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TheCat29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 22 @ 5:14 PM ET
Blow this place up!

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 22 @ 7:52 PM ET
sens 4th liners > leafs 4th liners. this is how you build a winner. so much jealously.
- daeth


Partly, more important Sens are stronger in nets with a better starter and back up. And, obviously, the Sens are far stronger on the defensive backend.
TheCat29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 22 @ 8:02 PM ET
Partly, more important Sens are stronger in nets with a better starter and back up. And, obviously, the Sens are far stronger on the defensive backend.
- spatso


You have serious mental issues, seek help! This goes for everyone here except capebretonbruin and daeth .

twiztedmike
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 22 @ 8:07 PM ET
You have serious mental issues, seek help! This goes for everyone here except capebretonbruin and daeth .


- TheCat29

suckup
TheCat29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 22 @ 8:51 PM ET
suckup
- twiztedmike


My bad, and twiztedmike. Who like Daeth, and CBB troll these retards with ease.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 22 @ 9:02 PM ET
Pyatt was a great role player for the Sens last year, he was very strong in the playoffs. Important to know that Pyatt played for Boucher in Switzerland and Boucher asked for him. I thought it was a trivial signing. But in close one goal games Pyatt got lots of ice time in the third period.

Thompson is even more interesting. He played for Boucher (Tampa) and Boucher wanted him. Sens believe he will fill the job of 4th line centre to replace Chris Kelly. Boucher wanted Thompson for his 54% face off skill and his penalty killing abilities.

Boucher's goal is maintain the same defensive numbers (GA) and improve the offensive numbers (GF).

- spatso




Good luck with that.
twiztedmike
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 22 @ 9:29 PM ET
My bad, and twiztedmike. Who like Daeth, and CBB troll these retards with ease.
- TheCat29

TY

what I meant to say was you are a gentleman and scholar but it came out wrong
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 22 @ 10:03 PM ET
Pyatt was a great role player for the Sens last year, he was very strong in the playoffs. Important to know that Pyatt played for Boucher in Switzerland and Boucher asked for him. I thought it was a trivial signing. But in close one goal games Pyatt got lots of ice time in the third period.

Thompson is even more interesting. He played for Boucher (Tampa) and Boucher wanted him. Sens believe he will fill the job of 4th line centre to replace Chris Kelly. Boucher wanted Thompson for his 54% face off skill and his penalty killing abilities.

Boucher's goal is maintain the same defensive numbers (GA) and improve the offensive numbers (GF).

- spatso


marleau is very interesting. he was a great key player for the sharks. and rhe swedish signings were both key players dor their teams in sweden. liljegren was prijwcted to go at number 2, and is considered by many to be the best dman in the world not playing in the NHL.

Babcock's goal is to continue to improve the goals for, goals against, and shots against.

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 22 @ 10:12 PM ET


Good luck with that.

- GreatGigInTheSky

I think his goal should be to win all the games. That'd be my goal.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 22 @ 10:54 PM ET
marleau is very interesting. he was a great key player for the sharks. and rhe swedish signings were both key players dor their teams in sweden. liljegren was prijwcted to go at number 2, and is considered by many to be the best dman in the world not playing in the NHL.

Babcock's goal is to continue to improve the goals for, goals against, and shots against.

- prock

I find Moore very interesting. And Ron Hainsey. He's intriguing almost.
twiztedmike
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:00 PM ET
I find Moore very interesting. And Ron Hainsey. He's intriguing almost.
- walshyleafsfan

Hainsey (frank)ing sucks
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:52 PM ET
Hainsey (frank)ing sucks
- twiztedmike

He's interesting
twiztedmike
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 23 @ 12:24 AM ET
He's interesting
- walshyleafsfan

He sucks
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 23 @ 1:46 AM ET
He sucks
- twiztedmike

So does Nate Thompson. But he's another interesting character. Quite mysterious in fact
twiztedmike
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 23 @ 2:17 AM ET
So does Nate Thompson. But he's another interesting character. Quite mysterious in fact
- walshyleafsfan

Fascinating
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 23 @ 7:18 AM ET
Leafs are bringing in way too may old geezers.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 23 @ 7:57 AM ET
Leafs are bringing in way too may old geezers.
- spatso


They almost have as many as the Sens! But unlike the Sens they dont have any good young players!
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 23 @ 8:09 AM ET
They almost have as many as the Sens! But unlike the Sens they dont have any good young players!
- systemtool


the Leafs don't have any good young players???
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 23 @ 8:16 AM ET
the Leafs don't have any good young players???
- prock



compared to the Sens. hardly. they re just old geezers. maybe one or two young players that would have trouble cracking the Sens roster. Have you not seen tsns lists? Leafs are just too old now. Window closed.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 23 @ 8:29 AM ET
Fascinating
- twiztedmike

No. He's far from fascinating
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 23 @ 8:34 AM ET
compared to the Sens. hardly. they re just old geezers. maybe one or two young players that would have trouble cracking the Sens roster. Have you not seen tsns lists? Leafs are just too old now. Window closed.
- systemtool

Sens tried to trade Gaborik for Phaneuf but the Kings said (frank) no and laughed at them. Not a good summer so far for the Sens.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 23 @ 8:42 AM ET













walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 23 @ 8:44 AM ET



- D0PPELGANGER

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 23 @ 8:53 AM ET
Duh. Anybody who is older than 26 years of age was born before the Sens existed. Many are Leaf and Canadiens fans. Some like me have made a conscious decision to support the Sens even though I grew up a Leaf fan. But you will not find many Leaf fans among the under 25 crowd. The Sens made huge progress in expanding their footprint during the recent playoff run.

- spatso


https://www.google.ca/amp...tors-attendance-woes/amp/



The playoff run of the Ottawa Senators was infamous for its struggle to sell out games. Now it has come out that the Sens are among the teams whose attendance has dropped the most over 10 years.
The Ottawa Senators ranked as the team with the third biggest drop off in attendance over the last 10 years. Only dropping less than the Carolina Hurricanes and Colorado Avalanche this is certainly a cause for concern. The Sens’ attendance has dropped by 13.6% over the last 10 years. A team that sold out every game ten years ago is now on average only selling to 87.4% of capacity. What has happened in Ottawa to cause such a drop in fan interest?


Mediocrity
Part of the reason for the dropping of attendance can be attributed to the consistent mediocrity of a team that used to be so dominant. In the early and mid-2000s the Sens were one of the best teams in the league. However, since then the Sens have struggled the string together playoff appearances. Although this cannot be the only reason for decreasing attendance as the Sens had a fantastic playoff run this year but didn’t sell out every game.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 23 @ 8:55 AM ET
http://bleacherreport.com...ools-after-the-2017-draft



Existing Talent

The Toronto Maple Leafs had a jaw-dropping rookie crop in 2016-17, one of the best in the game's history. Just as amazing, the club has enough in the prospect pool to rank among the league's 10 best again this summer. Among the most impressive prospects bubbling under are Kasperi Kapanen, Jeremy Bracco and Yegor Korshkov.



2017 Draft

Toronto doesn't make this list without a strong draft in 2017 and a stroke of luck. One of the best prospects in the draft, Timothy Liljegren, saw his draft stock fall during the season. The Maple Leafs were able to get him at No. 17 overall and now have a perfect fit right defenseman to add to what is an exceptional young team.



Summary

Added to the group of young players who were rookies in 2016-17, the combination of Liljegren and the group of prospects drafted in 2015 and 2016 should transform the Maple Leafs to a power in the Eastern Conference. Toronto hasn't celebrated a Stanley Cup since 1967, but that drought may come to an end in the next several years.
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