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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 26 @ 9:27 AM ET
I have no difficulty with Chabot starting in Belleville. But he will not stay long. Karlsson did 15 games.
- spatso




Chabot is not Karlsson ........... Chabot will stay a lot longer than you think he will.

Ottawa lost Methot to the expansion draft, and that was enough to make the Senators defensive Corp weaker than last years, and inserting a rookie, into the top 4, as you are suggesting is not going to improve the overall defensive corp.

Chabot will stay in Belleville until such time he proves he knows his defensive responsibilities at the pro level, knows the "Boucher system" and earns a call up over other potential call ups (from Belleville) who have already played much more in the NHL and proven they can play Boucher's system.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 26 @ 9:39 AM ET
“He wanted to go to a team that had a chance to win,” Dorion said Monday. “I know for a fact that a team offered him more money and he chose to go to (Ottawa) just for the reason that he felt it was a better fit and they have a better chance to win.”

-TSN

On Oduya signing with Ottawa. No reason to believe that the team he said "no" to was the Leafs. But, we know that Condon did say "no" to the Leafs. Leafs go forward with huge questions in nets and on the blueline.

- spatso


Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:45 AM ET
C'mon man......... let's use a little common sense.

Chabot is on a two way contract, for the next three seasons, and Ottawa already has SEVEN defense men signed to one way contracts for this coming season.


What logical reason would Boucher choose to sit Borowiecki and or Wideman, and let Chabot learn the NHL pro game, on the fly, in the NHL?




Let's think about your "suggestion" that Chabot would be matched with Phaneuf ........... Phaneuf is much more of a "shutdown" type of D man, and that's the role he played, and excelled at last year with Ceci ............. so is Chabot known as a "shutdown" type of D Man, or perhaps more of an "offensive" type of D man?

Why do think Chabot is going to waltz into the NHL, with 07:06 minutes total of pro experience, and displace regular NHL D men from the roster?

- D0PPELGANGER


What if he shows in pre-season that he is capable of being effective in the NHL. Don't you have to at least give him his 9 games?

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:52 AM ET
“He wanted to go to a team that had a chance to win,” Dorion said Monday. “I know for a fact that a team offered him more money and he chose to go to (Ottawa) just for the reason that he felt it was a better fit and they have a better chance to win.”

-TSN

On Oduya signing with Ottawa. No reason to believe that the team he said "no" to was the Leafs. But, we know that Condon did say "no" to the Leafs. Leafs go forward with huge questions in nets and on the blueline.

- spatso


You do know that just pulling something out of your ass doesn't make it true, right?


Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 26 @ 9:54 AM ET
“He wanted to go to a team that had a chance to win,” Dorion said Monday. “I know for a fact that a team offered him more money and he chose to go to (Ottawa) just for the reason that he felt it was a better fit and they have a better chance to win.”

-TSN

On Oduya signing with Ottawa. No reason to believe that the team he said "no" to was the Leafs. But, we know that Condon did say "no" to the Leafs. Leafs go forward with huge questions in nets and on the blueline.

- spatso

It's true the Leafs have many more questions than the Sens... In fact, there really is only one question about the Sens worth asking this coming season: "How much will they regress- just miss the playoffs, or will they have a legit shot at #1 overall?"

I hope it's the former, but the latter seems possible, given their performance last season.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:54 AM ET
It would take a bit of maneuvering by Leafs GM Lou Lamoriello to be able to fit Markov’s salary in. It would likely make it necessary for Toronto to find a home for the salary of veteran forward Eric Fehr ($2 Million) and one of either Martin Marincin ($1.25 Million) or Alexei Marchenko ($1.45 Million).

Moving Fehr might be a challenge unless Toronto were to add a draft pick in a trade, but Marincin or Marchenko could be dealt to a team like Colorado with critical depth issues on defense.

Markov would make a formidable top-four option for either for Morgan Rielly (who would have to shift over to the right side) or with the right-handed Nikita Zaitsev, his teammate on Team Russia from the World Cup of Hockey.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 26 @ 9:56 AM ET
You do know that just pulling something out of your ass doesn't make it true, right?
- Aetherial

We don't know for sure that a team starved for offense, like the sens, didn't reach out to Marleau. But we do know that if they had an owner willing to spend some coin, and not encumbered with many bad contracts, Marleau would have probably turned them down anyways.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 26 @ 9:58 AM ET
It would take a bit of maneuvering by Leafs GM Lou Lamoriello to be able to fit Markov’s salary in. It would likely make it necessary for Toronto to find a home for the salary of veteran forward Eric Fehr ($2 Million) and one of either Martin Marincin ($1.25 Million) or Alexei Marchenko ($1.45 Million).

Moving Fehr might be a challenge unless Toronto were to add a draft pick in a trade, but Marincin or Marchenko could be dealt to a team like Colorado with critical depth issues on defense.

Markov would make a formidable top-four option for either for Morgan Rielly (who would have to shift over to the right side) or with the right-handed Nikita Zaitsev, his teammate on Team Russia from the World Cup of Hockey.

- spatso

You have proven multiple times that you don't know anything about the Leafs' cap situation. Why do you continue?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:59 AM ET
We don't know for sure that a team starved for offense, like the sens, didn't reach out to Marleau. But we do know that if they had an owner willing to spend some coin, and not encumbered with many bad contracts, Marleau would have probably turned them down anyways.
- Feeling Glucky?


I wonder how long Boucher lasts in Ottawa.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:08 AM ET
You have proven multiple times that you don't know anything about the Leafs' cap situation. Why do you continue?
- Feeling Glucky?


Not bad! Those comments on Leaf cap come from the Leaf blog.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:12 AM ET
Just for the record I want it noted that I was very early in the calling of old geezer Markov to the Leafs. Too funny.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 26 @ 10:13 AM ET
What if he shows in pre-season that he is capable of being effective in the NHL. Don't you have to at least give him his 9 games?
- Aetherial


thing is, we're not talking about a recent pick that is not eligible for ahl.

we're talking about a 20 year old man who looked good skating with 17 year old kids.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 26 @ 10:16 AM ET
Just for the record I want it noted that I was very early in the calling of old geezer Markov to the Leafs. Too funny.
- spatso


and you think some guy speculating from his mom's basement is proof that you are correct.

but we do already know you have some pretty low standards.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:18 AM ET
It's true the Leafs have many more questions than the Sens... In fact, there really is only one question about the Sens worth asking this coming season: "How much will they regress- just miss the playoffs, or will they have a legit shot at #1 overall?"

I hope it's the former, but the latter seems possible, given their performance last season.

- Feeling Glucky?


You know how this pleases me.

Based on their performance last year? Pst, they went to ECF. Remember when I told you last year that knowledgable insiders were predicting the Sens would be the dark horse team in playoffs. Well, get ready, they will come out of the gates much stronger and harder than last year.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:20 AM ET
thing is, we're not talking about a recent pick that is not eligible for ahl.

we're talking about a 20 year old man who looked good skating with 17 year old kids.

- Tumbleweed


Weak.

WJC is essentially a tournament of 19 year olds.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:22 AM ET
“He wanted to go to a team that had a chance to win,” Dorion said Monday. “I know for a fact that a team offered him more money and he chose to go to (Ottawa) just for the reason that he felt it was a better fit and they have a better chance to win.”

-TSN

On Oduya signing with Ottawa. No reason to believe that the team he said "no" to was the Leafs. But, we know that Condon did say "no" to the Leafs. Leafs go forward with huge questions in nets and on the blueline.

- spatso


A backup and a 7th defensman for Ottawa..congrats on the huge wins
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:22 AM ET
and you think some guy speculating from his mom's basement is proof that you are correct.

but we do already know you have some pretty low standards.

- Tumbleweed


Sorry, I have no interest in Leaf bloggers. JUst pointing out source.

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