaningful hockey games, while the Sens do not. So to argue that Sens prospects are better than the prospects in the Leaf system just does not hold any water outside of Ottawa.

- prock

How many players from Birmingham last year are on a Sens team gearing up to play in the Stanley Cup playoffs I wonder?
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