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winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver is ashamed to select Jake Virtanen
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 27 @ 10:07 AM ET


There is very little that I agree with your assessment of anything Senators related.


I'd be more inclined to agree with those who saw Lazar as a poor man's Patrice Bergeron, a hard worker, a solid 2nd-line 2-way center who can score close to 20 goals and be on the first unit PK, when assessed after he was drafted over a year ago.

He has put on about 10 to 15 pounds since then, so he is progressing in the right way.
- Doppleganger


Lazar has scored 39 points in 180 NHL games. You are beyond help. Bergeron's ass-cheese is more valuable than Lazar.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:14 AM ET
settle down. youre like 80 years old. nobody cares about womens golf.
- systemtool


Not sure. They are saying crowds today may break all records for women's golf. This kid is an amazing role model. She had a 295 yd drive yesterday. Great sports personality. Sponsored by the Sens.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:14 AM ET
And, she is a goalie.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:19 AM ET
Interesting point brought up on one of the Sports Networks a few weeks ago, they were pointing out that no team has been built around a Winger, and has gone on to win the Cup, since Montreal with Guy Lafleur.

The concensus in the NHL, to put together a Cup contender, is that you build around a Center, and if you look at all the Stanley Cup winners since Montreal with Lafleur, this seems to be quite true.

Imagine if a team had a high scoring Center like Getzlaf, Malkin, Crosby, Tavares, Stamkos or Seguin to build a Cup contender with, instead of a streaky one dimensional winger, who won't play defence or play the left wing (on 5 vs) when asked by the coach.

- Doppleganger



like Matthews?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:20 AM ET
I know you're not stupid.
I'm sure you've heard this many times.
Stanley cup contending teams are built with strength down the middle, starting with a good Starting goaltender and at least one good two way center.

That is how the majority of Stanley Cup winners have been built.

I know you know this to be true, and realize that the leafs don't have a NHL number one line, two way center, comparable to anyone in the above list.

The leafs are not going to be a Cup contender with a high scoring winger, who won't play a 200 foot game, as their center piece, and building the team around him.

- Doppleganger



so Turris fits where?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:21 AM ET
So you agree that the leafs don't have a first line center, that would be part of the puzzle that toronto has been trying to piece together to bring a Cup to toronto.


So how is toronto going to acquire the prototypical first line NHL center? By trading for him, as in the rumours involving Eric Stahl, by drafting him, as in Nylander?

- Doppleganger

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:23 AM ET
so Turris fits where?
- systemtool


Erik Karlsson is the best D man to play in the NHL in "more than 25 years."
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:23 AM ET
Please explain to us, how a team jammed up against the ceiling of the Cap, with a payroll full of expensive, cap busting, long-term, untradeable, albatross contracts...........is somehow in a better position going forward, that another team stocked with young dynamic players and prospects, that has practically the most Cap space in the NHL????


One team can't trade of move players to open up Cap space to bring in the players they need to become a Cup contender, while the other team does not have to trade of move anyone they don't want to, can sign any free agent, can trade for any player because they have zero cap issues.


It's quite clear that the team with Cap flexibility is in a way better position going forward than one which cannot improve it's roster through trades of UFA signings.

- Doppleganger



systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:24 AM ET
Erik Karlsson is the best D man to play in the NHL in "more than 25 years."
- spatso



good response to elite centers.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:25 AM ET
Not sure. They are saying crowds today may break all records for women's golf. This kid is an amazing role model. She had a 295 yd drive yesterday. Great sports personality. Sponsored by the Sens.
- spatso



yea but youre 80 and talking womens golf. pass.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:33 AM ET
yea but youre 80 and talking womens golf. pass.
- systemtool


She is a mega marketing machine but nobody is surprised that you missed again. From Globe and Mail:

Henderson’s big drive to stardom

The 19-year-old golfer from Smiths Falls, Ont. is taking the LPGA tour by storm, accruing millions of dollars in winnings and sponsorship deals on her way to becoming one of Canada’s most marketable athletes, Rachel Brady reports
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver is ashamed to select Jake Virtanen
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 27 @ 10:34 AM ET
Erik Karlsson is the best D man to play in the NHL in "more than 25 years."
- spatso


Karlsson is great, you should enjoy him this year and next and when he's a UFA after the 2018-19 season, Eugene will be checking the change in the couches (in vain) to try to re-sign him. Sorry Spatso
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:36 AM ET
She is a mega marketing machine but nobody is surprised that you missed again. From Globe and Mail:

Henderson’s big drive to stardom

The 19-year-old golfer from Smiths Falls, Ont. is taking the LPGA tour by storm, accruing millions of dollars in winnings and sponsorship deals on her way to becoming one of Canada’s most marketable athletes, Rachel Brady reports

- spatso



nobody cares about womens golf. unless youre 80.

im not even half that age. its all yours spatso. ill miss it again of it happens again. cause....womens golf.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:37 AM ET
Karlsson is great, you should enjoy him this year and next and when he's a UFA after the 2018-19 season, Eugene will be checking the change in the couches (in vain) to try to re-sign him. Sorry Spatso
- winsix



"Hey Karlsson can I borrow a few million bucks?"

"sure eugene, whats up?"

"i need to resign you"
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:43 AM ET
nobody cares about womens golf. unless youre 80.

im not even half that age. its all yours spatso. ill miss it again of it happens again. cause....womens golf.

- systemtool


After hockey my second love is business. Your a fool to say nobody cares about women's golf. Right now the women's tour is dominated by superb Asian players, primarily South Korean players. The tour, broadcasters and media are desperate for a fresh face and it turns out that Brook Henderson is first in line.

She is a huge story. Time to move out of your mother's basement, cut back on your drinking and get a life
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver is ashamed to select Jake Virtanen
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 27 @ 10:45 AM ET
"Hey Karlsson can I borrow a few million bucks?"

"sure eugene, whats up?"

"i need to resign you"

- systemtool


Sure Eugene: How much do you need? Keep in mind that the piece of sh!t Phaneuf makes $7 mil a year and based on that you will need $14 mil X 8. Never mind that the Sens are 20th in league revenue, 21st in attendance and can't sell out playoff games.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:54 AM ET
After hockey my second love is business. Your a fool to say nobody cares about women's golf. Right now the women's tour is dominated by superb Asian players, primarily South Korean players. The tour, broadcasters and media are desperate for a fresh face and it turns out that Brook Henderson is first in line.

She is a huge story. Time to move out of your mother's basement, cut back on your drinking and get a life

- spatso



oh the irony...


love that i hit your 80 year old nerve.

nobody cares. womens golf
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
Sure Eugene: How much do you need? Keep in mind that the piece of sh!t Phaneuf makes $7 mil a year and based on that you will need $14 mil X 8. Never mind that the Sens are 20th in league revenue, 21st in attendance and can't sell out playoff games.
- winsix



wait until they fall below the Leafs in the Standings for a few years. its gonna be a train wreck.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:58 AM ET
Sure Eugene: How much do you need? Keep in mind that the piece of sh!t Phaneuf makes $7 mil a year and based on that you will need $14 mil X 8. Never mind that the Sens are 20th in league revenue, 21st in attendance and can't sell out playoff games.
- winsix


Not sure of your point.

Not going to find anyone who is an Ottawa fan who will defend Melnyk.

Perhaps your not aware that Melnyk hacked some of the Ottawa threads on this site a few years ago because of the hostile commentary about his financial management.

Your not going to find any support of sympathy for Melnyk here.

Our best hope is that the multi billion project at LeBreton will result in his disappearing into the past as the new big money comes to the table.

Melnyk has been broke for a long time.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Aug 27 @ 11:04 AM ET
Not sure of your point.

Not going to find anyone who is an Ottawa fan who will defend Melnyk.

Perhaps your not aware that Melnyk hacked some of the Ottawa threads on this site a few years ago because of the hostile commentary about his financial management.

Your not going to find any support of sympathy for Melnyk here.

Our best hope is that the multi billion project at LeBreton will result in his disappearing into the past as the new big money comes to the table.

Melnyk has been broke for a long time.

- spatso


Read the title of this thread.


Also, this is an interesting little conspiracy theory.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 27 @ 11:06 AM ET
oh the irony...


love that i hit your 80 year old nerve.

nobody cares. womens golf

- systemtool


You need to check out the golf channel this afternoon and you might be stunned to discover the interest.

When you say nobody cares and, clearly, she is vey big sporting news...it becomes more about you and your disconnection from what is happening around you. This kind of isolation and the painful nature of much of your posting is like a cry for help.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 27 @ 11:07 AM ET
Read the title of this thread.


Also, this is an interesting little conspiracy theory.

- Feeling Glucky?


Exactly, all this has happened with our also having to carry Melnyk on our back.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 27 @ 11:16 AM ET
Karlsson named top Dman in hockey.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 27 @ 11:40 AM ET
You need to check out the golf channel this afternoon and you might be stunned to discover the interest.

When you say nobody cares and, clearly, she is vey big sporting news...it becomes more about you and your disconnection from what is happening around you. This kind of isolation and the painful nature of much of your posting is like a cry for help.

- spatso



pass. womens golf

spatso. youre 80 and an easy target to trigger.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 27 @ 11:48 AM ET
Karlsson named top Dman in hockey.
- spatso



Great player. Amazing talent.

Does a fantastic job carrying an otherwise mediocre roster.
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