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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 3 @ 6:33 PM ET
Such irony Sens take Stanley cup winners to ECF final and double overtime. They will add high level prospects for next year. The Sens will be very strong next season.

I told you this last year and you embarrassed yourself by not believing me.

So, get ready.

- spatso

Pretty sure you spent last offseason railing about how prospects wouldn't make a huge difference and about how prospect rankings were just "loser lists".

But yea, I embarrassed myself.

Ottawa will not be returning to the playoffs this year, unless they make some drastic moves. A couple of b-level prospects won't be the same as the Leafs icing one of the best rookie groups the NHL has ever seen.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 3 @ 6:34 PM ET
Like when he predicted Duchene.

Unfortunately, that became Stalberg, Wingels and Burrows.

- walshyleafsfan


Those were great playoff signings. Sens did not sign a 38 year old for $18m. Hard to believe Leafs going down that road again. Six years older than Phaneuf. Insanity.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 6:36 PM ET
Such irony Sens take Stanley cup winners to ECF final and double overtime. They will add high level prospects for next year. The Sens will be very strong next season.

I told you this last year and you embarrassed yourself by not believing me.

So, get ready.

- spatso



Wait what?

You said last year that Matthews nylander marner aren't good enough to make an impact, that the leafs are worse than last year when they finished last.

But somehow now the sens have high level prospects they're adding that will make them better.....weird how last year the leafs high end elite prospects they added weren't going to do anything and now sens b level prospects are going to make a difference.

Sounds like some high level summer talk.

Only person here that should be embarassed is you..... Chabot drafted 2015 born Jan 1997, Dermott a year older at dec 1996 and a a different draft class in 2015. Duh.

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 3 @ 6:38 PM ET
Pretty sure you spent last offseason railing about how prospects wouldn't make a huge difference and about how prospect rankings were just "loser lists".

But yea, I embarrassed myself.

Ottawa will not be returning to the playoffs this year, unless they make some drastic moves. A couple of b-level prospects won't be the same as the Leafs icing one of the best rookie groups the NHL has ever seen.

- Feeling Glucky?


Such a pile of hooey. McDavid and Draisaitl
Were pretty good.....how many years ago? Oh just last year.
Hey guys, get a life.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 3 @ 6:40 PM ET
Such a pile of hooey. McDavid and Draisaitl
Were pretty good.....how many years ago? Oh just last year.
Hey guys, get a life.

- spatso

Do you know what a rookie is?

Honestly, how can you and dopps just be wrong about so much, all the time?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 3 @ 6:57 PM ET
Do you know what a rookie is?

Honestly, how can you and dopps just be wrong about so much, all the time?

- Feeling Glucky?



Oops, sorry thought Draisaitl was sent down before 25 games in previous year.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 3 @ 7:00 PM ET
Oops, sorry thought Draisaitl was sent down before 25 games in previous year.
- spatso

Such a pile of hooey!
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 3 @ 7:14 PM ET
Oops, sorry thought Draisaitl was sent down before 25 games in previous year.
- spatso

Do you post here because you like the abuse?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:19 PM ET
Such a pile of hooey. McDavid and Draisaitl
Were pretty good.....how many years ago? Oh just last year.
Hey guys, get a life.

- spatso



What?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 3 @ 7:22 PM ET
Leafs cap is fine. They have robidas and lupul off after this year, they get relief from buyouts after 2years.

Marleau contract is easily trade able in the third year, to a team looking to not pay actual salary but have the cap hit.

They have one of the best capologist in the business working for them.

They're fine.

- burn




Therefore, using your "leaf logic" Dion's contract is even better, perhaps even great.


Thanks for that.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:22 PM ET
Do you know what a rookie is?

Honestly, how can you and dopps just be wrong about so much, all the time?

- Feeling Glucky?



Should we be surprised? This moron arguing with me about dermott, said he was a year older and a different draft year than chabot even though they were born a little over a month apart and in the same draft year.

This idiot has no clue about anything regarding hockey. Totally clueless.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:28 PM ET
Therefore, using your "leaf logic" Dion's contract is even better, perhaps even great.


Thanks for that.

- D0PPELGANGER



How is that using my logic? You should work on using basic logic before trying to force feed someone else's logic.

Dion contract so good they tried to dump him repeatedly this summer.

Leafs out from under that boat anchor, enjoy that for several more years.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 3 @ 7:29 PM ET
Those were great playoff signings. Sens did not sign a 38 year old for $18m. Hard to believe Leafs going down that road again. Six years older than Phaneuf. Insanity.
- spatso

When Marleau is gone Phaneuf and his salary will still be with the Sens


Insanity. And that Bobby Ryan contract? That will be there too. Insanity.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 3 @ 7:32 PM ET
You know when the Leafs win a cup and Ottawa is still sitting at 0, he'll be first in line for the parade, pretending he was a fan all along, try desperately to convince himself it's true.
- Feeling Glucky?



Need to win that cup in the next two seasons, because when Matthews needs a new contract, they'll have to break up the team to pay him.

When are they going to find the Cap space to bring in 2 or 3 quality D Men, in the next two seasons, as the Marleau cap hit is preventing that from happening???? Are they planning on the Cap going 10 Million for next season?

Just a quick look at the leafs cap for next season, they're already over the cap by $1.68 Million, and have yet to sign a couple of RFAs.

So it looks like the leafs "window" is in the process of closing, unless LL can pull a rabbit out of his ass.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 3 @ 7:33 PM ET
Need to win that cup in the next two seasons, because when Matthews needs a new contract, they'll have to break up the team to pay him.

When are they going to find the Cap space to bring in 2 or 3 quality D Men, in the next two seasons, as the Marleau cap hit is preventing that from happening???? Are they planning on the Cap going 10 Million for next season?

Just a quick look at the leafs cap for next season, they're already over the cap by $1.68 Million, and have yet to sign a couple of RFAs.

So it looks like the leafs "window" is in the process of closing, unless LL can pull a rabbit out of his ass.

- D0PPELGANGER




burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:34 PM ET
Need to win that cup in the next two seasons, because when Matthews needs a new contract, they'll have to break up the team to pay him.

When are they going to find the Cap space to bring in 2 or 3 quality D Men, in the next two seasons, as the Marleau cap hit is preventing that from happening???? Are they planning on the Cap going 10 Million for next season?

Just a quick look at the leafs cap for next season, they're already over the cap by $1.68 Million, and have yet to sign a couple of RFAs.

So it looks like the leafs "window" is in the process of closing, unless LL can pull a rabbit out of his ass.

- D0PPELGANGER



Right.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 3 @ 7:36 PM ET
How is that using my logic? You should work on using basic logic before trying to force feed someone else's logic.

Dion contract so good they tried to dump him repeatedly this summer.

Leafs out from under that boat anchor, enjoy that for several more years.

- burn


They're not out from under the Marleau anchor.......... an anchor that cannot be taken off the books for three seasons.

No one is going to trade for him, as you suggested, when he's 40 freaking years old ............. besides, he has a COMPLETE NMC in his contract.

Marleau's anchor of a contract makes Dion's look like a Helium filled balloon!.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 3 @ 7:39 PM ET
Right.
- burn


This is brilliant poop.

"You guys are gonna be so good and have so many good players that youre gonna suck!"

And the hilarious...

"HAHA you have an expensive player for 3 years so you cant laugh at is for having bobby ryan who are more expensive and around longer...."
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 3 @ 7:39 PM ET

- systemtool


What great insight ..... your level of knowledge astounds us all ............ you add STA to the conversation ............. your next insightful comment will be your first.



Now come back at me with an insult, or even better, a "summer talk" ......... because that's the limit of your contributions here, over the last few pages............. and all you're capable of.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 3 @ 7:40 PM ET
What great insight ..... your level of knowledge astounds us all ............ you add STA to the conversation ............. your next insightful comment will be your first.



Now come back at me with an insult, or even better, a "summer talk" ......... because that's the limit of your contributions here, over the last few pages............. and all you're capable of.

- D0PPELGANGER



You made yourself look far dumber than I could have....or cared too.

Rattled d0opps....youre such an easy trigger.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 3 @ 7:41 PM ET
Need to win that cup in the next two seasons, because when Matthews needs a new contract, they'll have to break up the team to pay him.

When are they going to find the Cap space to bring in 2 or 3 quality D Men, in the next two seasons, as the Marleau cap hit is preventing that from happening???? Are they planning on the Cap going 10 Million for next season?

Just a quick look at the leafs cap for next season, they're already over the cap by $1.68 Million, and have yet to sign a couple of RFAs.

So it looks like the leafs "window" is in the process of closing, unless LL can pull a rabbit out of his ass.

- D0PPELGANGER

Let me walk you through this. Marleau is going to play for two seasons, and personally I think he'll fit in well. He'll retire the summer before the last season of his contract begins, unless you truly believe he is going to play for 1 mil over the last season. His contract will then be traded to a bottom feeding cap floor team like Arizona or Ottawa or Vegas. Teams that will benefit from a high cap hit with zero payout.

And if he doesn't retire, then the Leafs don't resign Bozak or JVR and slide in players like Kapanen and Bracco for less money and ride out the last season of his 6 mil cap hit.

Need me to break that down even further?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:41 PM ET
They're not out from under the Marleau anchor.......... an anchor that cannot be taken off the books for three seasons.

No one is going to trade for him, as you suggested, when he's 40 freaking years old ............. besides, he has a COMPLETE NMC in his contract.

Marleau's anchor of a contract makes Dion's look like a Helium filled balloon!.

- D0PPELGANGER



Because?


Yeah ok. Good players > not good players.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 7:43 PM ET
Let me walk you through this. Marleau is going to play for two seasons, and personally I think he'll fit in well. He'll retire the summer before the last season of his contract begins, unless you truly believe he is going to play for 1 mil over the last season. His contract will then be traded to a bottom feeding cap floor team like Arizona or Ottawa or Vegas. Teams that will benefit from a high cap hit with zero payout.

And if he doesn't retire, then the Leafs don't resign Bozak or JVR and slide in players like Kapanen and Bracco for less money and ride out the last season of his 6 mil cap hit.

Need me to break that down even further?

- BetterCallSaul


I imagine he stil won't get it.

The helium must be getting to him
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 3 @ 7:43 PM ET
This is brilliant poop.

"You guys are gonna be so good and have so many good players that youre gonna suck!"

And the hilarious...

"HAHA you have an expensive player for 3 years so you cant laugh at is for having bobby ryan who are more expensive and around longer...."

- systemtool




Hey, dough head, was Bobby Ryan over 35 when he signed is contract?

Inform yourself as to the difference, and maybe you'll stop looking like an empty-headed fool ............ or perhaps you are one.


do some reading before you dig your stupidity hole any deeper


http://www.colliganhockey...l-cba-35-older-contracts/


https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/wiki/contracts
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 3 @ 7:44 PM ET
You made yourself look far dumber than I could have....or cared too.

Rattled d0opps....youre such an easy trigger.

- systemtool



and there's the proof
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