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BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:43 AM ET
Explain it all you want. Every hockey writer is saying this was dumbest move of UFA signings. I actually think Radulov by Dallas was worse. But, whatever, you guys have to live with it.
- spatso

Who, how and why?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 4 @ 8:04 AM ET
Riding the bench?


Do you routinely make comments about things you don't know?

Of course not, why would they think they're similar when their stats are similar (with one playing in a better league) and similar when on the same team. But yeah they're not close

- burn

He routinely makes comments on a hockey board, so, yes.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 4 @ 8:05 AM ET
Who, how and why?
- BetterCallSaul

TSN!
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:05 AM ET
Leafs have dumped Clarkson and Phaneuf on teams with no chance of competing for the cup, and without retaining salary. They have a history of finding suckers to take on cap problems when they arise.
- Feeling Glucky?


In more theoretical models (eg Bernard Lonergan on Insight) denial is best understood as bias. How we see things can be shaped by how we are predisposed to want see.

Phaneuf had an outstanding regular season and playoff as was mentioned often by the broadcast crew, by Coaches Corner and all other media. The Senators' great year was directly influenced by the strong performance of Dion Phaneuf.

Your continued harping on Phaneuf has something to do with your inability to accept that the Sens got a great year from a player that cratered while playing for the Leafs.

We are not into Larry Murphy territory yet...but it is important to note that Murphy just seemed to get better and better.

We have seen people write that last year was Phaneuf's best year since his Calgary days. He did for Ottawa what he was not able to do for the Leafs. Sorry, but other than Leaf fans and Leaf media Phaneuf played really well and was great value to the Sens making their ECF run.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:08 AM ET
Riding the bench?


Do you routinely make comments about things you don't know?

Of course not, why would they think they're similar when their stats are similar (with one playing in a better league) and similar when on the same team. But yeah they're not close

- burn


Did Dermott make any top prospect list? Did any Leaf make the TSN top prospect list? Right!
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 4 @ 8:17 AM ET
Did Dermott make any top prospect list? Did any Leaf make the TSN top prospect list? Right!
- spatso

Go back to last summer, when the Leafs had an army of highly rated prospects. You said that meant nothing because they wouldn't have an impact. A record breaking season later you're saying Ottawa's youth is stringer than Toronto's and hitching your hopes to a 20 year old defenceman from the Q?

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 4 @ 8:18 AM ET
In more theoretical models (eg Bernard Lonergan on Insight) denial is best understood as bias. How we see things can be shaped by how we are predisposed to want see.

Phaneuf had an outstanding regular season and playoff as was mentioned often by the broadcast crew, by Coaches Corner and all other media. The Senators' great year was directly influenced by the strong performance of Dion Phaneuf.

Your continued harping on Phaneuf has something to do with your inability to accept that the Sens got a great year from a player that cratered while playing for the Leafs.

We are not into Larry Murphy territory yet...but it is important to note that Murphy just seemed to get better and better.

We have seen people write that last year was Phaneuf's best year since his Calgary days. He did for Ottawa what he was not able to do for the Leafs. Sorry, but other than Leaf fans and Leaf media Phaneuf played really well and was great value to the Sens making their ECF run.

- spatso


Very entertaining, but Phaneuf is regressing, despite your awful talent analysis.

https://public.tableau.co...SH6PPD?:display_count=yes

At this point in his career, Phaneuf is only marginally more effective offensively - and far inferior defensively - than Hainsey. And his yearly decline is far more evident than Hainsey's, despite the age gap.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:20 AM ET
Who, how and why?
- BetterCallSaul


Kevin Paul Dupont
@GlobeKPD

Says he can't decide whether the Dallas signing of Radulov is dumber than the Leaf signing of Marleau.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 4 @ 8:20 AM ET
Kevin Paul Dupont
@GlobeKPD

Says he can't decide whether the Dallas signing of Radulov is dumber than the Leaf signing of Marleau.

- spatso

Well now I'm questioning it.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 4 @ 8:23 AM ET
Kevin Paul Dupont
@GlobeKPD

Says he can't decide whether the Dallas signing of Radulov is dumber than the Leaf signing of Marleau.

- spatso

EVERYONE!
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:28 AM ET
Go back to last summer, when the Leafs had an army of highly rated prospects. You said that meant nothing because they wouldn't have an impact. A record breaking season later you're saying Ottawa's youth is stringer than Toronto's and hitching your hopes to a 20 year old defenceman from the Q?


- BetterCallSaul


A 20 year old defensman that played over 40 minutes in the WJC game against US, named MVP of the tournament. Named top Dman in the Q even though he only played 36 games.

Will be stepping into a lineup that already features the best Dman on the planet.

Oh! And let's not forget he will be joined on the Sens roster by Colin White who had a great WJC for the gold medal winning US team.

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:35 AM ET
Very entertaining, but Phaneuf is regressing, despite your awful talent analysis.

https://public.tableau.co...SH6PPD?:display_count=yes

At this point in his career, Phaneuf is only marginally more effective offensively - and far inferior defensively - than Hainsey. And his yearly decline is far more evident than Hainsey's, despite the age gap.

- Feeling Glucky?


Yes, yes, we remember your season long predictions that the Sens would regress.

Nobody on these boards has been more consistently wrong than Leaf fans praying for a Sens collapse.

The Sens are already a very good team. Next year they are going to be younger, bigger and faster with the probable additions of Chabot, Harpur, White and Paul.

Sens had great season and great playoff. Accept it. It will cause you less pain!
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 4 @ 8:38 AM ET
A 20 year old defensman that played over 40 minutes in the WJC game against US, named MVP of the tournament. Named top Dman in the Q even though he only played 36 games.

Will be stepping into a lineup that already features the best Dman on the planet.

Oh! And let's not forget he will be joined on the Sens roster by Colin White who had a great WJC for the gold medal winning US team.

- spatso

We've seen plenty of players excel at the Juniors and struggle in the NHL. I've just been trying to get you to temper your expectations. Only looking out for you Spats.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:38 AM ET
It would be a huge mistake for the Leafs to sign Markov. I think he is older than Marleau and has a history of knee problems.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 4 @ 8:39 AM ET
Yes, yes, we remember your season long predictions that the Sens would regress.

Nobody on these boards has been more consistently wrong than Leaf fans praying for a Sens collapse.

The Sens are already a very good team. Next year they are going to be younger, bigger and faster with the probable additions of Chabot, Harpur, White and Paul.

Sens had great season and great playoff. Accept it. It will cause you less pain!

- spatso

You are. You're consistently that wrong.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:44 AM ET
We've seen plenty of players excel at the Juniors and struggle in the NHL. I've just been trying to get you to temper your expectations. Only looking out for you Spats.
- BetterCallSaul


Last week Dorion said about Chabot that he thought he could have a similar first year impact as Warensky in his rookie season. That would mean first pairing and power play time. So, it is not just me hyping the arrival of Chabot.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:46 AM ET
Am I the only one that thinks the Leafs signing Markov would be a huge error?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:50 AM ET
Am I the only one that thinks the Leafs signing Markov would be a huge error?
- spatso


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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 4 @ 9:00 AM ET
Did Dermott make any top prospect list? Did any Leaf make the TSN top prospect list? Right!
- spatso



IN fact he did, someone posted it just the other day. I don't expect you to know though as it pertains to hockey and we all know your track record


If he's not one a list he's riding the pine? Button is a clueless moron, he has a history of ineptitude. Look back at previous lists, see if you see Conor brown on his lists..... just some 21 yr old rookie who scored 20goals this year. But he didn't just come out of nowhere, he's been on the radar for sometime now for people who know hockey
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 4 @ 9:04 AM ET
Last week Dorion said about Chabot that he thought he could have a similar first year impact as Warensky in his rookie season. That would mean first pairing and power play time. So, it is not just me hyping the arrival of Chabot.
- spatso



Gm hype, what could go wrong
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 4 @ 9:04 AM ET
Am I the only one that thinks the Leafs signing Markov would be a huge error?
- spatso



Where is this coming from?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 4 @ 9:06 AM ET
Yes, yes, we remember your season long predictions that the Sens would regress.

Nobody on these boards has been more consistently wrong than Leaf fans praying for a Sens collapse.

The Sens are already a very good team. Next year they are going to be younger, bigger and faster with the probable additions of Chabot, Harpur, White and Paul.

Sens had great season and great playoff. Accept it. It will cause you less pain!

- spatso



I don't know why you seem insistent on discussing one b level prospect when the Leafs had the best rookie class in the history off the NHL, and are still ranked as a better prospect group than the turds. the Leafs STILL have the best defenseman prospect in the world, yet to play a game. I think this needs discussing.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 4 @ 9:10 AM ET
I don't know why you seem insistent on discussing one b level prospect when the Leafs had the best rookie class in the history off the NHL, and are still ranked as a better prospect group than the turds. the Leafs STILL have the best defenseman prospect in the world, yet to play a game. I think this needs discussing.
- prock


Only a Leaf fan would elevate a guy that had been downgraded by every other team. Very seldom does a player that drops significantly in the draft ever come back and prove the scouts wrong.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 4 @ 9:14 AM ET
Only a Leaf fan would elevate a guy that had been downgraded by every other team. Very seldom does a player that drops significantly in the draft ever come back and prove the scouts wrong.
- spatso



Fowler? Chyckrun?

He dropped because he wasn't playing, no one saw him enough. In his last tournament outin g of the year he was terrific.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 4 @ 9:17 AM ET
Fowler? Chyckrun?

He dropped because he wasn't playing, no one saw him enough. In his last tournament outin g of the year he was terrific.

- burn


No I think he talking about the mono kid that fell off the charts. I think he is reading the old charts and believing scouts can't figure that stuff out.
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