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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:06 PM ET
It's Pre-season ........ not the regular season. Don't put to much into how anyone plays vs teams with a handful of NHLers coasting through pre- season games.


Ottawa is not going to move up anyone, unless there's room on the roster ............. and in Chabot's case, he's on a two way contract, waiver exempt and there are 7 NHL D Men on one way contracts on the Senators roster............ there's only room for him if there's an injury .............. and IF he plays, and plays well enough to convince Boucher he's ready, then he might stay ................ but as I pointed out before ................ when the Senators hired Paul Boutilier, to (assistant) coach in Belleville that was a clear sign they had Chabot destined to play at the AHL level this season................. until he was ready to play at the NHL level, and there was room.

- D0PPELGANGER


You guys do have room though. It would not surprise me to see one or two young guys given a shot. What happens beyond that is anyone's guess, but would anyone be shocked if Chabot made the team out of camp.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:07 PM ET
There is ZERO OPEN SPOTS for D men on Ottawa's roster ....... they have seven NHL D Men on one way contracts.

there is only injury replacement space ............. please, tell me where you see an open spot?

- D0PPELGANGER


Oops, i guess my comment above makes no sense.

Maybe we see him as the 1st injury call up... or if someone really sucks?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 19 @ 7:39 PM ET
Oops, i guess my comment above makes no sense.

Maybe we see him as the 1st injury call up... or if someone really sucks?

- Aetherial


scoreboard of comments that don't make sense:

Aetherial: 1
Spatso: 17,352
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 19 @ 8:06 PM ET
scoreboard of comments that don't make sense:

Aetherial: 1
Spatso: 17,352

- Tumbleweed

Looks like we might go into overtime here, seems close
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: degenerate gamblers like yourself usually end up getting the big payoff. just keep at it.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 19 @ 8:55 PM ET
Looks like we might go into overtime here, seems close
- daeth


I know it seems like an insurmountable deficit, but I am just going to play my game, keep it simpleminded and take it one dumb-ass comment at a time.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 19 @ 9:05 PM ET
I know it seems like an insurmountable deficit, but I am just going to play my game, keep it simpleminded and take it one dumb-ass comment at a time.
- Aetherial

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 20 @ 6:23 AM ET
So, I guess we get to see some cuts today.

Logan Brown and Chlapik did more than enough to get another week and another game or two.

Harpur played a solid game as well.

Too much talk about Duchene. Price needs to come down. Understand Colorado wants a young Dman, picks and prospects.

No way Chabot is included in any Duchene discussions. I don't think Sens are open to moving Jaros either. Ceci (maybe), Borowiecki (yes), Wideman (yes), Claesson (yes), Englund (yes) Harpur (yes).

In regard to forwards, Brown (no) White (maybe) Chaplik (yes)
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 20 @ 7:53 AM ET
So, I guess we get to see some cuts today.

Logan Brown and Chlapik did more than enough to get another week and another game or two.

Harpur played a solid game as well.

Too much talk about Duchene. Price needs to come down. Understand Colorado wants a young Dman, picks and prospects.

No way Chabot is included in any Duchene discussions. I don't think Sens are open to moving Jaros either. Ceci (maybe), Borowiecki (yes), Wideman (yes), Claesson (yes), Englund (yes) Harpur (yes).

In regard to forwards, Brown (no) White (maybe) Chaplik (yes)

- spatso

Agreed on Chabot and Jaros- trading them for Duchene would be a "win now" move. The franchise needs to make sure it's ready for the looming rebuild, and they will be key pieces in that.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 20 @ 8:02 AM ET
Agreed on Chabot and Jaros- trading them for Duchene would be a "win now" move. The franchise needs to make sure it's ready for the looming rebuild, and they will be key pieces in that.
- Feeling Glucky?


Don't forget Logan Brown. He had a very solid game last night and deserves a chance to skate with stronger offensive players. Brown is playmaker more than a shooter. He has soft hands and makes beautiful passes. Would like to see him with Hoffman or Stone in his next game.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 20 @ 8:38 AM ET
17,354
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 20 @ 8:44 AM ET
No problem Ottawa carrying 8 Dmen to start season. Karlsson will not play the first few weeks. There are 2 short term openings on the roster today.

If a player logs 20 plus minutes of regular play he will be staying.

Ottawa needs another Dman that can impact puck possession, especially in terms of getting the puck out of their own end.

Karlsson
Claesson
Phaneuf
Ceci
Borowiecki
Wideman
Oduya
Chabot
Harpur
Englund
Big Slovak kid!

- spatso



Few Teams carry 8 D men, unless there is an injury ........ so the Sens may well do that .............. but once the 7 NHL D men, signed to NHL one way contracts are all healthy ........ Chabot is headed to Belleville ....................... unless he actualy beats out one of Karlsson, Ceci or Wideman ............ which I don't see happening soon.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 20 @ 8:44 AM ET
Sens in on Matt Duchene?

if there was a deal involving Ceci to be made....they should figure that out
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 20 @ 8:49 AM ET
Don't forget Logan Brown. He had a very solid game last night and deserves a chance to skate with stronger offensive players. Brown is playmaker more than a shooter. He has soft hands and makes beautiful passes. Would like to see him with Hoffman or Stone in his next game.
- spatso



He may hang around, like Chabot did last year ........., before being sent back to Junior for another season, like Chabot did last year.

Logan Brown will not make the NHL this year.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 20 @ 8:50 AM ET
Sens in on Matt Duchene?

if there was a deal involving Ceci to be made....they should figure that out

- senstroll



Ceci is one of the Coach's favourite D men, doubt he'd like him to be dealt.

senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 20 @ 8:59 AM ET
Ceci is one of the Coach's favourite D men, doubt he'd like him to be dealt.
- D0PPELGANGER


thats cool and all..but the priority should be making the team better
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 20 @ 9:06 AM ET
Ceci is one of the Coach's favourite D men, doubt he'd like him to be dealt.
- D0PPELGANGER


I agree.

But, I have started to wonder why Boucher is pumping Ceci so much.

He recently said Ceci has all the tools to be one of the top shut down D's in the league. What is he thinking?

Could Ceci be the shut down guy (right shot) playing with Chabot (left shot).

Just heard Pierre McGuire say he would not give up Chabot for Duchene, I agree.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 20 @ 9:10 AM ET
I agree.

But, I have started to wonder why Boucher is pumping Ceci so much.

He recently said Ceci has all the tools to be one of the top shut down D's in the league. What is he thinking?

Could Ceci be the shut down guy (right shot) playing with Chabot (left shot).

Just heard Pierre McGuire say he would not give up Chabot for Duchene, I agree.

- spatso

I feel like after giving up on his team, and acting like a moody little female dog in camp, Duchene has hurt his value. Would be silly to give up a good prospect for him.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 20 @ 9:18 AM ET
I feel like after giving up on his team, and acting like a moody little female dog in camp, Duchene has hurt his value. Would be silly to give up a good prospect for him.
- Feeling Glucky?


Duchene has been treated badly by the Avs for more than a year. Team that gets him will have a guy with something to prove. EVery team should have some interest at the right price.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 20 @ 9:32 AM ET
Duchene has been treated badly by the Avs for more than a year. Team that gets him will have a guy with something to prove. EVery team should have some interest at the right price.
- spatso

Teams always have interest in skilled centers, but the price is going to be lowered by his performance last year.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 20 @ 9:45 AM ET
I feel like after giving up on his team, and acting like a moody little female dog in camp, Duchene has hurt his value. Would be silly to give up a good prospect for him.
- Feeling Glucky?


The rumours have been around forever, I dont blame players for wanting to get something done if thats there plan. Its not the players fault the Avs have been a total poop show and have bad management
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 20 @ 9:45 AM ET
thats cool and all..but the priority should be making the team better
- senstroll


Sakic is another bad gm that probably over values Sesi. Dorionion could get lucky and move him.

Cesee, 1st, wihte. Heck, it would be well worth it for doorion to throw in a couple 2nds just to dump seeci.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 20 @ 9:52 AM ET
Hummmm ......... Sens Rookies beats leaf Rookies .

Sens "A" Squad beats leafs "B" squad at home
Sens "B" Squad beats leafs "A" squad on the road

Are any leaf fans worried about leafs inability to solidify their back up goal-tending situation?

Heard they took a hard run at signing Condon on the UFA market.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 20 @ 9:58 AM ET
Hummmm ......... Sens Rookies beats leaf Rookies .

Sens "A" Squad beats leafs "B" squad at home
Sens "B" Squad beats leafs "A" squad on the road

Are any leaf fans worried about leafs inability to solidify their back up goal-tending situation?

Heard they took a hard run at signing Condon on the UFA market.

- D0PPELGANGER

I'll be worried when it's games that matter.

We're ok with not winning the Colorado cup.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 20 @ 9:59 AM ET
The rumours have been around forever, I dont blame players for wanting to get something done if thats there plan. Its not the players fault the Avs have been a total poop show and have bad management
- senstroll

The player controls how he performs.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 20 @ 10:07 AM ET
Hummmm ......... Sens Rookies beats leaf Rookies .

Sens "A" Squad beats leafs "B" squad at home
Sens "B" Squad beats leafs "A" squad on the road

Are any leaf fans worried about leafs inability to solidify their back up goal-tending situation?

Heard they took a hard run at signing Condon on the UFA market.

- D0PPELGANGER




Story this morning about Condon saying no to Leafs And yes to Sens.
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