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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 10 @ 10:22 AM ET
Here is the Core players I can come up with, 3f 3d (age by end start of 2018)

Hoffman 28
Turris 28
Stone 25
Karlsson 27
Phaneuf 32
Ceci 23
Avg = 27.16


Matthews 20
Marner 20
Nylander 21
Rielly 23
Zeitsev 26
Gardiner 27
Avg = 22.83

The Leafs have exactly 1 player over 30 signed past the 2018-19 (its 1 season of Marleau)

Sens have Dion and Ryan..who are huge crap contracts

- senstroll


Rookies such as Matthews nylander and marner won't make a difference, but chabot harpur and white will.

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:38 AM ET
Here is the Core players I can come up with, 3f 3d (age by end 2017 start of 2018)

Hoffman 28
Turris 28
Stone 25
Karlsson 27
Phaneuf 32
Ceci 23
Avg = 27.16


Matthews 20
Marner 20
Nylander 21
Rielly 23
Zeitsev 26
Gardiner 27
Avg = 22.83

The Leafs have exactly 1 player over 30 signed past the 2018-19 (its 1 season of Marleau)

Sens have Dion and Ryan..who are huge crap contracts

- senstroll


Just goofy. Let's pretend that Marleau was never signed.
And, let's pretend that if players are not signed for more than 2 years we don't need to count them.
And, if we are over the summer the cap, we will pretend it does not apply to us.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:45 AM ET
Phaneuf 32; Hainsey 37.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 10 @ 10:47 AM ET
Just goofy. Let's pretend that Marleau was never signed.
And, let's pretend that if players are not signed for more than 2 years we don't need to count them.
And, if we are over the summer the cap, we will pretend it does not apply to us.

- spatso



Marleau is mentioned in my post..so nobody is pretending anything. If he is your worst contract..thats great

if players are not signed for more than 2 years we don't need to count them....anymore than 2 years...yes thats correct

Summer cap...when you dont have to be under the cap...and you can exceed it..yes that cap
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:48 AM ET
Phaneuf 32; Hainsey 37.
- spatso


Now do their contracts. term and dollars.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 10 @ 10:49 AM ET
Phaneuf 32; Hainsey 37.
- spatso


cap hits

28 million ends in 2021
6 million ends in 2018

both 3/4 D

its not even close
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 10 @ 10:52 AM ET
Marleau is mentioned in my post..so nobody is pretending anything. If he is your worst contract..thats great

if players are not signed for more than 2 years we don't need to count them....anymore than 2 years...yes thats correct

Summer cap...when you dont have to be under the cap...and you can exceed it..yes that cap

- senstroll



If this moron reaches any more he's gonna fall over
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 10 @ 10:52 AM ET
Just goofy. Let's pretend that Marleau was never signed.
And, let's pretend that if players are not signed for more than 2 years we don't need to count them.
And, if we are over the summer the cap, we will pretend it does not apply to us.

- spatso



The leafs arent over the summer cap

twiztedmike
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:54 AM ET
The leafs arent over the summer cap
- burn

summer talk
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 10 @ 10:54 AM ET
Phaneuf 32; Hainsey 37.
- spatso



If age all that matter, you win I guess.....

Problem is skill and ability and cap hit and fit into the teams lineup also matter.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:54 AM ET
Now do their contracts. term and dollars.
- systemtool


You keep wanting to redefine an evaluation criteria like it has some special meaning.

Hockey is measure by scoreboard and results, standings and playoffs.

Sens went to ECF, deal with it.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 10 @ 10:55 AM ET
summer talk
- twiztedmike



Has it Reached its apex ?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:56 AM ET
If age all that matter, you win I guess.....

Problem is skill and ability and cap hit and fit into the teams lineup also matter.

- burn


Yes but, you don't want to count scoreboard, standings or playoff results.

You guys like the fiction section more than history or science.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 10 @ 10:59 AM ET
You keep wanting to redefine an evaluation criteria like it has some special meaning.

Hockey is measure by scoreboard and results, standings and playoffs.

Sens went to ECF, deal with it.

- spatso



Why do you keep blabbering on about age the age then?

Leafs signed a dman who played a top4 role for cup winner
Leafs signed a 27 goal forward

Results, scoreboard etc.....
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:59 AM ET
You keep wanting to redefine an evaluation criteria like it has some special meaning.

Hockey is measure by scoreboard and results, standings and playoffs.

Sens went to ECF, deal with it.

- spatso



wow. you're (frank)ing triggered and all angry trolling.


kind of sad our opinions mean so much to you.

Leafs > Sens


ive quoted your foolish posts many times. so do i need to remind you how often and easily I've made you look like a (frank)ing idiot using your own comments against you?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:59 AM ET
Yes but, you don't want to count scoreboard, standings or playoff results.

You guys like the fiction section more than history or science.

- spatso



It's summer. there are no standings or results.

you love to just make shít up.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:00 AM ET
Really? Weeks ago?

Perhaps you missed the fact the Leafs just signed 3 guys with combined age total in the range of 115 years. All them are older than anybody on Sens roster.

You guys are sucking air. It is no different this year than any other year.


- spatso



yup. scoreboard and results.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 10 @ 11:03 AM ET
Yes but, you don't want to count scoreboard, standings or playoff results.

You guys like the fiction section more than history or science.

- spatso



This sounds like a lot of fiction.

Ironic considering you talking about others trying to ignore (no one has) stuff all the while you posting nonfiction and trying to pass it off as fact.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:03 AM ET
yup. scoreboard and results.
- systemtool


You are still trying to suck and blow at same time.

In the end, it comes down to the actual hard result.

Sens won!

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 10 @ 11:05 AM ET
You are still trying to suck and blow at same time.

In the end, it comes down to the actual hard result.

Sens won!

- spatso



spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:06 AM ET
This sounds like a lot of fiction.

Ironic considering you talking about others trying to ignore (no one has) stuff all the while you posting nonfiction and trying to pass it off as fact.

- burn


So, you highlight scoreboard and standings indicating they are fiction....or, are you trying to suggest they just don't matter.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:14 AM ET
You are still trying to suck and blow at same time.

In the end, it comes down to the actual hard result.

Sens won!

- spatso



What did they win?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:21 AM ET
What did they win?
- systemtool


Two playoff rounds.
twiztedmike
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:22 AM ET
Has it Reached its apex ?
- burn

it has only just begun
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 10 @ 11:22 AM ET
Two playoff rounds.
- spatso




half way there..Congrats
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