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twiztedmike
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 5 @ 10:27 AM ET
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:30 AM ET
We'll see. Expect him to see action on Matthews line, unless you think Matthews isn't a first line centre. He scored 27 goals playing mostly on the third line of an offensively inept team last year.
- winsix


Matthews is an Elite talent. The Leafs have never had somebody like him.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:34 AM ET
matthews carried a 4th liner in hyman the whole year.

he'll be a big upgrade on hyman; for a year, maybe 2. seems like the obvious fit in the lineup.

- Tumbleweed


Very true. He's overpaid and he's old, but the guy can still shoot the puck. He'll be a decent fit.
twiztedmike
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 5 @ 10:36 AM ET
Matthews is an Elite talent. The Leafs have never had somebody like him.
- BINGO!

you're an elite talent. we've never had anybody like you.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 10:37 AM ET
Very true. He's overpaid and he's old, but the guy can still shoot the puck. He'll be a decent fit.
- BINGO!


good.

now trade us one of your good dmen for a not good forward.
twiztedmike
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 5 @ 10:37 AM ET
good.

now trade one of your good dmen for a not good forward.

- Tumbleweed

yessssssssssssssssss
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 5 @ 10:38 AM ET
Very true. He's overpaid and he's old, but the guy can still shoot the puck. He'll be a decent fit.
- BINGO!




I think production is only half the reason Marleau was brought in tbh. Leafs really lack quality vets the kids can look up to and respect as a leader.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:40 AM ET
good.

now trade us one of your good dmen for a not good forward.

- Tumbleweed


Nah.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:40 AM ET
I think production is only half the reason Marleau was brought in tbh. Leafs really lack quality vets the kids can look up to and respect as a leader.
- systemtool


Same reason Williams was brought back in CAR, yeah.
twiztedmike
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 5 @ 10:41 AM ET
Same reason Williams was brought back in CAR, yeah.
- BINGO!

Love Williams.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 10:46 AM ET
Marleau contract is too much and should only be 2 years.
the 3rd year is a a problem imo, but the next 2 it doesnt matter, Marner and Mathews are still on ELC. they have the extra cap space with the LTIR for Horton and Lupus

Sounds like a Babcock move, he wanted him on the team.

Hainsey is a slight upgrade over Hunwick and Moore is a 4th line upgrade over Smith, since Boyle was not in the cards.

a bunch of ok moves, I think it makes the leafs a little better over the next 1-2 seasons
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 5 @ 10:49 AM ET
Same reason Williams was brought back in CAR, yeah.
- BINGO!



Exactly.

Both teams have alot of cap and youth. They paid a premium to bring in guys who can finish, lead by example. They got the exact type of player they wanted/needed.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:53 AM ET
Exactly.

Both teams have alot of cap and youth. They paid a premium to bring in guys who can finish, lead by example. They got the exact type of player they wanted/needed.

- systemtool


of the 3300 players that have played since 1997, three have scored more goals than Patrick Marleau in that time.

Three.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 5 @ 10:54 AM ET
Marleau contract is too much and should only be 2 years.
the 3rd year is a a problem imo, but the next 2 it doesnt matter, Marner and Mathews are still on ELC. they have the extra cap space with the LTIR for Horton and Lupus

Sounds like a Babcock move, he wanted him on the team.

Hainsey is a slight upgrade over Hunwick and Moore is a 4th line upgrade over Smith, since Boyle was not in the cards.

a bunch of ok moves, I think it makes the leafs a little better over the next 1-2 seasons

- senstroll

I honestly can't see him playing that third season. Maybe I'll be wrong but this looks a lot like a two year/17 mil contract to me.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 10:59 AM ET
I honestly can't see him playing that third season. Maybe I'll be wrong but this looks a lot like a two year/17 mil contract to me.
- BetterCallSaul


who knows.. probably LTIR

He is very much declining, he might be propped up with top line minutes and a strong PP in Toronto so you wont see it as much.

They easily could have gotten similar production for a fraction of that..but I guess they really really value leadership and stuff
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:59 AM ET
I honestly can't see him playing that third season. Maybe I'll be wrong but this looks a lot like a two year/17 mil contract to me.
- BetterCallSaul


If he does, I don't think it'll be with the Leafs.

San Jose will be in full rebuild mode by then. May send him back to play out his last season.

He needs 3.5 years to catch Gordie Howe for most games played.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 11:01 AM ET
I honestly can't see him playing that third season. Maybe I'll be wrong but this looks a lot like a two year/17 mil contract to me.
- BetterCallSaul


jock itch?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 5 @ 11:02 AM ET
Marleau contract is too much and should only be 2 years.
the 3rd year is a a problem imo, but the next 2 it doesnt matter, Marner and Mathews are still on ELC. they have the extra cap space with the LTIR for Horton and Lupus

Sounds like a Babcock move, he wanted him on the team.

Hainsey is a slight upgrade over Hunwick and Moore is a 4th line upgrade over Smith, since Boyle was not in the cards.

a bunch of ok moves, I think it makes the leafs a little better over the next 1-2 seasons

- senstroll


Yeah pretty much exactly.

Cox seems to think the Leafs can't sign Matthews Marner and Nylander but it is nothing to do with Marleau. He just feels in a cap league you can't have 3 big salaries like that.

He might have a point but that would mean that the Leafs have too much good young talent.

.. I also think he is wrong on that point, but we'll see.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 5 @ 11:03 AM ET
who knows.. probably LTIR

He is very much declining, he might be propped up with top line minutes and a strong PP in Toronto so you wont see it as much.

They easily could have gotten similar production for a fraction of that..but I guess they really really value leadership and stuff

- senstroll

I honestly thought they needed a power play trigger man, and he should excel at that role with the kids. He probably won't offer what he could even a few years ago, but we all know that.

Marner-Matthews-Marleau
Nylander-Rielly.

Not bad.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 5 @ 11:03 AM ET
jock itch?
- Tumbleweed


Hossa's jock has already been stolen and put in Phaneuf's locker.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 5 @ 11:04 AM ET
jock itch?
- Tumbleweed

Does it smell?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 5 @ 11:04 AM ET
of the 3300 players that have played since 1997, three have scored more goals than Patrick Marleau in that time.

Three.

- BINGO!


Boyle is better
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Manny's Musical Instruments and Accessories, Inc. NYC, circa summer of 70
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 5 @ 11:06 AM ET
Apparently not as good as toronto's ......... as they've just signed the last piece of their Cup winning plan, the steal of the UFA season!

The leafs are now "All In" and are making their Cup run beginning this coming season, with the acquisition of Marleau, who capitulates past a number of the best rookies in the entire history of the NHL, to become one of the three best forwards on the leafs .............. according to one your trollonto faithful here in this thread.


The leafs are in "Win Now Mode" and must win the Cup in the next two seasons (before they need to re-sign Matthews" as their window will be closed after that.

Your post is laughable. Let me guess, your hero is Spatso. If you really want humor, you should be talking about the Sens off season. You should talk about overpaid guys with your top paid player being 25 point, 13 goal piece of sh!t Bobby Ryan on your team. You get to have him for 5 more years at $7 million, and guess what he is a first ballot member of the Hall of Shame. He should be ashamed every time he picks up a paycheck. And that move where your dufas of a GM tried desperately to unload Phaneuf - how did that work out? And the cherry on top was longtime Sens Captain Alfie - giving the Sens the big adious. Now let's talk about Matheau - first ballot hall of famer, will score plenty with Matthews.

Have a nice day



Marleau signing signifies Leafs in win-now mode


For those who take a glass-half-empty view of the move, there’s this: Because Marleau is a player in the age 35-plus category, the website capfriendly.com states that the Leafs would get no cap relief in the event they opt to buy out Marleau, who will be 40 when the deal expires.

http://www.torontosun.com...ies-leafs-in-win-now-mode







Salary cap pushes Leafs into win-now mode:



Marleau, the third free agent 36 years of age or older to join the club on the weekend, was sought after by Lou Lamoriello because the Leafs GM understands that Nashville demonstrated just how close to winning many other teams are, and because he knows this window opened by Matthews, Nylander and Marner may shut much more quickly than most believe.

https://www.thestar.com/s...nto-win-now-mode-cox.html

- D0PPELGANGER

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 11:08 AM ET
Does it smell?
- BetterCallSaul


idk. i'll check.



spatso, does my jock itch smell?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 11:08 AM ET
Yeah pretty much exactly.

Cox seems to think the Leafs can't sign Matthews Marner and Nylander but it is nothing to do with Marleau. He just feels in a cap league you can't have 3 big salaries like that.

He might have a point but that would mean that the Leafs have too much good young talent.

.. I also thing he is wrong on that point, but we'll see.

- Aetherial


At this point I have no doubt all 3 get signed and things work out fine
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